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Putin Defies Western Warning, Will Send "Aid Convoy" To East Ukraine
Aug 11, 2014 14:10:02   #
Patty
 
Putin Defies Western Warning, Will Send "Aid Convoy" To East Ukraine

This may get messy.

Following days of loud warnings by the West that Putin should not take any moves to send "humanitarian" aid into East Ukraine, due to western fears that this would be merely a pretext for invasion, Putin said on Monday that Russia will go ahead and send an aid convoy to eastern Ukraine anyway.

As was reported earlier, Ukraine announced that Russia has amassed 45,000 troops on its border, following by the now-daily NATO threat that there was a "high probability" that Moscow could intervene militarily in the country's east, so to many this is just the catalyst that the Kremlin could use to enter the civil war-ridden territory to support ethnic Russians, but ultimately to conduct yet another "Crimea." As a reminder, despite the constant grumblings by the West and certainly Kiev, there is zero probability that the annexed territory will be relinquished by Putin. As a further reminder, it was the emergence of local mysterious "peacekeepers" that made the annexation of Crimea a quick and painless t***sition, one in which not a shot was fired. The concern is that that was merely the appetizer with the shale-rich Donbass region serving as the main course.

According to Reuters, European Commission President Barroso "delivered a blunt message in a telephone call with Putin on Monday. "President Barroso warned against any unilateral military actions in Ukraine, under any pretext, including humanitarian," the Commission said in a statement."

The Kremlin, in its own account of the conversation, made clear that Moscow would indeed send help to largely Russian-speaking eastern Ukraine. We also doubt very much that Putin cared much if at all about any warnings uttered by the unelected Eurocrat.

"It was noted that the Russian side, in collaboration with representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross, is sending an aid convoy to Ukraine," the Kremlin statement said, without saying when the convoy was going.

And now that Putin's mind is made up, Ukraine has no choice but to accept, albeit with its so-called conditions:


Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said he supported an aid mission but made clear it had to be an international effort under the aegis of the Red Cross, involving the European Union as well as Russia. Poroshenko said U.S. President Barack Obama had also backed the international plan when they spoke on the telephone on Monday.



The International Committee of the Red Cross made no immediate comment, although last weekend it issued a statement acknowledging receipt of an offer from Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov about organizing aid convoys.

Surely Russia will closely "heed" Ukraine's conditions.

To be sure, NATO is displeased. Quote its Secretary General Rasmussen: "We see the Russians developing the narrative and the pretext for such an operation under the guise of a humanitarian operation, and we see a military build-up that could be used to conduct such illegal military operations in Ukraine," he said.

And yet, Russia appears set to enter east Ukraine despite NATO objections.

It goes without saying that all it would take for a full blown escalation, one that not even the algo-driven market could ignore, would be a Russian casualty operating in Ukraine under a "humanitarian" umbrella, wether legitimate or due to a "false f**g" attack, before the facade of artificial stability on Ukraine's east border crumbles and what was until now a civil war morps into a full-blown international conflict.

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Aug 11, 2014 14:20:08   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
President Flexable will bend over for Putin after a wordy response about how it's Bush's fault.

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Aug 11, 2014 14:37:14   #
Patty
 
Super Dave wrote:
President Flexable will bend over for Putin after a wordy response about how it's Bush's fault.


:lol: :lol: What I find bizarre is that Washington thinks people are so stupid. They are sending weapons through Canadas gov and have NATO forces in east Ukraine now shelling the hell out of the Donbass area. For once I would find it refreshing if they just said what they means. "Hey Putin we arent done shelling the unarmed civilians in the area so please refrain from sending them aid till we have sufficiently wiped out all Russians in the area."
Now the neo N**is are targeting a chemical plant there that would poison everything around it for 300 Km.

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Aug 11, 2014 15:03:43   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Savage brings up a question that no one is asking on the MSM propaganda.

What interests does American have in Ukraine? None

In today's issue: So far, the "war" between the United States and the former Soviet Union is limited to imposing increasingly harsh economic sanctions on each other.

Dr. Savage fears, however, that a genuine "hot war" will break out soon between the two superpowers if Obama is allowed to continue pushing the Ukrainian cause.

"Obama's decision to keep economic sanctions on Russia is a disaster," declared Savage.

Now both sides are imposing food sanctions on each other.

Obama and his minions don't understand business or economics.

Their whole philosophy seems to be: "Get even with Russia."

Forget left or right, or whether you're a conservative or a liberal.

I don't care whether your have pictures of Vladimir Lenin or Ronald Reagan on your bureau.

It doesn't matter.

What interests does America have in Ukraine?

I don't know of any.

Have we not learned from our military adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Have we not learned to stay within our own sphere of influence?

Ukraine is within Russia's sphere of influence, not ours.

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Aug 11, 2014 15:14:10   #
Patty
 
"Brzezinski’s “Grand Chessboard” Mapped Out Battle for Ukraine in 1997

Why would the United States run the risk of siding with anti-Semitic, neo-N**is in Ukraine?

One of the keys may be found by looking back at Zbigniew Brzezinski’s (@zbig) 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard in which he wrote, “Ukraine, a new and important space on the Eurasian chessboard, is a geopolitical pivot because its very existence as an independent country helps to t***sform Russia. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.”

“However, if Moscow regains control over Ukraine, with its 52 million people and major resources as well as access to the Black Sea, Russia automatically again regains the wherewithal to become a powerful imperial state, spanning Europe and Asia.”

The former national security advisor to Jimmy Carter from 1977 to 1981 and top foreign policy advisor to Barack Obama, Brzezinski wrote that US policy should be “unapologetic” in perpetuating “America’s own dominant position for at least a generation and preferably longer still.”

Brzezinski delved into the importance of little known Ukraine by explaining in his 1997 book, “Geopolitical pivots are the states whose importance is derived not from their power and motivation but rather from their sensitive location… which in some cases gives them a special role in either defining access to important areas or in denying resources to a significant player.”

“Ukraine, Azerbaijan, South Korea, Turkey and Iran play the role of critically important geopolitical pivots,” he wrote in The Grand Chessboard, a book viewed by many as a blueprint for US world domination.

Brzezinski wrote that Eurasia is “the chessboard on which the struggle for global primacy continues to be played,” and that “it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America.”

Understanding Brzezinski’s long-term view of Ukraine makes it easier to comprehend why the US has given $5 billion to Ukraine since 1991, and why today it is hyper-concerned about having Ukraine remain in its sphere of influence.

It may also help explain why in the past year the US and many of its media outlets have feverishly demonized Vladimir Putin.

By prominently highlighting the mistreatment of activist group Pussy R**t, incessantly condemning Russia’s regressive position on gay rights, and excessively focusing on substandard accommodations at the Sochi Olympic Games, the Obama administration has cleverly distracted the public from delving into US support of the ultra-nationalist, neo-N**i factions of the Ukrainian opposition, and has made it palatable for Americans to accept the US narrative on Ukraine.

Interestingly enough, it was Brzezinski who first compared Putin to Hitler in a March 3 Washington Post Editorial. Hillary Clinton followed-up the next day with her comments comparing the two, followed by John McCain and Marco Rubio who on March 5 agreed with Clinton’s comments comparing Putin and Hitler. Apparently Brzezinski still continues to influence US political speak.

In his book, Brzezinski contends that “America stands supreme in the four decisive domains of global power: militarily… economically… technologically… and culturally.”

While this may have been accurate in 1997, it can be argued that today, other than militarily, the US no longer reigns supreme in these domains.

So late last year when Ukraine’s now-ousted president Viktor Yanukovych surprisingly canceled plans for Ukrainian integration into the European Union in favor of stronger ties with Russia, the US may have viewed Ukraine as slipping even further out of its reach.

At that point, with the pieces already in place, the US moved to support the ousting of Yanukovych, as evidenced by the leaked phone conversation between US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland (arch-Neocon Robert Kagan‘s wife) and US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt. When peaceful protests were not effective in unseating Yanukovych, the violence of the ultra-nationalist Svoboda party and Right Sector was embraced, if not supported by the west.

In today’s Ukraine, the US runs the risk of being affiliated with anti-Semitic neo-N**is, a prospect it probably feels can be controlled via a friendly western media. But even if the risk is high, the US likely views it as necessary given the geopolitical importance of Ukraine, as Brzezinski mapped out in 1997."

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Aug 11, 2014 16:53:41   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Snubbing Obama, Russia And China Sign Historic Deal To Bypass The U.S. Dollar

NTEB News Desk | August 11, 2014

A Failed Russia ‘Reset’ Continues To Haunt Obama

“The sanctions we put in place against Russia are working as intended” – Barack Obama, August 6, 2014
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=24161

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Aug 11, 2014 17:05:45   #
Patty
 
Yep 26 countries have signed currency swaps with China so far in the last couple months. Washingtons sanctions are sending a clear signal to the rest of the world that if you don't do what we say we will cripple your economies. Thus countries are dumping the dollar like a steaming dog pile on a crisp winter morning.
Not even US corps are paying attention to this admin occupiers of our White House any longer.
http://thebricspost.com/exxonmobil-starts-russian-drilling-with-us-sanctioned-rosneft/#.U-kvXzbD_IU
"You give me this office, and in turn, my fears, doubts, insecurities, foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure is gone. I am giving myself to you. The American people should have no patience for wh**ever is going through your head because you have a job to do. You don't make that decision unless you are prepared to make that sacrifice, that tradeoff. Those who make mistakes in the president's office make them because they haven't fully thought through the dimensions of that choice."

- Barack Hussein Obama
bdamage wrote:
Snubbing Obama, Russia And China Sign Historic Deal To Bypass The U.S. Dollar

NTEB News Desk | August 11, 2014

A Failed Russia ‘Reset’ Continues To Haunt Obama

“The sanctions we put in place against Russia are working as intended” – Barack Obama, August 6, 2014
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=24161

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Aug 11, 2014 19:28:48   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Patty wrote:
Putin Defies Western Warning, Will Send "Aid Convoy" To East Ukraine

This may get messy.

Following days of loud warnings by the West that Putin should not take any moves to send "humanitarian" aid into East Ukraine, due to western fears that this would be merely a pretext for invasion, Putin said on Monday that Russia will go ahead and send an aid convoy to eastern Ukraine anyway.

As was reported earlier, Ukraine announced that Russia has amassed 45,000 troops on its border, following by the now-daily NATO threat that there was a "high probability" that Moscow could intervene militarily in the country's east, so to many this is just the catalyst that the Kremlin could use to enter the civil war-ridden territory to support ethnic Russians, but ultimately to conduct yet another "Crimea." As a reminder, despite the constant grumblings by the West and certainly Kiev, there is zero probability that the annexed territory will be relinquished by Putin. As a further reminder, it was the emergence of local mysterious "peacekeepers" that made the annexation of Crimea a quick and painless t***sition, one in which not a shot was fired. The concern is that that was merely the appetizer with the shale-rich Donbass region serving as the main course.

According to Reuters, European Commission President Barroso "delivered a blunt message in a telephone call with Putin on Monday. "President Barroso warned against any unilateral military actions in Ukraine, under any pretext, including humanitarian," the Commission said in a statement."

The Kremlin, in its own account of the conversation, made clear that Moscow would indeed send help to largely Russian-speaking eastern Ukraine. We also doubt very much that Putin cared much if at all about any warnings uttered by the unelected Eurocrat.

"It was noted that the Russian side, in collaboration with representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross, is sending an aid convoy to Ukraine," the Kremlin statement said, without saying when the convoy was going.

And now that Putin's mind is made up, Ukraine has no choice but to accept, albeit with its so-called conditions:


Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said he supported an aid mission but made clear it had to be an international effort under the aegis of the Red Cross, involving the European Union as well as Russia. Poroshenko said U.S. President Barack Obama had also backed the international plan when they spoke on the telephone on Monday.



The International Committee of the Red Cross made no immediate comment, although last weekend it issued a statement acknowledging receipt of an offer from Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov about organizing aid convoys.

Surely Russia will closely "heed" Ukraine's conditions.

To be sure, NATO is displeased. Quote its Secretary General Rasmussen: "We see the Russians developing the narrative and the pretext for such an operation under the guise of a humanitarian operation, and we see a military build-up that could be used to conduct such illegal military operations in Ukraine," he said.

And yet, Russia appears set to enter east Ukraine despite NATO objections.

It goes without saying that all it would take for a full blown escalation, one that not even the algo-driven market could ignore, would be a Russian casualty operating in Ukraine under a "humanitarian" umbrella, wether legitimate or due to a "false f**g" attack, before the facade of artificial stability on Ukraine's east border crumbles and what was until now a civil war morps into a full-blown international conflict.
Putin Defies Western Warning, Will Send "Aid ... (show quote)


Why would he not? NATO has already proven that it's bark is worse than it's bite. Putin is finally calling their bluff.

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