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Oct 16, 2020 12:19:42   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
Did you ever run up a major medical expense?


Have you ever wondered why the expenses are sooo major?

We already have a corruption crisis in the medical industries and services and another frelling layer will fix it?



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Oct 16, 2020 13:32:03   #
Army
 
Go Go Trump be nice if he could get his cabinet in there with all the crooks & deep state , spies goes show what one man can do by himself Go Trump ! Like pulling Weeds in a Garden till they k**l them for good they just keep coming .

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Oct 16, 2020 14:18:05   #
Cuda2020
 
Army wrote:
Oboma Care is a joke an ment to make healthcare c*******t even the guy that wrote it said it was write do know one could understand it .The cost kept going up every year an the insurence company's weren't getting paid by the government ( were get up ) a******n taxes were in it to ( for all you baby k**lers ) it was only post help few million 9 or 10 million but was being forced on tens of millions even more as your only insurence as the goverment hijacked to make it everyone permanent only healthcare intention . Thank God Trump stoped the mandate but McCane the Trader would do away with it all as should be . The money was all funneled through the government going to the Democrat Party an who knows where Evil doings . Not to mention it's unconstitutional to for ce a mandated insurance on everyone . Seriously let alone make you pay for a******ns . If they will k**l a baby in the womb they will sure as Hell k**l you to.
Oboma Care is a joke an ment to make healthcare c*... (show quote)


What a ludicrous post, get help.

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Oct 16, 2020 14:21:49   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
What a ludicrous post, get help.


What is the most ludicrous thing about it?

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Oct 16, 2020 14:24:45   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
What a ludicrous post, get help.


Whether you believe or not Obamacare was never truly about making healthcare more affordable. It was about control. Period. both parties like to control the populace. This was simply another way to do it. Expanding healthcare to cover pre-existing conditions could have been done much easier than the large, one size fits all ACA. Both parties put forward intrusive, expensive healthcare platforms because both are partially owned by the healthcare industry and or big pharma.

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Oct 16, 2020 14:37:05   #
Cuda2020
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Bulls**t. I'm not paying premiums to cover a Lamborghini or a million dollar estate.

The government has no business in providing healthcare insurance and mandating blanket coverage for all citizens. The establishment clause of our Constitution, commonly known as The Preamble states the government will PROMOTE the general welfare, not PROVIDE it.

Each individual should be allowed to tailor his or her coverage based on their own particular heath issues and economic circumstances, they should be allowed to choose their own carrier, and they should be allowed to see their own doctor. Same goes for insurance on vehicles and homes.
Bulls**t. I'm not paying premiums to cover a Lambo... (show quote)


Apparently you don't see the dilemma, that's the problem. Let me explain, people who get sick, let's say they get cancer from the toxins they drank in their corrupted water from fracking and can't afford the $1,200.00 a pill remedy, what then? But him on a raft and cut him loose? Nice.

The government never supplies insurance, where'd you'd get that crazy notion? The only thing the government collects money on is taxes. Making money is for the individuals, whether collectively in a corporation, a company or alone, in this wonderful free market of ours. All the ACA did was supply a market place, and help in supplementing some poor folk. Is that a problem for you? Where's your Christian charity, or would you rather they just die?

I know your against a******n, how are you for people giving birth to children with birth defects and not enough coverage because they had to get the cheapest available. I'd say your theory has some holes in it. One word here, compassion.

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Oct 16, 2020 14:42:02   #
WEBCO
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
Actually, I did have it 5 years ago - for a year.

I was previously covered as a spouse by my wife's employer based group health plan. That employer went out of business, the health plan cancelled, left me up a creek. My wife was age 65, able to enroll in medicare which Does Not take pre existing conditions into account.

I was 64, not eligible for medicare, needed personal coverage for a year. Since I had pre existing conditions, Obamacare enabled me to buy coverage at a standard rate with no exclusions.

Obamacare worked for me EXACTLY AS ADVERTISED.
Actually, I did have it 5 years ago - for a year.... (show quote)

Glad it worked for you. For my family of 4 my premium was roughly 40% of my income with a $12,000 deductible. Lost my employer insurance, and hours worked, to escape the mandates. Obamacare took away my insurance(which I liked and could afford),took away hours I could have worked(taking money out of my pocket-that I needed), left me with no viable insurance options, and then took more money out of my pocket through its unconstitutional tax...I mean fine.

That's how it "worked" for over 30,000,000 Americans. Hope that answers your question.

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Oct 16, 2020 14:53:22   #
Cuda2020
 
JFlorio wrote:
Whether you believe or not Obamacare was never truly about making healthcare more affordable. It was about control. Period. both parties like to control the populace. This was simply another way to do it. Expanding healthcare to cover pre-existing conditions could have been done much easier than the large, one size fits all ACA. Both parties put forward intrusive, expensive healthcare platforms because both are partially owned by the healthcare industry and or big pharma.


No it wasn't, and I can tell you first hand. When people have never really been sick they don't know the realities of it, the same with our court system. So don't give me your period crap, if it weren't for the ACA we would've been terminated from our carrier, from having reached it's cap which isn't hard to do with cancer. We had already received the notice from them, and by the grace of God the ACA had then just kicked in.

You can get these stories from thousands if not millions of people, especially people with children and titled as pre-conditions after birth.

I'll agree some reforms are probably needed but mostly in the cost American's are paying for pharmaceuticals compared to other countries, we're being the patsy to them, it's outrageous, and that should bring down insurance costs, so would more people being insured.

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Oct 16, 2020 14:58:18   #
Cuda2020
 
WEBCO wrote:
Glad it worked for you. For my family of 4 my premium was roughly 40% of my income with a $12,000 deductible. Lost my employer insurance, and hours worked, to escape the mandates. Obamacare took away my insurance(which I liked and could afford),took away hours I could have worked(taking money out of my pocket-that I needed), left me with no viable insurance options, and then took more money out of my pocket through its unconstitutional tax...I mean fine.

That's how it "worked" for over 30,000,000 Americans. Hope that answers your question.
Glad it worked for you. For my family of 4 my prem... (show quote)


Obama care didn't take away your insurance, they did it to themselves by being bogus and not meeting the minimum standards, they were ripping you off and you didn't know it, you wouldn't not until you needed coverage, that's how it worked for these fraudulent companies for years.

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Oct 16, 2020 14:59:27   #
Cuda2020
 
BigMike wrote:
What is the most ludicrous thing about it?


No most, all of it.

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Oct 16, 2020 15:07:56   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Well, I’ve lived it so I know. Most private plans and ACA don’t compare to employer plans. I know. I’ve had all three. What part of me saying pre existing should be covered you missed. Could have been done without the ACA.
Barracuda2020 wrote:
No it wasn't, and I can tell you first hand. When people have never really been sick they don't know the realities of it, the same with our court system. So don't give me your period crap, if it weren't for the ACA we would've been terminated from our carrier, from having reached it's cap which isn't hard to do with cancer. We had already received the notice from them, and by the grace of God the ACA had then just kicked in.

You can get these stories from thousands if not millions of people, especially people with children and titled as pre-conditions after birth.

I'll agree some reforms are probably needed but mostly in the cost American's are paying for pharmaceuticals compared to other countries, we're being the patsy to them, it's outrageous, and that should bring down insurance costs, so would more people being insured.
No it wasn't, and I can tell you first hand. When ... (show quote)

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Oct 16, 2020 15:16:43   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Apparently you don't see the dilemma, that's the problem. Let me explain, people who get sick, let's say they get cancer from the toxins they drank in their corrupted water from fracking and can't afford the $1,200.00 a pill remedy, what then? But him on a raft and cut him loose? Nice.

The government never supplies insurance, where'd you'd get that crazy notion? The only thing the government collects money on is taxes. Making money is for the individuals, whether collectively in a corporation, a company or alone, in this wonderful free market of ours. All the ACA did was supply a market place, and help in supplementing some poor folk. Is that a problem for you? Where's your Christian charity, or would you rather they just die?

I know your against a******n, how are you for people giving birth to children with birth defects and not enough coverage because they had to get the cheapest available. I'd say your theory has some holes in it. One word here, compassion.
Apparently you don't see the dilemma, that's the p... (show quote)


What a bunch of nonsense. And how many pages was ACA? It was so long and complicated that not even the democrats read it before v****g. Remember "we have to pass it to find out what is in it?" And you condense it down to "All ACA did was supply a market place." Wow. We need you working in DC to help them write simpler legislation.
As to your last comment, Murder is murder. Do we excuse a k**ler because he shot an old man in a wheelchair because, after all, we can't see how his life was worth living? What about your example? Why DON'T we go ahead and k**l off all the crippled and deformed. They are, following your logic, an expensive burden and problematic. Preborn, postborn, what moral difference does it make? Maybe your OPP name should be Sanger instead of Barracuda.

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Oct 16, 2020 15:20:57   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
It does this all the time. Just regurgitate talking points. No real knowledge.
RandyBrian wrote:
What a bunch of nonsense. And how many pages was ACA? It was so long and complicated that not even the democrats read it before v****g. Remember "we have to pass it to find out what is in it?" And you condense it down to "All ACA did was supply a market place." Wow. We need you working in DC to help them write simpler legislation.
As to your last comment, Murder is murder. Do we excuse a k**ler because he shot an old man in a wheelchair because, after all, we can't see how his life was worth living? What about your example? Why DON'T we go ahead and k**l off all the crippled and deformed. They are, following your logic, an expensive burden and problematic. Preborn, postborn, what moral difference does it make? Maybe your OPP name should be Sanger instead of Barracuda.
What a bunch of nonsense. And how many pages was ... (show quote)

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Oct 16, 2020 16:12:47   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Army wrote:
Good cause it's the t***h . T***h hurts


Liberals find it especially painful. That's why they avoid it whenever possible.

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Oct 16, 2020 16:14:57   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
No it wasn't, and I can tell you first hand. When people have never really been sick they don't know the realities of it, the same with our court system. So don't give me your period crap, if it weren't for the ACA we would've been terminated from our carrier, from having reached it's cap which isn't hard to do with cancer. We had already received the notice from them, and by the grace of God the ACA had then just kicked in.

You can get these stories from thousands if not millions of people, especially people with children and titled as pre-conditions after birth.

I'll agree some reforms are probably needed but mostly in the cost American's are paying for pharmaceuticals compared to other countries, we're being the patsy to them, it's outrageous, and that should bring down insurance costs, so would more people being insured.
No it wasn't, and I can tell you first hand. When ... (show quote)


Nothing the government is in charge of ever gets cheaper. Not unless there is a corresponding degradation of wh**ever service they purport to provide.

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