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Nov 19, 2020 09:13:23   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Yes, from Quora..



Christian Winter
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Updated November 14
Senior Software Architect (2016–present)
How bad will it be if America becomes a socialist country?
How bad will it be if America becomes a socialist country?

About as bad as in Canada, New Zealand or Germany. Look, this “America is becoming socialist” is a boogeyman you were conditioned to react to with fear by Republican propaganda. Nothing Democrats advocate will turn America into the Soviet Union or Venezuela.

Even if Bernie Sanders could enact all of his policies it would only mean that everybody would have affordable health care, that everybody could get a higher education without having to go into debt, and that everybody could actually live a humane life on the wages from one job.

Yes, there would be higher taxes for the wealthy, but health care and education would be cheaper and a lot of people would earn much better. The only people who would pay significantly more would be the really rich, the people who have built a fortune on other people’s misery. And they can easily afford it without having to forego anything.

Now, tell me, what would be so bad about this “socialism”? What are you scared of? Don’t let Republicans cheat you out of a humane life. They are filling their pockets by exploiting you. I would not have that if I were you.

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Nov 19, 2020 09:27:34   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes, from Quora..



Christian Winter
·
Updated November 14
Senior Software Architect (2016–present)
How bad will it be if America becomes a socialist country?
How bad will it be if America becomes a socialist country?

About as bad as in Canada, New Zealand or Germany. Look, this “America is becoming socialist” is a boogeyman you were conditioned to react to with fear by Republican propaganda. Nothing Democrats advocate will turn America into the Soviet Union or Venezuela.

Even if Bernie Sanders could enact all of his policies it would only mean that everybody would have affordable health care, that everybody could get a higher education without having to go into debt, and that everybody could actually live a humane life on the wages from one job.

Yes, there would be higher taxes for the wealthy, but health care and education would be cheaper and a lot of people would earn much better. The only people who would pay significantly more would be the really rich, the people who have built a fortune on other people’s misery. And they can easily afford it without having to forego anything.

Now, tell me, what would be so bad about this “socialism”? What are you scared of? Don’t let Republicans cheat you out of a humane life. They are filling their pockets by exploiting you. I would not have that if I were you.
Yes, from Quora.. br br br br Christian Winter... (show quote)


Congratulations......Goober.

You've been completed dumbed down into assimilation.

Now put on your stupid mask and stay inside.

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Nov 19, 2020 09:46:53   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes, from Quora..



Christian Winter
·
Updated November 14
Senior Software Architect (2016–present)
How bad will it be if America becomes a socialist country?
How bad will it be if America becomes a socialist country?

About as bad as in Canada, New Zealand or Germany. Look, this “America is becoming socialist” is a boogeyman you were conditioned to react to with fear by Republican propaganda. Nothing Democrats advocate will turn America into the Soviet Union or Venezuela.

Even if Bernie Sanders could enact all of his policies it would only mean that everybody would have affordable health care, that everybody could get a higher education without having to go into debt, and that everybody could actually live a humane life on the wages from one job.

Yes, there would be higher taxes for the wealthy, but health care and education would be cheaper and a lot of people would earn much better. The only people who would pay significantly more would be the really rich, the people who have built a fortune on other people’s misery. And they can easily afford it without having to forego anything.

Now, tell me, what would be so bad about this “socialism”? What are you scared of? Don’t let Republicans cheat you out of a humane life. They are filling their pockets by exploiting you. I would not have that if I were you.
Yes, from Quora.. br br br br Christian Winter... (show quote)


Let me try to oversimplify this for you:

Why aren’t you leftists flocking to countries that already offer all the free stuff you are bragging about?

Why have people traditionally flocked to the promise of American liberty? (And conversely why do people NOT tend to flock to socialist utopias?)

When you can understand the answers, maybe then you’ll understand that American exceptionalism isn’t about a nanny-state, and never was. Rather, it’s about believing that people who are given responsibility for their lives, including governing themselves, will lead to more productive, fuller lives than those who are promised a free ride.

This concept seems to totally escape you leftist socialists.

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Nov 19, 2020 09:49:29   #
American Vet
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes, from Quora..



Christian Winter
·
Updated November 14
Senior Software Architect (2016–present)
How bad will it be if America becomes a socialist country?
How bad will it be if America becomes a socialist country?

About as bad as in Canada, New Zealand or Germany. Look, this “America is becoming socialist” is a boogeyman you were conditioned to react to with fear by Republican propaganda. Nothing Democrats advocate will turn America into the Soviet Union or Venezuela.

Even if Bernie Sanders could enact all of his policies it would only mean that everybody would have affordable health care, that everybody could get a higher education without having to go into debt, and that everybody could actually live a humane life on the wages from one job.

Yes, there would be higher taxes for the wealthy, but health care and education would be cheaper and a lot of people would earn much better. The only people who would pay significantly more would be the really rich, the people who have built a fortune on other people’s misery. And they can easily afford it without having to forego anything.

Now, tell me, what would be so bad about this “socialism”? What are you scared of? Don’t let Republicans cheat you out of a humane life. They are filling their pockets by exploiting you. I would not have that if I were you.
Yes, from Quora.. br br br br Christian Winter... (show quote)


Why not give an example where socialism has worked?

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Nov 19, 2020 09:58:58   #
Carol Kelly
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes, from Quora..



Christian Winter
·
Updated November 14
Senior Software Architect (2016–present)
How bad will it be if America becomes a socialist country?
How bad will it be if America becomes a socialist country?

About as bad as in Canada, New Zealand or Germany. Look, this “America is becoming socialist” is a boogeyman you were conditioned to react to with fear by Republican propaganda. Nothing Democrats advocate will turn America into the Soviet Union or Venezuela.

Even if Bernie Sanders could enact all of his policies it would only mean that everybody would have affordable health care, that everybody could get a higher education without having to go into debt, and that everybody could actually live a humane life on the wages from one job.

Yes, there would be higher taxes for the wealthy, but health care and education would be cheaper and a lot of people would earn much better. The only people who would pay significantly more would be the really rich, the people who have built a fortune on other people’s misery. And they can easily afford it without having to forego anything.

Now, tell me, what would be so bad about this “socialism”? What are you scared of? Don’t let Republicans cheat you out of a humane life. They are filling their pockets by exploiting you. I would not have that if I were you.
Yes, from Quora.. br br br br Christian Winter... (show quote)


You need to take another look at Canada and what’s happening there. Also, Germany is not a good example. The Democrats are not offering a “humane”life.
You need to watch something like Newsmax or OAN for a change.

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Nov 19, 2020 10:22:59   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Let me try to oversimplify this for you:

Why aren’t you leftists flocking to countries that already offer all the free stuff you are bragging about?

Why have people traditionally flocked to the promise of American liberty? (And conversely why do people NOT tend to flock to socialist utopias?)

When you can understand the answers, maybe then you’ll understand that American exceptionalism isn’t about a nanny-state, and never was. Rather, it’s about believing that people who are given responsibility for their lives, including governing themselves, will lead to more productive, fuller lives than those who are promised a free ride.

This concept seems to totally escape you leftist socialists.
Let me try to oversimplify this for you: br br Wh... (show quote)



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Nov 19, 2020 10:24:26   #
currahee506
 
The only way "socialism" has worked in the past is when the socialists start, wage, and win a hot war and then make their surviving enemies of the other side their slaves. Every empire in history, including our Federal Reserve (the global private bank administered by JP Morganthau Chase group out of Manhattan which continues to fool us into thinking it is an "American dollar"), is a ruling "socialist-minded group" of "control freaks" that seek their highest good by being generous in letting the "cattle" live in their universe.

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Nov 19, 2020 10:49:22   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes, from Quora..



Christian Winter
·
Updated November 14
Senior Software Architect (2016–present)
How bad will it be if America becomes a socialist country?
How bad will it be if America becomes a socialist country?

About as bad as in Canada, New Zealand or Germany. Look, this “America is becoming socialist” is a boogeyman you were conditioned to react to with fear by Republican propaganda. Nothing Democrats advocate will turn America into the Soviet Union or Venezuela.

Even if Bernie Sanders could enact all of his policies it would only mean that everybody would have affordable health care, that everybody could get a higher education without having to go into debt, and that everybody could actually live a humane life on the wages from one job.

Yes, there would be higher taxes for the wealthy, but health care and education would be cheaper and a lot of people would earn much better. The only people who would pay significantly more would be the really rich, the people who have built a fortune on other people’s misery. And they can easily afford it without having to forego anything.

Now, tell me, what would be so bad about this “socialism”? What are you scared of? Don’t let Republicans cheat you out of a humane life. They are filling their pockets by exploiting you. I would not have that if I were you.
Yes, from Quora.. br br br br Christian Winter... (show quote)


We already have socialist programs; oil and gas industry rebates, regulation free healthcare pricing, blank check defense budgets, lavish pay and benefits for congress members, unlimited travel and golf outings for POTUS.................need I go on?

The old coots in the repub criminal cabal, merely reprised the tried and true cold war " scare em into letting us do what ever the ^#$% we want " routine. The problem for them is............................more than half of eligible voters don't know anything about the cold war.

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Nov 19, 2020 11:24:49   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
Congratulations......Goober.

You've been completed dumbed down into assimilation.

Now put on your stupid mask and stay inside.


How do you like your present “Socialism ” .
Like;
The Military,
Hospitals
Schools,
Fire Departments,
Police,
SBA,
Social Security,
Un Employment insurance ,
Looks like all the stuff you already need are mainly Socialist Entities.
How could you afford to live without them ?
Being charged separately by each of them.
How would a Capitalist Fire Department work for you.
Don’t pay your insurance premium and they let your house burn to the ground

Goober.

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Nov 19, 2020 11:29:10   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
You need to take another look at Canada and what’s happening there. Also, Germany is not a good example. The Democrats are not offering a “humane”life.
You need to watch something like Newsmax or OAN for a change.


Oh Carol.
Don’t drink the. KoolAid.

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Nov 19, 2020 12:24:46   #
American Vet
 
lpnmajor wrote:
We already have socialist programs; oil and gas industry rebates, regulation free healthcare pricing, blank check defense budgets, lavish pay and benefits for congress members, unlimited travel and golf outings for POTUS.................need I go on?


Yes, you do need to go on - the items you mentioned are not ‘socialist programs’.

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Nov 19, 2020 12:27:53   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Let me try to oversimplify this for you:

Why aren’t you leftists flocking to countries that already offer all the free stuff you are bragging about?

Why have people traditionally flocked to the promise of American liberty? (And conversely why do people NOT tend to flock to socialist utopias?)

When you can understand the answers, maybe then you’ll understand that American exceptionalism isn’t about a nanny-state, and never was. Rather, it’s about believing that people who are given responsibility for their lives, including governing themselves, will lead to more productive, fuller lives than those who are promised a free ride.

This concept seems to totally escape you leftist socialists.
Let me try to oversimplify this for you: br br Wh... (show quote)



Seems it is far above your thinking capacity to understand the simple fact that Democrats are not socialists/communists... that is a reuse of long time GOP tactics going back at least to the time of the new deal.

with all the harping about leaving the country by you trump supporters I am surprised you think any rook is left in your belove Putin land..

So why do so many yearn to come to america?? as always, because with our tremendous natural resources, education, technology and infrastructure we have the greatest range of opportunities of nearly any country..

Even with the constant and successful transfer of wealth to the rich, accelerating by the writing of the 70s and the admin of the 80s, we as a country still offer a wonderful chance compared to much of the world..

How ever in your love of a totalitarian state, do feel free to leave at your convenience..

Do not let the door hit you in the butt..
I hope this is a promise kept...
I hope this is a promise kept......

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Nov 19, 2020 12:54:51   #
Dwight Logan
 
Why? Do you really want to go to prison to learn patriotism? Perhaps you want to go there so that you can learn how to become a con artist.
Rather than go to prison why not run for congress as a liberal and yourfellow libs will show you can become wealthy by you using your title ans become wealthy in your first term.

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Nov 19, 2020 13:45:24   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Dwight Logan wrote:
Why? Do you really want to go to prison to learn patriotism? Perhaps you want to go there so that you can learn how to become a con artist.
Rather than go to prison why not run for congress as a liberal and yourfellow libs will show you can become wealthy by you using your title ans become wealthy in your first term.



You ever been told about the quote reply thingy????

You should use it.. who you talking to??

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Nov 19, 2020 13:48:22   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
permafrost wrote:
Seems it is far above your thinking capacity to understand the simple fact that Democrats are not socialists/communists... that is a reuse of long time GOP tactics going back at least to the time of the new deal.

with all the harping about leaving the country by you trump supporters I am surprised you think any rook is left in your belove Putin land..

So why do so many yearn to come to america?? as always, because with our tremendous natural resources, education, technology and infrastructure we have the greatest range of opportunities of nearly any country..

Even with the constant and successful transfer of wealth to the rich, accelerating by the writing of the 70s and the admin of the 80s, we as a country still offer a wonderful chance compared to much of the world..

How ever in your love of a totalitarian state, do feel free to leave at your convenience..

Do not let the door hit you in the butt..
Seems it is far above your thinking capacity to un... (show quote)


Bernie Sanders isn’t a socialist?
Alexandria Ocasio Cortez isn’t a socialist?

Your beloved Schiff couldn’t produce any Putin influence, so why do you keep acting like he did?

You are the one duped.

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