rudy and his press conference: . Can't let this one from Quora go without your reading it: By Alan Whitley Did we learn anything new from Rudy Giuliani's press conference today? Rudy...

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

. Can't let this one from Quora go without your reading it:

By Alan Whitley

Did we learn anything new from Rudy Giuliani's press conference today?

Rudy provided what would be a damming list of e******n errors, inconsistencies and fraud, which would leave a dark cloud of doubt h*****g over the entire e******n process, that, regardless of what happened in the courts, would lead to a substantial proportion of US citizens refusing to accept a Biden win, and which could have unthinkable consequences, except for one comment he made.

When asked by a journalist at his news coverage for the evidence he had to support the raft of claims he made Rudy responded "I would love to release all the information I have. I would love to give it to you all, except most of you wouldn't cover it. A few of you would. Then we would have half of the American people properly informed”.

For Trump supporting Republican v**ers, this should be all you need to see through this complex, convoluted web of lies spun by your President and his lawyer that is a direct attack on the very constitutional rights you are defending so stoically.

Don't ignore the fact that 99% of the world's media is calling Trump out for his lies. Stop reading the same media that Trump is building his case from and look at what the world is saying. The Democrats don't have the power or the reach to have the world's media on their payroll. If you want an unbiased, non partisan perspective on what's happening in the USA, look outside the USA for these sources

Don't dismiss the 32 out of 33 court cases that Trump has filed and failed in. Your separation of powers enshrouded in your Constitution and legislation has not been spectacularly hijacked, nor has the US judiciary become a partisan Democratic movement overnight.

If the substance is published and supports the claims, it's game over. The divided opinions will swing in Trump's favor. The world's media will get behind Trump's demands. The government's of the free world will agitate for the wrongs to be righted and for the rightful party to rule the US. Guiliani knows this is also true. He also knows he has no evidence, only convoluted, unsubstantiated rhetoric.

Your president is prosecuting the most deceitful, dangerous, d******e and treasonous attack on the very fabric of your society, for the benefit of himself, and he has shown he does not give-a-fuck about you, your nation or your Constitution and rights. This is only about Donald Trump.

He will continue to tear apart your nation if you let him. Please consider carefully the allegiance you have given him, because your belief in his claims is the oxygen fueling the fire that is burning at the very foundations of your great nation. I'm not suggesting you abandon your Republican conservative values, in fact I'm suggesting that you apply these very same values to protect your country and community from this existential threat and reject your President's dangerous and d******e rhetoric.

Lonewolf

permafrost wrote:

. Can't let this one from Quora go without your reading it:

By Alan Whitley

Did we learn anything new from Rudy Giuliani's press conference today?

Rudy provided what would be a damming list of e******n errors, inconsistencies and fraud, which would leave a dark cloud of doubt h*****g over the entire e******n process, that, regardless of what happened in the courts, would lead to a substantial proportion of US citizens refusing to accept a Biden win, and which could have unthinkable consequences, except for one comment he made.

When asked by a journalist at his news coverage for the evidence he had to support the raft of claims he made Rudy responded "I would love to release all the information I have. I would love to give it to you all, except most of you wouldn't cover it. A few of you would. Then we would have half of the American people properly informed”.

For Trump supporting Republican v**ers, this should be all you need to see through this complex, convoluted web of lies spun by your President and his lawyer that is a direct attack on the very constitutional rights you are defending so stoically.

Don't ignore the fact that 99% of the world's media is calling Trump out for his lies. Stop reading the same media that Trump is building his case from and look at what the world is saying. The Democrats don't have the power or the reach to have the world's media on their payroll. If you want an unbiased, non partisan perspective on what's happening in the USA, look outside the USA for these sources

Don't dismiss the 32 out of 33 court cases that Trump has filed and failed in. Your separation of powers enshrouded in your Constitution and legislation has not been spectacularly hijacked, nor has the US judiciary become a partisan Democratic movement overnight.

If the substance is published and supports the claims, it's game over. The divided opinions will swing in Trump's favor. The world's media will get behind Trump's demands. The government's of the free world will agitate for the wrongs to be righted and for the rightful party to rule the US. Guiliani knows this is also true. He also knows he has no evidence, only convoluted, unsubstantiated rhetoric.

Your president is prosecuting the most deceitful, dangerous, d******e and treasonous attack on the very fabric of your society, for the benefit of himself, and he has shown he does not give-a-fuck about you, your nation or your Constitution and rights. This is only about Donald Trump.

He will continue to tear apart your nation if you let him. Please consider carefully the allegiance you have given him, because your belief in his claims is the oxygen fueling the fire that is burning at the very foundations of your great nation. I'm not suggesting you abandon your Republican conservative values, in fact I'm suggesting that you apply these very same values to protect your country and community from this existential threat and reject your President's dangerous and d******e rhetoric.

. Can't let this one from Quora go without your re... (show quote)

Good post

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

permafrost wrote:

. Can't let this one from Quora go without your reading it:

By Alan Whitley

Did we learn anything new from Rudy Giuliani's press conference today?

Rudy provided what would be a damming list of e******n errors, inconsistencies and fraud, which would leave a dark cloud of doubt h*****g over the entire e******n process, that, regardless of what happened in the courts, would lead to a substantial proportion of US citizens refusing to accept a Biden win, and which could have unthinkable consequences, except for one comment he made.

When asked by a journalist at his news coverage for the evidence he had to support the raft of claims he made Rudy responded "I would love to release all the information I have. I would love to give it to you all, except most of you wouldn't cover it. A few of you would. Then we would have half of the American people properly informed”.

For Trump supporting Republican v**ers, this should be all you need to see through this complex, convoluted web of lies spun by your President and his lawyer that is a direct attack on the very constitutional rights you are defending so stoically.

Don't ignore the fact that 99% of the world's media is calling Trump out for his lies. Stop reading the same media that Trump is building his case from and look at what the world is saying. The Democrats don't have the power or the reach to have the world's media on their payroll. If you want an unbiased, non partisan perspective on what's happening in the USA, look outside the USA for these sources

Don't dismiss the 32 out of 33 court cases that Trump has filed and failed in. Your separation of powers enshrouded in your Constitution and legislation has not been spectacularly hijacked, nor has the US judiciary become a partisan Democratic movement overnight.

If the substance is published and supports the claims, it's game over. The divided opinions will swing in Trump's favor. The world's media will get behind Trump's demands. The government's of the free world will agitate for the wrongs to be righted and for the rightful party to rule the US. Guiliani knows this is also true. He also knows he has no evidence, only convoluted, unsubstantiated rhetoric.

Your president is prosecuting the most deceitful, dangerous, d******e and treasonous attack on the very fabric of your society, for the benefit of himself, and he has shown he does not give-a-fuck about you, your nation or your Constitution and rights. This is only about Donald Trump.

He will continue to tear apart your nation if you let him. Please consider carefully the allegiance you have given him, because your belief in his claims is the oxygen fueling the fire that is burning at the very foundations of your great nation. I'm not suggesting you abandon your Republican conservative values, in fact I'm suggesting that you apply these very same values to protect your country and community from this existential threat and reject your President's dangerous and d******e rhetoric.

. Can't let this one from Quora go without your re... (show quote)

I love when the uninformed say things like
“ We are a nation of Laws!”
But can’t figure how Laws work without
Consequences!
We need Consequences !
For Liars, T*****rs, Thieves, mother rapers, father rapers, degenerates and miscreants.
Real Consequences!!!
Life Altering Consequences !
Consequences that would make you step back and weigh the circumstances against losing life or liberty.
Consequences.... it’s what’s for Supper !

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

permafrost wrote:

. Can't let this one from Quora go without your reading it:

By Alan Whitley

Did we learn anything new from Rudy Giuliani's press conference today?

Rudy provided what would be a damming list of e******n errors, inconsistencies and fraud, which would leave a dark cloud of doubt h*****g over the entire e******n process, that, regardless of what happened in the courts, would lead to a substantial proportion of US citizens refusing to accept a Biden win, and which could have unthinkable consequences, except for one comment he made.

When asked by a journalist at his news coverage for the evidence he had to support the raft of claims he made Rudy responded "I would love to release all the information I have. I would love to give it to you all, except most of you wouldn't cover it. A few of you would. Then we would have half of the American people properly informed”.

For Trump supporting Republican v**ers, this should be all you need to see through this complex, convoluted web of lies spun by your President and his lawyer that is a direct attack on the very constitutional rights you are defending so stoically.

Don't ignore the fact that 99% of the world's media is calling Trump out for his lies. Stop reading the same media that Trump is building his case from and look at what the world is saying. The Democrats don't have the power or the reach to have the world's media on their payroll. If you want an unbiased, non partisan perspective on what's happening in the USA, look outside the USA for these sources

Don't dismiss the 32 out of 33 court cases that Trump has filed and failed in. Your separation of powers enshrouded in your Constitution and legislation has not been spectacularly hijacked, nor has the US judiciary become a partisan Democratic movement overnight.

If the substance is published and supports the claims, it's game over. The divided opinions will swing in Trump's favor. The world's media will get behind Trump's demands. The government's of the free world will agitate for the wrongs to be righted and for the rightful party to rule the US. Guiliani knows this is also true. He also knows he has no evidence, only convoluted, unsubstantiated rhetoric.

Your president is prosecuting the most deceitful, dangerous, d******e and treasonous attack on the very fabric of your society, for the benefit of himself, and he has shown he does not give-a-fuck about you, your nation or your Constitution and rights. This is only about Donald Trump.

He will continue to tear apart your nation if you let him. Please consider carefully the allegiance you have given him, because your belief in his claims is the oxygen fueling the fire that is burning at the very foundations of your great nation. I'm not suggesting you abandon your Republican conservative values, in fact I'm suggesting that you apply these very same values to protect your country and community from this existential threat and reject your President's dangerous and d******e rhetoric.

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Not to mention; graham calling SOS trying to get them to toss b****ts, trump calling Michigan v**e certifiers to get them to decertify the v**e, calling a meeting with legislators...................all of which sounds like e******n i**********e to me.

Who need worry about foreign adversaries messing with our e******ns.....................when we got trump and the GOP?

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

lpnmajor wrote:

Not to mention; graham calling SOS trying to get them to toss b****ts, trump calling Michigan v**e certifiers to get them to decertify the v**e, calling a meeting with legislators...................all of which sounds like e******n i**********e to me.

Who need worry about foreign adversaries messing with our e******ns.....................when we got trump and the GOP?

They need Consequences!

Airforceone

permafrost wrote:

. Can't let this one from Quora go without your reading it:

By Alan Whitley

Did we learn anything new from Rudy Giuliani's press conference today?

Rudy provided what would be a damming list of e******n errors, inconsistencies and fraud, which would leave a dark cloud of doubt h*****g over the entire e******n process, that, regardless of what happened in the courts, would lead to a substantial proportion of US citizens refusing to accept a Biden win, and which could have unthinkable consequences, except for one comment he made.

When asked by a journalist at his news coverage for the evidence he had to support the raft of claims he made Rudy responded "I would love to release all the information I have. I would love to give it to you all, except most of you wouldn't cover it. A few of you would. Then we would have half of the American people properly informed”.

For Trump supporting Republican v**ers, this should be all you need to see through this complex, convoluted web of lies spun by your President and his lawyer that is a direct attack on the very constitutional rights you are defending so stoically.

Don't ignore the fact that 99% of the world's media is calling Trump out for his lies. Stop reading the same media that Trump is building his case from and look at what the world is saying. The Democrats don't have the power or the reach to have the world's media on their payroll. If you want an unbiased, non partisan perspective on what's happening in the USA, look outside the USA for these sources

Don't dismiss the 32 out of 33 court cases that Trump has filed and failed in. Your separation of powers enshrouded in your Constitution and legislation has not been spectacularly hijacked, nor has the US judiciary become a partisan Democratic movement overnight.

If the substance is published and supports the claims, it's game over. The divided opinions will swing in Trump's favor. The world's media will get behind Trump's demands. The government's of the free world will agitate for the wrongs to be righted and for the rightful party to rule the US. Guiliani knows this is also true. He also knows he has no evidence, only convoluted, unsubstantiated rhetoric.

Your president is prosecuting the most deceitful, dangerous, d******e and treasonous attack on the very fabric of your society, for the benefit of himself, and he has shown he does not give-a-fuck about you, your nation or your Constitution and rights. This is only about Donald Trump.

He will continue to tear apart your nation if you let him. Please consider carefully the allegiance you have given him, because your belief in his claims is the oxygen fueling the fire that is burning at the very foundations of your great nation. I'm not suggesting you abandon your Republican conservative values, in fact I'm suggesting that you apply these very same values to protect your country and community from this existential threat and reject your President's dangerous and d******e rhetoric.

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When Rudy talks in public he uses the word fraud but when he stands in front of a judge he says it’s not a fraud case because if Rudy used the word fraud he knows he would be lying to a judge and he would be subject to disbarment. Rudy still has not produced any evidence in a court of law that comes close to probing fraud. But Rudy will say and do anything because he is being paid from Trump donors $20,000 a day

PeterS

permafrost wrote:

. Can't let this one from Quora go without your reading it:

By Alan Whitley

Did we learn anything new from Rudy Giuliani's press conference today?

Rudy provided what would be a damming list of e******n errors, inconsistencies and fraud, which would leave a dark cloud of doubt h*****g over the entire e******n process, that, regardless of what happened in the courts, would lead to a substantial proportion of US citizens refusing to accept a Biden win, and which could have unthinkable consequences, except for one comment he made.

When asked by a journalist at his news coverage for the evidence he had to support the raft of claims he made Rudy responded "I would love to release all the information I have. I would love to give it to you all, except most of you wouldn't cover it. A few of you would. Then we would have half of the American people properly informed”.

For Trump supporting Republican v**ers, this should be all you need to see through this complex, convoluted web of lies spun by your President and his lawyer that is a direct attack on the very constitutional rights you are defending so stoically.

Don't ignore the fact that 99% of the world's media is calling Trump out for his lies. Stop reading the same media that Trump is building his case from and look at what the world is saying. The Democrats don't have the power or the reach to have the world's media on their payroll. If you want an unbiased, non partisan perspective on what's happening in the USA, look outside the USA for these sources

Don't dismiss the 32 out of 33 court cases that Trump has filed and failed in. Your separation of powers enshrouded in your Constitution and legislation has not been spectacularly hijacked, nor has the US judiciary become a partisan Democratic movement overnight.

If the substance is published and supports the claims, it's game over. The divided opinions will swing in Trump's favor. The world's media will get behind Trump's demands. The government's of the free world will agitate for the wrongs to be righted and for the rightful party to rule the US. Guiliani knows this is also true. He also knows he has no evidence, only convoluted, unsubstantiated rhetoric.

Your president is prosecuting the most deceitful, dangerous, d******e and treasonous attack on the very fabric of your society, for the benefit of himself, and he has shown he does not give-a-fuck about you, your nation or your Constitution and rights. This is only about Donald Trump.

He will continue to tear apart your nation if you let him. Please consider carefully the allegiance you have given him, because your belief in his claims is the oxygen fueling the fire that is burning at the very foundations of your great nation. I'm not suggesting you abandon your Republican conservative values, in fact I'm suggesting that you apply these very same values to protect your country and community from this existential threat and reject your President's dangerous and d******e rhetoric.

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The problem is--and this article touched on it--is that conservatives are consumed by opinion news that it has created for them a separate alternate reality with their own set of alternate t***hs and there exists no way for the real world to breach the world that they live in.

If Trump says there was c***ting, conservative talking heads pick it up and repeat it in a loop until Trump's words become the t***h. That every effort to win in court fails, for conservatives this isn't because of lack of evidence, as cited by the judge, but because the courts have been nefariously consumed by liberal "activist" judges!

And the beauty of all this, for those pulling the strings, is that they never have to provide proof because every time an accusation is made the conservative body automatically thinks it is true. There is never any fact-checking on the conservative side and there is no independent fact-checking that conservatives will believe. So for Trump and conservative talking heads, this means they can spread anything they want to spread and the conservative body will believe everything they say.

So Rudy and his press conference, as comical as it was, provides FACTS for conservatives that they file away for future reference as justification for overturning the e******n. So consumed by RW propaganda are conservatives that not even when it is delivered by a clown does it merit any kind of doubt...and that's just sad!

PeterS

Milosia2 wrote:

They need Consequences!

The consequence is that they should be v**ed out. That they aren't is reflective of how controlled by opinion media the right really is...

EmilyD

permafrost wrote:

. Can't let this one from Quora go without your reading it:

By Alan Whitley

Did we learn anything new from Rudy Giuliani's press conference today?

Rudy provided what would be a damming list of e******n errors, inconsistencies and fraud, which would leave a dark cloud of doubt h*****g over the entire e******n process, that, regardless of what happened in the courts, would lead to a substantial proportion of US citizens refusing to accept a Biden win, and which could have unthinkable consequences, except for one comment he made.

When asked by a journalist at his news coverage for the evidence he had to support the raft of claims he made Rudy responded "I would love to release all the information I have. I would love to give it to you all, except most of you wouldn't cover it. A few of you would. Then we would have half of the American people properly informed”.

For Trump supporting Republican v**ers, this should be all you need to see through this complex, convoluted web of lies spun by your President and his lawyer that is a direct attack on the very constitutional rights you are defending so stoically.

Don't ignore the fact that 99% of the world's media is calling Trump out for his lies. Stop reading the same media that Trump is building his case from and look at what the world is saying. The Democrats don't have the power or the reach to have the world's media on their payroll. If you want an unbiased, non partisan perspective on what's happening in the USA, look outside the USA for these sources

Don't dismiss the 32 out of 33 court cases that Trump has filed and failed in. Your separation of powers enshrouded in your Constitution and legislation has not been spectacularly hijacked, nor has the US judiciary become a partisan Democratic movement overnight.

If the substance is published and supports the claims, it's game over. The divided opinions will swing in Trump's favor. The world's media will get behind Trump's demands. The government's of the free world will agitate for the wrongs to be righted and for the rightful party to rule the US. Guiliani knows this is also true. He also knows he has no evidence, only convoluted, unsubstantiated rhetoric.

Your president is prosecuting the most deceitful, dangerous, d******e and treasonous attack on the very fabric of your society, for the benefit of himself, and he has shown he does not give-a-fuck about you, your nation or your Constitution and rights. This is only about Donald Trump.

He will continue to tear apart your nation if you let him. Please consider carefully the allegiance you have given him, because your belief in his claims is the oxygen fueling the fire that is burning at the very foundations of your great nation. I'm not suggesting you abandon your Republican conservative values, in fact I'm suggesting that you apply these very same values to protect your country and community from this existential threat and reject your President's dangerous and d******e rhetoric.

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This piece of complete propaganda and effort to convince Trump's fan base that they should not support him makes me (and probably most of his supporters on here) believe that more than ever before President Trump needs our FULL support. Especially in light of all the hatred and venom you spew daily towards him...it's obvious that this is just you being h**eful towards him......again. In fact, I will go as far as to say you are obsessed with hatred for President Trump. Full on TDS.

Copying and pasting an article that agrees with your viewpoint is easy to do....anyone can do the same. It means nothing.

Thanks for the reminder that his base will NOT leave him under any circumstances, and if he loses because of lying, c***ting Democrats and their lying deceiving media...then we will support him THREEFOLD if he decides to run in 2024! And I will be one of the first people out there cheering him on!!

People like you make me want to get in my car and drive to DC and march in a parade to support my President through thick and thin. In fact, I think I'll go get my Trump f**g and put it on my car and go drive around town...thanks for the idea!

I am a firm believer that hatred at such a magnitude of yours will come back at you. I hope you are prepared for it when it hits - it won't be pretty.

Airforceone

EmilyD wrote:

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Wow h**e maybe you people should back check some of the h**e filled rants we endured over 8 years of Obama. Not even close compared to what Trump is getting hit with even thou Trump deserves every bit of these h**e filled rants from the left. This country had to endure 4 years of Trump tweets that were nothing but h**e in his attempt to divide this country and control his i***t base with childish lies, conspiracy theories and Russia propaganda. You are nothing but a hypocrite

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

PeterS wrote:

The problem is--and this article touched on it--is... (show quote)

I could not agree with you more..

And what the heck to do about it , I have no idea..

Our problems are with us for a long time..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

EmilyD wrote:

This piece of complete propaganda and effort to co... (show quote)

Emily, you are the proof of Petes post.. exactly..

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

permafrost wrote:

I could not agree with you more..

And what the heck to do about it , I have no idea..

Our problems are with us for a long time..

I say Consequences !
Lock up a few , d**g a few in front of a real judge, let them explain this screwed up behavior. Oust a few for insubordination!
Get a little more creative than we have been.
D**g Billy Barr in front of a tribunal to answer a few questions.
Come on !
We can’t just flop around like fish out of water.
Now is the time....to.....get....
Serious!

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Milosia2 wrote:

I say Consequences !
Lock up a few , d**g a few in front of a real judge, let them explain this screwed up behavior. Oust a few for insubordination!
Get a little more creative than we have been.
D**g Billy Barr in front of a tribunal to answer a few questions.
Come on !
We can’t just flop around like fish out of water.
Now is the time....to.....get....
Serious!

with out any doubt, that all sound great!!

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

permafrost wrote:

I could not agree with you more..

And what the heck to do about it , I have no idea..

Our problems are with us for a long time..

The first thing to do about it is to reinstate the Fairness Act.
This is what kept faux Nouse away.
Re enact it and Fox is gone.
Since 1980 and Reagan several key things have happened that have caused the problems we are living in. A quick run through may help.
Reagan. Fired the air traffic controllers and set forth the war on unions.
Reagan. Ignored The Sherman Anti Trust Act. This allows Corporations to become as big as they can. Too big to fail.
Reagan. Lifted the Cap on CEO s Pay, allowing them to make as much as they can. This coupled with allowing corporations to also become as big as they can has turned to be deadly.
Reagan. Stopped Corporations from paying into Employee Pension Funds.
Most just abolished the funds and kept all the money.
Reagan. Ignored Glass-Stegell allowing banks to gamble money with the big investment groups.
Reagan. Followed through with the 1980 Vice P**********l Platform of the Libertarian Party brought forth by David Koch. And handed to Reagan with his blessings and unlimited Cash.
So, its not a mystery once you start blaming the Right People.