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Nov 21, 2020 09:05:40   #
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Even Britain’s Tough Gun Control Laws Can’t Keep Criminals from Firearms.


The United Kingdom is often marketed as a model of tough gun control that the United States should follow. Its firearms laws are among the strictest of developed countries. In essence, it has no concept of a Second Amendment, and lawful citizens are often at the mercy of criminals who use blunt objects, blades, and even firearms to carry out violence.

A group of gang members who were arrested last November finally received convictions late last month for a total of 50 years among them. The criminals were arrested during a raid in southern England about a year ago. Law enforcement seized three illegal firearms during this encounter.

"If [the guns] would have ended up in criminal hands on the streets of Bristol, the consequences would be just unimaginable," declared Detective Chief Inspector Simon Dewfall, who was in charge of the operation launched against the gang members.

According to a report by CBS News, there has been a rise in the number of illegal firearms being smuggled into the island nation. Roughly 900 of the illegal firearms that have been seized during the past three years came from the U.S. This figure also includes the aforementioned firearms that were seized last November.

“What we are seeing is an upward trend of guns coming out of gun stores in America and the parcel service is being used to ship them to the U.K. and into criminal hands," Dewfall observed.

At the moment, the U.K. is dealing with record levels of knife crime. In 2019, there were approximately 46,000 incidents of knife crime. With guns potentially entering the mix, the U.K. could be in for a nasty crime wave. From March 2018 to March 2019, the U.K.'s Office for National Statistics released a report documenting 9,800 criminal offenses with firearms involved. This figure marked a 4 percent increase from 2018.

British officials are taking notice of U.S. firearms making their way to the U.K.

"In 2015, after detecting a significant increase in U.S. firearms seizures destined for the U.K., the HIS [Homeland Security Investigations] London office partnered with the Metropolitan Police Service and the (National Crime Agency) to develop a proactive firearms smuggling operation," said James Mancuso, a former HSI London Attaché. "For example, two defendants convicted of attempting to receive a semi-automatic handgun had extensive criminal histories, to include fatally stabbing a rival gang member at a busy train station."

Although there will be a lot of attention given to the American origin of these firearms, where they come from does not matter. What this case illustrates is that criminals will always find ways to acquire firearms. Even in an island nation with strict gun control laws such as the U.K., criminals can still get a hold of weapons. In the last decade or so, knives have been the preferred weapon for man criminals. But now, it seems that criminals have figured out ways to reliably get their hands on firearms.

British authorities can try to stem the flow of guns all they want, but it seems the criminals will do everything they can to obtain firearms. In the midst of all of this, lawful British citizens are unable to defend themselves. Reasonable people would come to the conclusion that allowing for lawful individuals to be armed would be a much more pragmatic way of establishing deterrence against criminals. The U.K. should take this into account and recognize that its current gun policies only leave its citizens vulnerable against criminals who are ready – and obviously able – to circumvent every law possible to prey upon the innocent.

The fact is, words on paper (laws) will not keep the bad guys from getting guns. It only keeps people that
obey the law defenselessly!

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Nov 21, 2020 09:35:12   #
American Vet
 
Capt-jack wrote:
Even Britain’s Tough Gun Control Laws Can’t Keep Criminals from Firearms.


The United Kingdom is often marketed as a model of tough gun control that the United States should follow. Its firearms laws are among the strictest of developed countries. In essence, it has no concept of a Second Amendment, and lawful citizens are often at the mercy of criminals who use blunt objects, blades, and even firearms to carry out violence.

A group of gang members who were arrested last November finally received convictions late last month for a total of 50 years among them. The criminals were arrested during a raid in southern England about a year ago. Law enforcement seized three illegal firearms during this encounter.

"If [the guns] would have ended up in criminal hands on the streets of Bristol, the consequences would be just unimaginable," declared Detective Chief Inspector Simon Dewfall, who was in charge of the operation launched against the gang members.

According to a report by CBS News, there has been a rise in the number of illegal firearms being smuggled into the island nation. Roughly 900 of the illegal firearms that have been seized during the past three years came from the U.S. This figure also includes the aforementioned firearms that were seized last November.

“What we are seeing is an upward trend of guns coming out of gun stores in America and the parcel service is being used to ship them to the U.K. and into criminal hands," Dewfall observed.

At the moment, the U.K. is dealing with record levels of knife crime. In 2019, there were approximately 46,000 incidents of knife crime. With guns potentially entering the mix, the U.K. could be in for a nasty crime wave. From March 2018 to March 2019, the U.K.'s Office for National Statistics released a report documenting 9,800 criminal offenses with firearms involved. This figure marked a 4 percent increase from 2018.

British officials are taking notice of U.S. firearms making their way to the U.K.

"In 2015, after detecting a significant increase in U.S. firearms seizures destined for the U.K., the HIS [Homeland Security Investigations] London office partnered with the Metropolitan Police Service and the (National Crime Agency) to develop a proactive firearms smuggling operation," said James Mancuso, a former HSI London Attaché. "For example, two defendants convicted of attempting to receive a semi-automatic handgun had extensive criminal histories, to include fatally stabbing a rival gang member at a busy train station."

Although there will be a lot of attention given to the American origin of these firearms, where they come from does not matter. What this case illustrates is that criminals will always find ways to acquire firearms. Even in an island nation with strict gun control laws such as the U.K., criminals can still get a hold of weapons. In the last decade or so, knives have been the preferred weapon for man criminals. But now, it seems that criminals have figured out ways to reliably get their hands on firearms.

British authorities can try to stem the flow of guns all they want, but it seems the criminals will do everything they can to obtain firearms. In the midst of all of this, lawful British citizens are unable to defend themselves. Reasonable people would come to the conclusion that allowing for lawful individuals to be armed would be a much more pragmatic way of establishing deterrence against criminals. The U.K. should take this into account and recognize that its current gun policies only leave its citizens vulnerable against criminals who are ready – and obviously able – to circumvent every law possible to prey upon the innocent.

The fact is, words on paper (laws) will not keep the bad guys from getting guns. It only keeps people that
obey the law defenselessly!
Even Britain’s Tough Gun Control Laws Can’t Keep C... (show quote)


As the old saying goes - gun control isn't about guns.......

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Nov 21, 2020 10:02:29   #
tbutkovich
 
So if the Democrats ban guns for law abiding citizens and support Antifa, terrorists and looters, and defund the police. Where will the good citizens of this country stand if Joe Biden’s handlers take away the guns.

We will have to use our pocket knives to defend ourselves against the forces of evil! Hope the Biden Voters enjoy their choices for the “Brave New World Order!”

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Nov 21, 2020 10:25:19   #
Carol Kelly
 
Capt-jack wrote:
Even Britain’s Tough Gun Control Laws Can’t Keep Criminals from Firearms.


The United Kingdom is often marketed as a model of tough gun control that the United States should follow. Its firearms laws are among the strictest of developed countries. In essence, it has no concept of a Second Amendment, and lawful citizens are often at the mercy of criminals who use blunt objects, blades, and even firearms to carry out violence.

A group of gang members who were arrested last November finally received convictions late last month for a total of 50 years among them. The criminals were arrested during a raid in southern England about a year ago. Law enforcement seized three illegal firearms during this encounter.

"If [the guns] would have ended up in criminal hands on the streets of Bristol, the consequences would be just unimaginable," declared Detective Chief Inspector Simon Dewfall, who was in charge of the operation launched against the gang members.

According to a report by CBS News, there has been a rise in the number of illegal firearms being smuggled into the island nation. Roughly 900 of the illegal firearms that have been seized during the past three years came from the U.S. This figure also includes the aforementioned firearms that were seized last November.

“What we are seeing is an upward trend of guns coming out of gun stores in America and the parcel service is being used to ship them to the U.K. and into criminal hands," Dewfall observed.

At the moment, the U.K. is dealing with record levels of knife crime. In 2019, there were approximately 46,000 incidents of knife crime. With guns potentially entering the mix, the U.K. could be in for a nasty crime wave. From March 2018 to March 2019, the U.K.'s Office for National Statistics released a report documenting 9,800 criminal offenses with firearms involved. This figure marked a 4 percent increase from 2018.

British officials are taking notice of U.S. firearms making their way to the U.K.

"In 2015, after detecting a significant increase in U.S. firearms seizures destined for the U.K., the HIS [Homeland Security Investigations] London office partnered with the Metropolitan Police Service and the (National Crime Agency) to develop a proactive firearms smuggling operation," said James Mancuso, a former HSI London Attaché. "For example, two defendants convicted of attempting to receive a semi-automatic handgun had extensive criminal histories, to include fatally stabbing a rival gang member at a busy train station."

Although there will be a lot of attention given to the American origin of these firearms, where they come from does not matter. What this case illustrates is that criminals will always find ways to acquire firearms. Even in an island nation with strict gun control laws such as the U.K., criminals can still get a hold of weapons. In the last decade or so, knives have been the preferred weapon for man criminals. But now, it seems that criminals have figured out ways to reliably get their hands on firearms.

British authorities can try to stem the flow of guns all they want, but it seems the criminals will do everything they can to obtain firearms. In the midst of all of this, lawful British citizens are unable to defend themselves. Reasonable people would come to the conclusion that allowing for lawful individuals to be armed would be a much more pragmatic way of establishing deterrence against criminals. The U.K. should take this into account and recognize that its current gun policies only leave its citizens vulnerable against criminals who are ready – and obviously able – to circumvent every law possible to prey upon the innocent.

The fact is, words on paper (laws) will not keep the bad guys from getting guns. It only keeps people that
obey the law defenselessly!
Even Britain’s Tough Gun Control Laws Can’t Keep C... (show quote)


Amen.

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Nov 21, 2020 10:25:58   #
Carol Kelly
 
tbutkovich wrote:
So if the Democrats ban guns for law abiding citizens and support Antifa, terrorists and looters, and defund the police. Where will the good citizens of this country stand if Joe Biden’s handlers take away the guns.

We will have to use our pocket knives to defend ourselves against the forces of evil! Hope the Biden Voters enjoy their choices for the “Brave New World Order!”


Steak knives will work better if you can get that close.

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Nov 21, 2020 10:26:17   #
Carol Kelly
 
American Vet wrote:
As the old saying goes - gun control isn't about guns.......


Precisely.

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Nov 21, 2020 10:27:51   #
roy
 
tbutkovich wrote:
So if the Democrats ban guns for law abiding citizens and support Antifa, terrorists and looters, and defund the police. Where will the good citizens of this country stand if Joe Biden’s handlers take away the guns.

We will have to use our pocket knives to defend ourselves against the forces of evil! Hope the Biden Voters enjoy their choices for the “Brave New World Order!”


Nobody going to take your guns,unless trump trys to pull a coup on our country then he sure enough will have you guns,

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Nov 21, 2020 10:33:10   #
tbutkovich
 
roy wrote:
Nobody going to take your guns,unless trump trys to pull a coup on our country then he sure enough will have you guns,


I see your another one of those “little picture guys!” You can’t see the forest for the trees!

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Nov 21, 2020 11:54:21   #
American Vet
 
roy wrote:
Nobody going to take your guns


That's not what some liberal politicians say......

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Nov 22, 2020 17:23:06   #
jwrevagent
 
tbutkovich wrote:
So if the Democrats ban guns for law abiding citizens and support Antifa, terrorists and looters, and defund the police. Where will the good citizens of this country stand if Joe Biden’s handlers take away the guns.

We will have to use our pocket knives to defend ourselves against the forces of evil! Hope the Biden Voters enjoy their choices for the “Brave New World Order!”


If only the Biden voters were effected, that would be fine. However, we will all be effected by a Biden gun confiscation. Would anyone who is rational really voluntarily give up any chance of defending themselves and their families because some bozo says they should? With no police protection, with corruption in every walk of life, I would think that if they came to get your gun, they would not walk away upright! And that is how rebellion and revolutions begin. Some people will bow and obey, some will fight because they have nothing to lose, really. If they take my only protection from me and make me a sitting duck for criminals, why would I not at least go down fighting? Lots of blood in the streets, and not all law abiding citizens' blood would be the result. Is this really how totally not ignorant, but STUPID these people are? Does Biden really think people will simply hand over their guns for a few paltry dollars? Really? Wow! He is more demented than I thought.

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