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Oct 18, 2020 16:36:18   #
Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge
 
Rose42 wrote:
That's another pattern - the "you're picking on me" mentality.


You aren't picking on me. Hypocrisy is not the same as picking.

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Oct 18, 2020 16:38:27   #
Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge
 
jwrevagent wrote:
Me neither, as a Christian, I do not want ANY religion taught in schools, thank you very much-however, humanism seems to be rampant in our schools, making humans their god, so I suppose it is inevitable, but any established recognized religion such as Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhism or Zoroastrianism, Pantheism, or Wicca or Bahai should be taught in public schools other than as part of history-as in the Crusades, or the Protestant Reformation which had profound effect of modern history. Public schools should be separate from religious schools, and religious schools should not be funded by taxpayers......we have gone pretty far afield from that in this country, though, for sure.
Me neither, as a Christian, I do not want ANY reli... (show quote)

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I agree very much with you.

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Oct 18, 2020 16:44:17   #
Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge
 
TexaCan wrote:
Thank you! I appreciate that!😊


I can appreciate the long term effects of such a traumatic experience. I have a similar story, but for now I'm keeping it to myself. I know I am still recovering from it.

I may be a liberal, but I am also a decent person. No one has to steamroll anyone else.

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Oct 18, 2020 16:44:19   #
Rose42
 
lindajoy wrote:
This is outstanding!!! Thank You for posting it.. It also presents a continued dilemma I have from Experience..I must also say I am right of choice but do NOT support a******n as a-contraceptive measure not in the least... I support right of choice because to throw such away “ the right” is to limit us in our right of privacy, choice and leaves us suffering the dictation of others” in what we, as women can or can not do.” I had to make a choice, right or wrong and I don’t want to ever give up that right...That is why...

On a personal level I had to have an a******n, partial as they called it, as I was miscarrying and bleeding a lot, in my 5th month.. I don’t share this much because even to this day I “ wonder” about that precious little girl. Along with wondering if I had continued to fight against the Dr.s strong recommendation of doing it would she have survived?? Would I?? Its a burden that never leaves you, Tex and so right you are about the depression women have even later on in life..I wish I hadn’t insisted on holding her, smelling her scent that remains within and seeing those little eyes closed instead of alive and dancing with that special sparkle only a new born can shine upon you...

Anyway, I strongly support adoption and wish more was done to educate girls of its option instead... For the younger girls I have helped in women's shelters (abusive partner) you can not imagine how often adoption is raised since “ they don't want that child or children anymore...” They keep them because “ I gotta live too and my babydaddy ain’t doen s**t” or “ my mom ain’t raisen no more kids“... Enough right there in those shelters that could give that child or children a better life yet don’t see that at all....Some even loose their child for x amount of time to get themselves drug free, stable, off probation, away from the abusive partner, wh**ever and off that little one goes to a foster home..They do not deserve that, some most likely to be shipped back n forth.. It makes me friggen crazy with anger for that little one or them..
The legal system is just as bad it doesn’t think of the children it thinks of the parents rights only! Until the issue of child neglection is well established by then too late!!!What a vicious circle it is. The child does need a voice and if not from us, then who??? God Bless them all...🙏

Well I’m sorry I got off on a tangent didn’t mean to do that. This subject just hits home...
This is outstanding!!! Thank You for posting it.. ... (show quote)


Don't be sorry. Wow. You hit on something people don't want to address. I'm sorry you had to go through that and are still going through it.

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Oct 18, 2020 16:44:56   #
Rose42
 
Abbie Hoffman wrote:
You aren't picking on me. Hypocrisy is not the same as picking.


I know I'm not picking on you "Abbie".

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Oct 18, 2020 16:53:43   #
MeadowFields
 
TexaCan wrote:
I have no intention to ever separate my political view from my Christian beliefs! Last time I checked, I’m free to believe as I choose! I did not say that all Democrats are Godless creatures or that all Republicans are Christians! Don’t presume to be able to read my mind!

I said exactly what I meant! V**e the Bible! The Democrats support a******n, marriage of same sex partners, more government control and hand-outs, little by little persecution of Christians, etc. Those are not Biblical beliefs!

If the Democrats get their way, a******n will be made legal up to full term babies! How unchristian can that get?👿

The Republican Platform is more Christian than the Democrate Platform..........That’s how SIMPLE I can get!
I have no intention to ever separate my political ... (show quote)


I just can't resist replying to your last sentence.
Trump is the most irreligious President in my lifetime and he heads up the Republican party.
I think even Jesus would agree with me.

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Oct 18, 2020 17:28:03   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Abbie Hoffman wrote:
I do agree with Emilia's meme comment.

The Ivory Tower leans left.

I am highly educated.
It appears that you are not as highly educated as you think you are.

First off, you rely on the tweets of two other people, neither of whom are highly educated, to back up your argument. The opinions expressed in both tweets are seriously flawed.

Emilia's tweet - under the 1st amendment of the Constitution of the United States, the free practice of religion applies to all faiths. Sharia Law, on the other hand, prohibits the free practice of any other faith but Islam. Our Constitution does not establish a theocratic government, Sharia Law does.

Max Berger's tweet - Apart from the r****t implications in that tweet, Max has no clue. I doubt if you or your two examples of brilliance have ever actually studied the Constitution. If you had, you would know the House of Representatives is the people's house, members are elected by the people of their respective states. (Article I, Section 2, paragraph 1)

OTH, Originally, Senators were chosen by the state legislatures. (Article I, Section 3, paragraph 1) the Senate was supposed to represent the state legislatures.

Federalist #62 explains: HAVING examined the constitution of the House of Representatives, and answered such of the objections against it as seemed to merit notice, I enter next on the examination of the Senate.

The heads into which this member of the government may be considered are: I. The qualification of senators; II. The appointment of them by the State legislatures; III. The e******y of representation in the Senate; IV. The number of senators, and the term for which they are to be elected; V. The powers vested in the Senate.

I. The qualifications proposed for senators, as distinguished from those of representatives, consist in a more advanced age and a longer period of citizenship. A senator must be thirty years of age at least; as a representative must be twenty-five. And the former must have been a citizen nine years; as seven years are required for the latter.

The propriety of these distinctions is explained by the nature of the senatorial trust, which, requiring greater extent of information and tability of character, requires at the same time that the senator should have reached a period of life most likely to supply these advantages; and which, participating immediately in t***sactions with foreign nations, ought to be exercised by none who are not thoroughly weaned from the prepossessions and habits incident to foreign birth and education. . .


Put simply, Representatives, as the name implies, are chosen by the people to represent the interests of the people of the state. Senators were chosen by the state legislature to represent the interest of the state.

Beginning in 1826 attempts were made to amend Article I, Section 3, paragraph 1 intended to put the e******n of senators in the hands of the people. By the 1890s, support for the introduction of direct e******n for the Senate had substantially increased. Congress passed the 17th amendment on May 13, 1912

Then, in 1913, along came the father of progressive socialism, the democrat POTUS who immediately waged a campaign to push congress into convincing the states to ratify the amendment. They did so on April 8, 1913.

The 17th amendment effectively undermined the purpose of the US Senate and turned the entire congress into mob rule.

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Oct 18, 2020 17:34:50   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
MeadowFields wrote:
I just can't resist replying to your last sentence.
Trump is the most irreligious President in my lifetime and he heads up the Republican party.
I think even Jesus would agree with me.
How do you account for president Trump's speech on religious freedom to the UN general assembly and his initiative to protect religious freedom for all faiths, not only in the US, but world wide? That is not the work of an "irreligious" man.

The POTUS is the only public officer elected by ALL American v**ers, not by a party or a state or a movement.
He is the leader of the nation, not the Republican party.

Some shallow thinking there, dude, no surprise that you are seriously misinformed.

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Oct 18, 2020 17:40:54   #
Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
It appears that you are not as highly educated as you think you are.

First off, you rely on the tweets of two other people, neither of whom are highly educated, to back up your argument. The opinions expressed in both tweets are seriously flawed.

Emilia's tweet - under the 1st amendment of the Constitution of the United States, the free practice of religion applies to all faiths. Sharia Law, on the other hand, prohibits the free practice of any other faith but Islam. Our Constitution does not establish a theocratic government, Sharia Law does.

Max Berger's tweet - Apart from the r****t implications in that tweet, Max has no clue. I doubt if you or your two examples of brilliance have ever actually studied the Constitution. If you had, you would know the House of Representatives is the people's house, members are elected by the people of their respective states. (Article I, Section 2, paragraph 1)

OTH, Originally, Senators were chosen by the state legislatures. (Article I, Section 3, paragraph 1) the Senate was supposed to represent the state legislatures.

Federalist #62 explains: HAVING examined the constitution of the House of Representatives, and answered such of the objections against it as seemed to merit notice, I enter next on the examination of the Senate.

The heads into which this member of the government may be considered are: I. The qualification of senators; II. The appointment of them by the State legislatures; III. The e******y of representation in the Senate; IV. The number of senators, and the term for which they are to be elected; V. The powers vested in the Senate.

I. The qualifications proposed for senators, as distinguished from those of representatives, consist in a more advanced age and a longer period of citizenship. A senator must be thirty years of age at least; as a representative must be twenty-five. And the former must have been a citizen nine years; as seven years are required for the latter.

The propriety of these distinctions is explained by the nature of the senatorial trust, which, requiring greater extent of information and tability of character, requires at the same time that the senator should have reached a period of life most likely to supply these advantages; and which, participating immediately in t***sactions with foreign nations, ought to be exercised by none who are not thoroughly weaned from the prepossessions and habits incident to foreign birth and education. . .


Put simply, Representatives, as the name implies, are chosen by the people to represent the interests of the people of the state. Senators were chosen by the state legislature to represent the interest of the state.

Beginning in 1826 attempts were made to amend Article I, Section 3, paragraph 1 intended to put the e******n of senators in the hands of the people. By the 1890s, support for the introduction of direct e******n for the Senate had substantially increased. Congress passed the 17th amendment on May 13, 1912

Then, in 1913, along came the father of progressive socialism, the democrat POTUS who immediately waged a campaign to push congress into convincing the states to ratify the amendment. They did so on April 8, 1913.

The 17th amendment effectively undermined the purpose of the US Senate and turned the entire congress into mob rule.
It appears that you are not as highly educated as ... (show quote)


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TL:DR I'm not insecure about my education.



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Oct 18, 2020 17:47:47   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Abbie Hoffman wrote:
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TL:DR I'm not insecure about my education.
I didn't say you were insecure about your education, I said you don't know WTF you are talking about. That meme is just another ridiculous attempt to undermine our constitution. It is the product of someone who has no freaking clue how our unique system of government functions.

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Oct 18, 2020 17:51:30   #
Rose42
 
Abbie Hoffman wrote:
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TL:DR I'm not insecure about my education.


Sure you are. This isn't the first time you've mentioned it.

And that is another juvenile meme. Why is pretty obvious.

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Oct 18, 2020 18:20:27   #
MeadowFields
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
How do you account for president Trump's speech on religious freedom to the UN general assembly and his initiative to protect religious freedom for all faiths, not only in the US, but world wide? That is not the work of an "irreligious" man.

The POTUS is the only public officer elected by ALL American v**ers, not by a party or a state or a movement.
He is the leader of the nation, not the Republican party.

Some shallow thinking there, dude, no surprise that you are seriously misinformed.
How do you account for president Trump's speech on... (show quote)


It was the Republican party that nominated Trump to run on their ticket and the POTUS is the party chief who sets agendas and represents their ideals. Hasn't he been divorced twice and declared before the world how he grabs women by the (fill in the blank) and traffics in prostitutes. Gimme a break!

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Oct 18, 2020 18:22:03   #
Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge
 
MeadowFields wrote:
It was the Republican party that nominated Trump to run on their ticket and the POTUS is the party chief who sets agendas and represents their ideals. Hasn't he been divorced twice and declared before the world how he grabs women by the (fill in the blank) and traffics in prostitutes. Gimme a break!

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Pretty much

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Oct 18, 2020 18:25:03   #
Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge
 
Rose42 wrote:
Sure you are. This isn't the first time you've mentioned it.

And that is another juvenile meme. Why is pretty obvious.

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Why do you play such an ugly game? Are you trying to make me leave? What is your end game. FYI, NO ONE gives a crap.



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Oct 18, 2020 22:20:46   #
Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge
 
lindajoy wrote:
This is outstanding!!! Thank You for posting it.. It also presents a continued dilemma I have from Experience..I must also say I am right of choice but do NOT support a******n as a-contraceptive measure not in the least... I support right of choice because to throw such away “ the right” is to limit us in our right of privacy, choice and leaves us suffering the dictation of others” in what we, as women can or can not do.” I had to make a choice, right or wrong and I don’t want to ever give up that right...That is why...

On a personal level I had to have an a******n, partial as they called it, as I was miscarrying and bleeding a lot, in my 5th month.. I don’t share this much because even to this day I “ wonder” about that precious little girl. Along with wondering if I had continued to fight against the Dr.s strong recommendation of doing it would she have survived?? Would I?? Its a burden that never leaves you, Tex and so right you are about the depression women have even later on in life..I wish I hadn’t insisted on holding her, smelling her scent that remains within and seeing those little eyes closed instead of alive and dancing with that special sparkle only a new born can shine upon you...

Anyway, I strongly support adoption and wish more was done to educate girls of its option instead... For the younger girls I have helped in women's shelters (abusive partner) you can not imagine how often adoption is raised since “ they don't want that child or children anymore...” They keep them because “ I gotta live too and my babydaddy ain’t doen s**t” or “ my mom ain’t raisen no more kids“... Enough right there in those shelters that could give that child or children a better life yet don’t see that at all....Some even loose their child for x amount of time to get themselves drug free, stable, off probation, away from the abusive partner, wh**ever and off that little one goes to a foster home..They do not deserve that, some most likely to be shipped back n forth.. It makes me friggen crazy with anger for that little one or them..
The legal system is just as bad it doesn’t think of the children it thinks of the parents rights only! Until the issue of child neglection is well established by then too late!!!What a vicious circle it is. The child does need a voice and if not from us, then who??? God Bless them all...🙏

Well I’m sorry I got off on a tangent didn’t mean to do that. This subject just hits home...
This is outstanding!!! Thank You for posting it.. ... (show quote)


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Much wisdom, Linda. You are very wise. Thank you.

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