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Oct 29, 2020 15:14:26   #
jwrevagent
 
Seth wrote:
There's another reason the Democrats pushed the Mail-In V****g S**m©. It was responsible for millions of early v**es that might have gone the other way had more Americans known about Biden's corruption.

The mainstream media and the social media folks need to be held accountable for ignoring/censoring the information in an attempt to get Biden elected, and there needs to be a "buyer's remorse" forum set up for those who would have v**ed differently had they known with an opportunity to change their v**es, regardless who "wins," if for no other reason than to get an accurate count rather than one tainted by media e******n i**********e.

It's the media's responsibility to keep the public informed, not to decide whom we elect.
There's another reason the Democrats pushed the Ma... (show quote)


But is it not the choice of the v**er? To v**e over a month early is, under most circumstances, not exactly wise-especially in this e******n, when anything can happen. Most people, I am convinced, do not care enough to wait, do their own research, or even pay attention to what is going on. Perhaps they are simply so tied to a party they cannot think for themselves. No matter what the media says or opines, there is no way to know what is going to happen with this v***s, and v****g in person is the best way to guarantee your v**e is counted and untampered. Taking the easy way out usually results in some pretty difficult endings. But Americans are pretty much too lazy, as long as they get their free stuff, are entertained, and live in comfort, they simply do not put in the effort, or do the work required to retain a republic. And that is where we are. It is no one's fault but the citizens who allowed it to happen. As a citizen of this country for 77 years, it is appalling to watch.

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Oct 29, 2020 15:38:51   #
Seth
 
jwrevagent wrote:
But is it not the choice of the v**er? To v**e over a month early is, under most circumstances, not exactly wise-especially in this e******n, when anything can happen. Most people, I am convinced, do not care enough to wait, do their own research, or even pay attention to what is going on. Perhaps they are simply so tied to a party they cannot think for themselves. No matter what the media says or opines, there is no way to know what is going to happen with this v***s, and v****g in person is the best way to guarantee your v**e is counted and untampered. Taking the easy way out usually results in some pretty difficult endings. But Americans are pretty much too lazy, as long as they get their free stuff, are entertained, and live in comfort, they simply do not put in the effort, or do the work required to retain a republic. And that is where we are. It is no one's fault but the citizens who allowed it to happen. As a citizen of this country for 77 years, it is appalling to watch.
But is it not the choice of the v**er? To v**e ove... (show quote)


I tend to agree, but I also realize that up to a certain time not long ago, the media tended to report all the news as it happened, generally no matter which party it was good or bad for.

This made the media a significant tool in a v**er's determination on who to v**e for. There are likely millions of Americans who still depend on the mainstream media for information who were deceived by said media's boiling frog t***sition to Democratic Party propaganda ministry and who aren't at all acquainted with alternative media.

There are millions of people out there who still trust the credibility of CNN, the NYT, NBC, etc, who don't have the suspicion or the time to fact check, seek out alternative media or do a lot of research, and because of that they are unknowingly at the hands of left wing propagandists.

I have talked to several people here in SoCal who haven't heard or read a thing about the Bidens' exposure re their corrupt practices with China/Russia etc. Those that have tend to get their information on line or from FOX.

There is an unwritten contract between the media and the people that the media keeps the public informed of events through fair, impartial reporting.

This is why I believe that the mainstream media components cherry picking or concealing vital news and information for the sole purpose of determining who should be elected should be seriously dealt with for e******n tampering, and then after and if an explicit warning is not adhered to, such things as press cards and FCC licenses should be revoked.

What the Democratic Party and the mainstream media are doing is f**grantly abusing the First Amendment.

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Oct 29, 2020 15:53:49   #
jwrevagent
 
Seth wrote:
I tend to agree, but I also realize that up to a certain time not long ago, the media tended to report all the news as it happened, generally no matter which party it was good or bad for.

This made the media a significant tool in a v**er's determination on who to v**e for. There are likely millions of Americans who still depend on the mainstream media for information who were deceived by said media's boiling frog t***sition to Democratic Party propaganda ministry and who aren't at all acquainted with alternative media.

There are millions of people out there who still trust the credibility of CNN, the NYT, NBC, etc, who don't have the suspicion or the time to fact check, seek out alternative media or do a lot of research, and because of that they are unknowingly at the hands of left wing propagandists.

I have talked to several people here in SoCal who haven't heard or read a thing about the Bidens' exposure re their corrupt practices with China/Russia etc. Those that have tend to get their information on line or from FOX.

There is an unwritten contract between the media and the people that the media keeps the public informed of events through fair, impartial reporting.

This is why I believe that the mainstream media components cherry picking or concealing vital news and information for the sole purpose of determining who should be elected should be seriously dealt with for e******n tampering, and then after and if an explicit warning is not adhered to, such things as press cards and FCC licenses should be revoked.

What the Democratic Party and the mainstream media are doing is f**grantly abusing the First Amendment.
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What you say is true. But again, if you want freedom, you must be vigilant. It really is that simple, and also that difficult to do. Some people do not have time to look at anything that isn't prepared for them? I suppose they will have all the time in the world to regret their attitude when they awake and discover there is no freedom anymore, and they lose wh**ever assets they had because of taxation or simple takeover by government. See, that is the problem. If they continue to remain ignorant, they will pay the price and it will be too late. If, however, they at least make some effort, they may still pay the price, but will know they did not simply roll over and wait to have their belly scratched, and perhaps will be motivated to fight back. If they do not even know how or why they lost everything, they have no idea how or what they are fighting, so will not fight. I agree that many simply think they do not have the time, and nothing has changed. The onus is still on them.

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Oct 29, 2020 16:40:16   #
Seth
 
jwrevagent wrote:
What you say is true. But again, if you want freedom, you must be vigilant. It really is that simple, and also that difficult to do. Some people do not have time to look at anything that isn't prepared for them? I suppose they will have all the time in the world to regret their attitude when they awake and discover there is no freedom anymore, and they lose wh**ever assets they had because of taxation or simple takeover by government. See, that is the problem. If they continue to remain ignorant, they will pay the price and it will be too late. If, however, they at least make some effort, they may still pay the price, but will know they did not simply roll over and wait to have their belly scratched, and perhaps will be motivated to fight back. If they do not even know how or why they lost everything, they have no idea how or what they are fighting, so will not fight. I agree that many simply think they do not have the time, and nothing has changed. The onus is still on them.
What you say is true. But again, if you want freed... (show quote)


I agree with you, in fact so did Jefferson, but unfortunately many people, as I said, don't know they have any reason to no longer trust the media and believe they are being told the t***h.

Given that, they have no clue that they need to go any further. Unless they have been personally affected by, say, the B*M and A****a r**ts or some other extreme, they simply have no cause to question that they're not being told the t***h by the newspaper or broadcast that they had no reason to doubt for many years.

Even Trump's accomplishments have been explained away by the MSM as an "extension of Obama's presidency," and the media can just as easily attribute Trump's mideast peace deals to some "already existing political condition" or other.

That's why I am patient about telling people the t***h, and on several occasions have succeeded in getting them to do some research. Those folks no longer trust the MSM.

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Oct 29, 2020 16:59:20   #
jwrevagent
 
Seth wrote:
I agree with you, in fact so did Jefferson, but unfortunately many people, as I said, don't know they have any reason to no longer trust the media and believe they are being told the t***h.

Given that, they have no clue that they need to go any further. Unless they have been personally affected by, say, the B*M and A****a r**ts or some other extreme, they simply have no cause to question that they're not being told the t***h by the newspaper or broadcast that they had no reason to doubt for many years.

Even Trump's accomplishments have been explained away by the MSM as an "extension of Obama's presidency," and the media can just as easily attribute Trump's mideast peace deals to some "already existing political condition" or other.

That's why I am patient about telling people the t***h, and on several occasions have succeeded in getting them to do some research. Those folks no longer trust the MSM.
I agree with you, in fact so did Jefferson, but un... (show quote)


Good for you and for them. I too sometimes indicate that perhaps some one should look at some alternative to the MSM just to see what it is about-they do not have to like/believe/accept anything, but they probably should look at alternatives before making one of the most important decision they have as they choose our leaders. Imagine only YOUR v**e counted-would you not want to know everything you could about the person, his family and his background as well as his stance on policy? I am sure that if most people approached it as if it were only THEIR choice that mattered, they would be motivated to do some checking. Ater all, you have to live with your choice.

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Oct 29, 2020 17:20:51   #
Seth
 
jwrevagent wrote:
Good for you and for them. I too sometimes indicate that perhaps some one should look at some alternative to the MSM just to see what it is about-they do not have to like/believe/accept anything, but they probably should look at alternatives before making one of the most important decision they have as they choose our leaders. Imagine only YOUR v**e counted-would you not want to know everything you could about the person, his family and his background as well as his stance on policy? I am sure that if most people approached it as if it were only THEIR choice that mattered, they would be motivated to do some checking. Ater all, you have to live with your choice.
Good for you and for them. I too sometimes indicat... (show quote)


That's why I've always been one to look before I leap.

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