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Jan 2, 2021 15:02:37   #
solarkin
 
Well ,2021 ,as we count the years has arrived .
Can we assume responsibility for bringing the future we wish to see arrive ,and become our present ?
I consider ,what lies in the minds of men , but find myself puzzled ,as to what it is each of us really needs and desires.
This Earth ,our Terra Firma can provide for every one of us .
Is it so foolish to believe the paradise we seek is within our grasp.
It would seem to me ,that the future belongs to those who wish to create it.
Unlock yourself from the thoughts you are trained to believe .
Believe in yourself ,and realize that change is possible

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Jan 2, 2021 21:09:45   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
2021 A.D. is indeed upon us, and to deny the spiritual reality that controls it is an exercise in futility.

"Everything is indeed permitted if God does not exist, and man is in consequence forlorn, for he cannot find anything to depend upon either within or outside himself. He discovers forthwith, that he is without excuse." (Jean-Paul Sartre 1946)

Before there can be any truth whatever, there must be an absolute truth, and there is such a truth which is simple, easily attained and within the reach of everybody; it consists in belief in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, found only through God's historically accurate written revelation to mankind: the Bible.

We may individually and collectively claim to assume responsibility for anything or everything - for whatever we desire, however...

Proverbs 25:28
"He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls."

There is, quite often, a great disparity between what each of us "needs" within our immediate future, and what each of us desires and therefore "claims."

Romans 8:6
"For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace,"

This physical earth, the terra firma created by God, can provide nothing unless it is His sacred will that it do so, for God controls His creation, the weather, - the oceans, the sun, the moon, and the planets.

Isaiah 45:7
"The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity;
I am the Lord who does all these."

On the sixth day of creation, after God created terrestrial (Earth-based) animal life, Genesis 1:26 says: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

Satan now dominates the world’s man-made political, religious, social, economic, and educational systems. Hence, the Bible talks about “this present evil world” (Galatians 1:4). Satan is called “the god [or ruler] of this world” (2 Corinthians 4:4). The Bible says in 1 John 5:19, "We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one." Ephesians 2:2 speaks of the evil “course of this world.”

Thus God gave man dominion over the earth; man willfully became controlled by Satan and sin, and through fallen man, Satan gained power over this earth's worldly man-made systems.

Anyone who fails to apprehend the truth of this today, needs to cease all navel gazing, i.e., meditating on whatever unknown is out there, and seriously and soberly study both this world in which we are encased, and the eternal Word of our Creator God who loves us with an all encompassing, undying love.



solarkin wrote:
Well ,2021 ,as we count the years has arrived .
Can we assume responsibility for bringing the future we wish to see arrive ,and become our present ?
I consider ,what lies in the minds of men , but find myself puzzled ,as to what it is each of us really needs and desires.
This Earth ,our Terra Firma can provide for every one of us .
Is it so foolish to believe the paradise we seek is within our grasp.
It would seem to me ,that the future belongs to those who wish to create it.
Unlock yourself from the thoughts you are trained to believe .
Believe in yourself ,and realize that change is possible
Well ,2021 ,as we count the years has arrived . br... (show quote)

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Jan 3, 2021 19:13:54   #
solarkin
 
Zemirah wrote:
2021 A.D. is indeed upon us, and to deny the spiritual reality that controls it is an exercise in futility.

"Everything is indeed permitted if God does not exist, and man is in consequence forlorn, for he cannot find anything to depend upon either within or outside himself. He discovers forthwith, that he is without excuse." (Jean-Paul Sartre 1946)

Before there can be any truth whatever, there must be an absolute truth, and there is such a truth which is simple, easily attained and within the reach of everybody; it consists in belief in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, found only through God's historically accurate written revelation to mankind: the Bible.

We may individually and collectively claim to assume responsibility for anything or everything - for whatever we desire, however...

Proverbs 25:28
"He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls."

There is, quite often, a great disparity between what each of us "needs" within our immediate future, and what each of us desires and therefore "claims."

Romans 8:6
"For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace,"

This physical earth, the terra firma created by God, can provide nothing unless it is His sacred will that it do so, for God controls His creation, the weather, - the oceans, the sun, the moon, and the planets.

Isaiah 45:7
"The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity;
I am the Lord who does all these."

On the sixth day of creation, after God created terrestrial (Earth-based) animal life, Genesis 1:26 says: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

Satan now dominates the world’s man-made political, religious, social, economic, and educational systems. Hence, the Bible talks about “this present evil world” (Galatians 1:4). Satan is called “the god [or ruler] of this world” (2 Corinthians 4:4). The Bible says in 1 John 5:19, "We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one." Ephesians 2:2 speaks of the evil “course of this world.”

Thus God gave man dominion over the earth; man willfully became controlled by Satan and sin, and through fallen man, Satan gained power over this earth's worldly man-made systems.

Anyone who fails to apprehend the truth of this today, needs to cease all navel gazing, i.e., meditating on whatever unknown is out there, and seriously and soberly study both this world in which we are encased, and the eternal Word of our Creator God who loves us with an all encompassing, undying love.
2021 A.D. is indeed upon us, and to deny the spiri... (show quote)


I deeply appreciate the reply .
It does however satisfy only the spiritual realm.
Yes we are creatures of spirit ,but handing over our destiny has led us to where we are now . Satan only rules ,because we allow it . Men of action bring change ,Quoting scripture speaks volumes ,but changes nothing

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Jan 4, 2021 06:25:36   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
- and how did Jesus Christ battle Satan?"

According to the 4th chapter of Matthew, three times, Jesus said, "It is written," and then Satan departed.

Speaking through the prophet Isaiah, the Lord who created heaven and earth wholeheartedly disagrees with you when you say "Quoting Scripture changes nothing:"

Isaiah 55:10-11:

“For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven,
and return not thither but water the earth,
making it bring forth and sprout,
giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater,

so shall my word be that goes forth from my mouth;
it shall not return to me empty,
but it shall accomplish that which I purpose,
and prosper in the thing for which I sent it."

Without men who were moved by faith in the Word of God, this nation would not exist.

Without men and women who were so inspired by the Word of God, their most burning desire was the freedom to worship as they believed God had instructed them to worship Him, they would never have departed on a long journey into an unknown, unsettled land.

If godless men in the U.S. Supreme Court had not chosen to throw the knowledge of and prayer to Almighty God from the nation's schoolrooms on June 18, 1963, a far greater percentage of our citizenry, would know and honor God with reverential awe; they would have become courteous, self disciplined and responsible citizens, and they would respect, honor and obey the nation's laws.

Because of the Supreme Court's decision in 1962 and 1963, prayer in assemblies was banned in all American public schools, leading the way to banning the Holy Bible, as well.

Our national legal holocaust is now 61,628,584 of our most precious gift of the unborn (that's sixty one million, six hundred twenty eight thousand, five hundred eighty four babies), slaughtered in voluntary, virtually unlimited abortions since Roe-vs-Wade, in 1973, was made the law of our land by the men of the Supreme Court, and the nation's population has allowed that barbaric law to stand for forty eight years.

The blood of those babies cries out to God from the sewer pipes into which they were disposed.

“We have not government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” —John Adams (1735-1826). 2nd U.S. President

“It is impossible to enslave mentally or socially a Bible-reading people.
The principles of the Bible are the groundwork of human freedom.” —Horace Greeley

It is our own lawless youths who ravaged, looted and burnt our major cities this summer.

We are born flesh and spirit. Without the motivation of our spirit attuned to God, through Jesus Christ, we are a brutish, soulless lot.

With a population that is no longer moved by the Word of God this nation will not stand.

It is only the hearing of the Word of God that changes everything.


solarkin wrote:
I deeply appreciate the reply .
It does however satisfy only the spiritual realm.
Yes we are creatures of spirit ,but handing over our destiny has led us to where we are now . Satan only rules ,because we allow it . Men of action bring change ,Quoting scripture speaks volumes ,but changes nothing

Reply
Jan 4, 2021 09:12:44   #
solarkin
 
Zemirah wrote:
- and how did Jesus Christ battle Satan?"

According to the 4th chapter of Matthew, three times, Jesus said, "It is written," and then Satan departed.

Speaking through the prophet Isaiah, the Lord who created heaven and earth wholeheartedly disagrees with you when you say "Quoting Scripture changes nothing:"

Isaiah 55:10-11:

“For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven,
and return not thither but water the earth,
making it bring forth and sprout,
giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater,

so shall my word be that goes forth from my mouth;
it shall not return to me empty,
but it shall accomplish that which I purpose,
and prosper in the thing for which I sent it."

Without men who were moved by faith in the Word of God, this nation would not exist.

Without men and women who were so inspired by the Word of God, their most burning desire was the freedom to worship as they believed God had instructed them to worship Him, they would never have departed on a long journey into an unknown, unsettled land.

If godless men in the U.S. Supreme Court had not chosen to throw the knowledge of and prayer to Almighty God from the nation's schoolrooms on June 18, 1963, a far greater percentage of our citizenry, would know and honor God with reverential awe; they would have become courteous, self disciplined and responsible citizens, and they would respect, honor and obey the nation's laws.

Because of the Supreme Court's decision in 1962 and 1963, prayer in assemblies was banned in all American public schools, leading the way to banning the Holy Bible, as well.

Our national legal holocaust is now 61,628,584 of our most precious gift of the unborn (that's sixty one million, six hundred twenty eight thousand, five hundred eighty four babies), slaughtered in voluntary, virtually unlimited abortions since Roe-vs-Wade, in 1973, was made the law of our land by the men of the Supreme Court, and the nation's population has allowed that barbaric law to stand for forty eight years.

The blood of those babies cries out to God from the sewer pipes into which they were disposed.

“We have not government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” —John Adams (1735-1826). 2nd U.S. President

“It is impossible to enslave mentally or socially a Bible-reading people.
The principles of the Bible are the groundwork of human freedom.” —Horace Greeley

It is our own lawless youths who ravaged, looted and burnt our major cities this summer.

We are born flesh and spirit. Without the motivation of our spirit attuned to God, through Jesus Christ, we are a brutish, soulless lot.

With a population that is no longer moved by the Word of God this nation will not stand.

It is only the hearing of the Word of God that changes everything.
- and how did Jesus Christ battle Satan?" br ... (show quote)



On this ,you are entirely correct.
I cannot dispute anything you have stated.
You know ,it isn't going to happen ,don't you
The masses are not going to turn to God .All over this Earth has been rejected .
Our future still. is in our hands ,free will ,still is ours .Men must speak ,and lead in a realistic and realistic manner to affect the change needed . Actions ,not quotes .

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Jan 5, 2021 01:51:03   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Solarkin, with all due respect.

IMHO, & within my framework of "reality," your thesis statement lacks reality.

Slightly over 2,000 years ago, Jesus the Christ made it very clear that the masses would never follow Him, and that His was a "little flock."

Matthew 7:13-14:
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it."

Luke 12:32 [Jesus said] "Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom."

IMHO, to effect "realistic" change in our nation today, requires believing Christians acting through the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit of God, after being assured through His Word (think Bereans) that their actions are according to His will.

Every Christian has been sealed by the Holy Spirit at the moment they believed, - and further assured by Jesus, He who has been given all power on heaven and earth, that this same indwelling Holy Spirit will never leave us during our lifetime.

What "change" do you seek?

How is it necessary or even possible to deny or ignore the history of that spiritual reality of divine knowledge and power, without which our nation would not exist; - and seek instead some superior, or more desirable, i.e., "greater" reality to correct our nation's spiraling downward path, relying only on whatever secular/material/physical knowledge, strength and weapons one may muster, and expect to achieve a more desirable result?

I would refer you to the great biblical city of Nineveh (ruins are in northern Iraq near the modern city of Mosul, on the east bank of the Tigris River) in the book of Jonah, and of God's displeasure with them in 760 B.C..

Jonah 3:5 "And the Ninevites believed God. They proclaimed a fast and dressed in sackcloth, from the greatest of them to the least.

6 When word reached the king of Nineveh, he got up from his throne, took off his royal robe, covered himself with sackcloth, and sat in ashes."

Eventually, Nineveh, the capital of Assyria, was destroyed in 612 B.C. by the Medes (now the Kurds). This was in fulfillment of the prophet Nahum’s prediction that God would completely destroy the city (Nahum 1), but they had won a reprieve of 148 years.

This year, a vast majority of our nation's "ministers" sheepishly closed their churches under orders of their governors or mayors.

Does anyone believe then, that the U.S. official government leaders, those who legally represent this nation in God's eyes, would voluntarily fast, cloth themselves in sackcloth, and pour ashes upon their heads in repentance to waylay deserved divine judgement upon this land?

You may well dismiss my statement as preposterous, impractical and decidedly "unrealistic," but God is more "real" than is His creation, and His power is all encompassing.

As the Apostle John informed us, speaking of Jesus in John 1:2-4: "He was with God in the beginning.
Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.
In Him was life, and that life was the light of men."

It could be that we have five more years, or fifty, or five hundred... only God knows.

Our nation's future is in His hands,

- and, individually, our eternity will be in His presence, if we so choose.


solarkin wrote:
On this ,you are entirely correct.
I cannot dispute anything you have stated.
You know ,it isn't going to happen ,don't you
The masses are not going to turn to God .All over this Earth has been rejected .
Our future still. is in our hands ,free will ,still is ours .Men must speak ,and lead in a realistic and realistic manner to affect the change needed . Actions ,not quotes .

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Jan 15, 2021 17:55:43   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Zemirah wrote:
- and how did Jesus Christ battle Satan?"

According to the 4th chapter of Matthew, three times, Jesus said, "It is written," and then Satan departed.

Speaking through the prophet Isaiah, the Lord who created heaven and earth wholeheartedly disagrees with you when you say "Quoting Scripture changes nothing:"

Isaiah 55:10-11:

“For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven,
and return not thither but water the earth,
making it bring forth and sprout,
giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater,

so shall my word be that goes forth from my mouth;
it shall not return to me empty,
but it shall accomplish that which I purpose,
and prosper in the thing for which I sent it."

Without men who were moved by faith in the Word of God, this nation would not exist.

Without men and women who were so inspired by the Word of God, their most burning desire was the freedom to worship as they believed God had instructed them to worship Him, they would never have departed on a long journey into an unknown, unsettled land.

If godless men in the U.S. Supreme Court had not chosen to throw the knowledge of and prayer to Almighty God from the nation's schoolrooms on June 18, 1963, a far greater percentage of our citizenry, would know and honor God with reverential awe; they would have become courteous, self disciplined and responsible citizens, and they would respect, honor and obey the nation's laws.

Because of the Supreme Court's decision in 1962 and 1963, prayer in assemblies was banned in all American public schools, leading the way to banning the Holy Bible, as well.

Our national legal holocaust is now 61,628,584 of our most precious gift of the unborn (that's sixty one million, six hundred twenty eight thousand, five hundred eighty four babies), slaughtered in voluntary, virtually unlimited abortions since Roe-vs-Wade, in 1973, was made the law of our land by the men of the Supreme Court, and the nation's population has allowed that barbaric law to stand for forty eight years.

The blood of those babies cries out to God from the sewer pipes into which they were disposed.

“We have not government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” —John Adams (1735-1826). 2nd U.S. President

“It is impossible to enslave mentally or socially a Bible-reading people.
The principles of the Bible are the groundwork of human freedom.” —Horace Greeley

It is our own lawless youths who ravaged, looted and burnt our major cities this summer.

We are born flesh and spirit. Without the motivation of our spirit attuned to God, through Jesus Christ, we are a brutish, soulless lot.

With a population that is no longer moved by the Word of God this nation will not stand.

It is only the hearing of the Word of God that changes everything.
- and how did Jesus Christ battle Satan?" br ... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Jan 16, 2021 11:48:19   #
Rose42
 
Zemirah wrote:
- and how did Jesus Christ battle Satan?"

According to the 4th chapter of Matthew, three times, Jesus said, "It is written," and then Satan departed.

Speaking through the prophet Isaiah, the Lord who created heaven and earth wholeheartedly disagrees with you when you say "Quoting Scripture changes nothing:"

Isaiah 55:10-11:

“For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven,
and return not thither but water the earth,
making it bring forth and sprout,
giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater,

so shall my word be that goes forth from my mouth;
it shall not return to me empty,
but it shall accomplish that which I purpose,
and prosper in the thing for which I sent it."

Without men who were moved by faith in the Word of God, this nation would not exist.

Without men and women who were so inspired by the Word of God, their most burning desire was the freedom to worship as they believed God had instructed them to worship Him, they would never have departed on a long journey into an unknown, unsettled land.

If godless men in the U.S. Supreme Court had not chosen to throw the knowledge of and prayer to Almighty God from the nation's schoolrooms on June 18, 1963, a far greater percentage of our citizenry, would know and honor God with reverential awe; they would have become courteous, self disciplined and responsible citizens, and they would respect, honor and obey the nation's laws.

Because of the Supreme Court's decision in 1962 and 1963, prayer in assemblies was banned in all American public schools, leading the way to banning the Holy Bible, as well.

Our national legal holocaust is now 61,628,584 of our most precious gift of the unborn (that's sixty one million, six hundred twenty eight thousand, five hundred eighty four babies), slaughtered in voluntary, virtually unlimited abortions since Roe-vs-Wade, in 1973, was made the law of our land by the men of the Supreme Court, and the nation's population has allowed that barbaric law to stand for forty eight years.

The blood of those babies cries out to God from the sewer pipes into which they were disposed.

“We have not government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” —John Adams (1735-1826). 2nd U.S. President

“It is impossible to enslave mentally or socially a Bible-reading people.
The principles of the Bible are the groundwork of human freedom.” —Horace Greeley

It is our own lawless youths who ravaged, looted and burnt our major cities this summer.

We are born flesh and spirit. Without the motivation of our spirit attuned to God, through Jesus Christ, we are a brutish, soulless lot.

With a population that is no longer moved by the Word of God this nation will not stand.

It is only the hearing of the Word of God that changes everything.
- and how did Jesus Christ battle Satan?" br ... (show quote)


Amen and amen!

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Feb 1, 2021 18:19:42   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Zemirah wrote:
2021 A.D. is indeed upon us, and to deny the spiritual reality that controls it is an exercise in futility.

"Everything is indeed permitted if God does not exist, and man is in consequence forlorn, for he cannot find anything to depend upon either within or outside himself. He discovers forthwith, that he is without excuse." (Jean-Paul Sartre 1946)

Before there can be any truth whatever, there must be an absolute truth, and there is such a truth which is simple, easily attained and within the reach of everybody; it consists in belief in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, found only through God's historically accurate written revelation to mankind: the Bible.

We may individually and collectively claim to assume responsibility for anything or everything - for whatever we desire, however...

Proverbs 25:28
"He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls."

There is, quite often, a great disparity between what each of us "needs" within our immediate future, and what each of us desires and therefore "claims."

Romans 8:6
"For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace,"

This physical earth, the terra firma created by God, can provide nothing unless it is His sacred will that it do so, for God controls His creation, the weather, - the oceans, the sun, the moon, and the planets.

Isaiah 45:7
"The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity;
I am the Lord who does all these."

On the sixth day of creation, after God created terrestrial (Earth-based) animal life, Genesis 1:26 says: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

Satan now dominates the world’s man-made political, religious, social, economic, and educational systems. Hence, the Bible talks about “this present evil world” (Galatians 1:4). Satan is called “the god [or ruler] of this world” (2 Corinthians 4:4). The Bible says in 1 John 5:19, "We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one." Ephesians 2:2 speaks of the evil “course of this world.”

Thus God gave man dominion over the earth; man willfully became controlled by Satan and sin, and through fallen man, Satan gained power over this earth's worldly man-made systems.

Anyone who fails to apprehend the truth of this today, needs to cease all navel gazing, i.e., meditating on whatever unknown is out there, and seriously and soberly study both this world in which we are encased, and the eternal Word of our Creator God who loves us with an all encompassing, undying love.
2021 A.D. is indeed upon us, and to deny the spiri... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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