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Oct 18, 2020 10:38:01   #
TexaCan Loc: Heart in W Texas - feet on the beach in Al.
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Oh my my Texa, again jumping on the conspiracy theory platform without doing any real research into reality. Why don't you try reading a few of these just to get yourself adjusted to the real world a little bit. The Giuliani-Hunter Biden story is about Giuliani being taken to the cleaners by Russian agents who planted this crap. He actually got most of this directly from a known Russian agent, so yeah its a bunch of fake news trash, the kind people like you seem to fall for so easily. Just why is that? Just what is it in your makeup that allows you to constantly be fooled and duped by Russians and others out to harm this country. You still don't get it and at this point its obvious you never will. Foolish to be fooled so often my dear. So sad to be you.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/17/fbi-probes-possible-russia-link-hunter-biden-data-trump-ally-giuliani/3661895001/

"When a New York tabloid published the alleged contents of a computer hard drive purporting to document the Ukrainian and Chinese business activities of Hunter Biden, the newspaper cast the information as a "smoking gun."

Enter the FBI.

Less than three weeks before one of the most contentious presidential campaigns in history, federal authorities are investigating whether the material supplied to the New York Post by Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump's personal lawyer, is part of a smoke bomb of disinformation pushed by Russia.

After months of investigation, two Republican-led Senate committees unveiled a report in September that found no evidence of wrongdoing or corrupt actions by the former vice president in connection with his son Hunter's business dealings in Ukraine."

https://www.businessinsider.com/spies-hunter-biden-emails-trump-giuliani-vulnerable-russian-intelligence-2020-10

"As Business Insider has previously reported, there is no evidence that these claims hold merit, and they've been debunked by intelligence assessments, media reports, congressional investigations, and witness testimony.

Regardless, the Biden-Ukraine conspiracy theory was turbocharged this week, after The New York Post published a widely discredited story purporting to show "smoking-gun" emails between Hunter Biden and a senior Burisma executive about setting up a meeting with Joe Biden when he was vice president in 2015.

The story was written by a former producer for the Fox News show "Hannity," and Giuliani gave the conservative tabloid the emails featured in the story. Shortly after, it was reported that federal authorities are investigating if the emails were part of a foreign influence operation."

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924506867/analysis-questionable-n-y-post-scoop-driven-by-ex-hannity-producer-giuliani

"It is a classic moment in the weeks before Election Day: a news outlet runs a front-page exclusive promising scandalous revelations about a big-ticket candidate.

This week, the New York Post published a story based on what it says are emails โ€” "smoking gun" emails, it calls them โ€” sent by a Ukrainian business executive to the son of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden. The story fits snugly into a narrative from President Trump and his allies that Hunter Biden's zealous pursuit of business ties abroad also compromised the former vice president.

Yet this was a story marked more by red flags than investigative rigor.

To start, the emails have not been verified as authentic. They were said to have been extracted from a computer assumed โ€” but not proven โ€” to have belonged to the younger Biden. They were said to have been given to the Post by Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who is known for making discredited claims about the Bidens.

The venue is also suspect. The pro-Trump New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch, a steady supporter of the president despite recently casting doubt on Trump's reelection prospects. The lead reporter was a former producer for Sean Hannity, Trump's best friend on his favorite news network, Fox News, also controlled by the Murdochs. And the story asserted the existence of a meeting absent any documentation that it actually occurred. (The Biden campaign says the tabloid never sought comment on the veracity of the claims.)

The context also screams for caution: U.S. officials say Russian disinformation campaigns have sought to keep Hunter Biden's business dealings in Ukraine in the public eye. According to The Washington Post, intelligence officials warned the White House last year that Russian operatives had sought to give misinformation to Giuliani to be used against the Bidens. And NBC is now reporting that the FBI is investigating whether the material in the New York Post story originated in a foreign power's disinformation campaign."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-post-story/

"Giuliani apparently held the information for months and released it less than three weeks before the election. Giuliani has long been involved in efforts by the president and his allies to highlight Hunter Biden's work overseas to damage Joe Biden and boost Mr. Trump's reelection campaign, and in 2019 met with a Ukrainian lawmaker who has been deemed an "active Russian agent" by the U.S. government.

In December 2019, National Security Advisor chief Robert O'Brien conveyed concerns to President Trump that Giuliani was being targeted by a Russian disinformation campaign aimed at discrediting Joe Biden, current and former advisors in the Trump administration told CBS News' Paula Reid. Giuliani's meeting with the Ukrainian lawmaker - Andriy Derkach - was one of the reasons for those concerns.

So yeah, I'm pretty sure who the real criminal is here. Expect to see both the Trumpet and his scumbag lawyer Giuliani residing in a cell for most of the remainder of their lives. Something I will be very happy to see indeed!
Oh my my Texa, again jumping on the conspiracy the... (show quote)


Time will tell.......it always does! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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Oct 18, 2020 10:40:13   #
TexaCan Loc: Heart in W Texas - feet on the beach in Al.
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
I'm Rumi, I confess


Nope! I believe your identity has already been determined! ๐Ÿ‘

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Oct 18, 2020 14:08:11   #
Barracuda2020
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Oh my my Texa, again jumping on the conspiracy theory platform without doing any real research into reality. Why don't you try reading a few of these just to get yourself adjusted to the real world a little bit. The Giuliani-Hunter Biden story is about Giuliani being taken to the cleaners by Russian agents who planted this crap. He actually got most of this directly from a known Russian agent, so yeah its a bunch of fake news trash, the kind people like you seem to fall for so easily. Just why is that? Just what is it in your makeup that allows you to constantly be fooled and duped by Russians and others out to harm this country. You still don't get it and at this point its obvious you never will. Foolish to be fooled so often my dear. So sad to be you.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/17/fbi-probes-possible-russia-link-hunter-biden-data-trump-ally-giuliani/3661895001/

"When a New York tabloid published the alleged contents of a computer hard drive purporting to document the Ukrainian and Chinese business activities of Hunter Biden, the newspaper cast the information as a "smoking gun."

Enter the FBI.

Less than three weeks before one of the most contentious presidential campaigns in history, federal authorities are investigating whether the material supplied to the New York Post by Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump's personal lawyer, is part of a smoke bomb of disinformation pushed by Russia.

After months of investigation, two Republican-led Senate committees unveiled a report in September that found no evidence of wrongdoing or corrupt actions by the former vice president in connection with his son Hunter's business dealings in Ukraine."

https://www.businessinsider.com/spies-hunter-biden-emails-trump-giuliani-vulnerable-russian-intelligence-2020-10

"As Business Insider has previously reported, there is no evidence that these claims hold merit, and they've been debunked by intelligence assessments, media reports, congressional investigations, and witness testimony.

Regardless, the Biden-Ukraine conspiracy theory was turbocharged this week, after The New York Post published a widely discredited story purporting to show "smoking-gun" emails between Hunter Biden and a senior Burisma executive about setting up a meeting with Joe Biden when he was vice president in 2015.

The story was written by a former producer for the Fox News show "Hannity," and Giuliani gave the conservative tabloid the emails featured in the story. Shortly after, it was reported that federal authorities are investigating if the emails were part of a foreign influence operation."

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924506867/analysis-questionable-n-y-post-scoop-driven-by-ex-hannity-producer-giuliani

"It is a classic moment in the weeks before Election Day: a news outlet runs a front-page exclusive promising scandalous revelations about a big-ticket candidate.

This week, the New York Post published a story based on what it says are emails โ€” "smoking gun" emails, it calls them โ€” sent by a Ukrainian business executive to the son of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden. The story fits snugly into a narrative from President Trump and his allies that Hunter Biden's zealous pursuit of business ties abroad also compromised the former vice president.

Yet this was a story marked more by red flags than investigative rigor.

To start, the emails have not been verified as authentic. They were said to have been extracted from a computer assumed โ€” but not proven โ€” to have belonged to the younger Biden. They were said to have been given to the Post by Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who is known for making discredited claims about the Bidens.

The venue is also suspect. The pro-Trump New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch, a steady supporter of the president despite recently casting doubt on Trump's reelection prospects. The lead reporter was a former producer for Sean Hannity, Trump's best friend on his favorite news network, Fox News, also controlled by the Murdochs. And the story asserted the existence of a meeting absent any documentation that it actually occurred. (The Biden campaign says the tabloid never sought comment on the veracity of the claims.)

The context also screams for caution: U.S. officials say Russian disinformation campaigns have sought to keep Hunter Biden's business dealings in Ukraine in the public eye. According to The Washington Post, intelligence officials warned the White House last year that Russian operatives had sought to give misinformation to Giuliani to be used against the Bidens. And NBC is now reporting that the FBI is investigating whether the material in the New York Post story originated in a foreign power's disinformation campaign."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-post-story/

"Giuliani apparently held the information for months and released it less than three weeks before the election. Giuliani has long been involved in efforts by the president and his allies to highlight Hunter Biden's work overseas to damage Joe Biden and boost Mr. Trump's reelection campaign, and in 2019 met with a Ukrainian lawmaker who has been deemed an "active Russian agent" by the U.S. government.

In December 2019, National Security Advisor chief Robert O'Brien conveyed concerns to President Trump that Giuliani was being targeted by a Russian disinformation campaign aimed at discrediting Joe Biden, current and former advisors in the Trump administration told CBS News' Paula Reid. Giuliani's meeting with the Ukrainian lawmaker - Andriy Derkach - was one of the reasons for those concerns.

So yeah, I'm pretty sure who the real criminal is here. Expect to see both the Trumpet and his scumbag lawyer Giuliani residing in a cell for most of the remainder of their lives. Something I will be very happy to see indeed!
Oh my my Texa, again jumping on the conspiracy the... (show quote)


Good post, spot on

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Oct 18, 2020 14:08:49   #
Barracuda2020
 
TexaCan wrote:
Nope! I believe your identity has already been determined! ๐Ÿ‘


Bahaha, yep LMAO Thanks for the laugh good buddy!!!

Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name, but what's confusing you is the nature of my game...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI7fEuy9oV4

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Oct 18, 2020 15:47:33   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
TexaCan wrote:
Thank you! You have no idea how much that means to me coming from you! ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป I am but a simple country girl from Texas who has been blessed with so much more than I deserve! And, I married a man that loved and raised my son as his own and made me his partner in all our business adventures and fun adventures!

Joining this forum was so far out of my comfort zone! LOL! So many times I stopped for awhile, but eventually came back to try again! One never gets too old to stretch and find that they are capable of growing and learning something new! I am actually a very quiet, private person that never liked to show my emotions or make myself vulnerable!๐Ÿ˜ฑ. Your kindness and support has always been one of my anchors on this forum! ๐ŸŒ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’ซ๐ŸŒท๐Ÿ’๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒน

I really enjoy reading this forum and imagining the people that are slowly revealed through sharing their Words! People are very amazing! ๐Ÿ˜Š
Thank you! You have no idea how much that means t... (show quote)


You are very welcome and let me assure you there is nothing simple about being a โ€œsimple country girl from Texasโ€™ as you say..โ€ No maโ€™am absolutely not..

Our husbands sound much the same. Mine used to always ask me if I was ready for the next adventure to come and off weโ€™d go...A love undefinable yet so very defined. Blessed I was. Just as you.๐Ÿ’•๐ŸŒน

As for this forum believe it or not itโ€™s the only one Iโ€™ve ever belonged to and spent months reading before I decided to actually register...Like you I learned how nice people truly are and was welcomed just like I had always been here or something when I first started. I was also lucky to have some walk me through the process and teach me about it which helped. With you it was just so natural and thatโ€™s because thatโ€™s how You made it be Tex~~ I mean think about it, when you draw a conclusion of someone you like is it because of their appearance or because what you know of their heart and convictions?โœจ๐Ÿ’ซ๐Ÿ’•๐ŸŒน

Learning you were new brought back those same apprehension I had at first, so I guess thatโ€™s why we hit it off so well. Also sharing our initial feeling over things we lived sure hit home and brought an instant bonding..At least for me.... Weโ€™ve learned together, grown together and lots of respect goes along with that, love too..๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนโค๏ธโœจ๐Ÿ’ซ

People are amazing souls and with each their own unique self...(At least for the majority that is)๐Ÿ˜‰
You define it when you say, โ€œslowly revealed through sharing their Words!โ€ While we do not know the physical being we sure do learn a lot about their moral standards and convictions...When you really think about it, it is the โ€œ persons heart or characteristics that solidify your opinion of them as a person, liking them or not, trusting them as much as you can on a forum, or not and where their moral standards stand... You get the privilege of knowing the person from the inside and not just the physical appearance..In some ways thats a lot better..I mean think about it, when you draw a conclusion of someone you like is it because of their appearance or because what you know of their heart and convictions?

BTW, Happy Halloween from my home to yours... I have even named a few of them when hanging or burying them for people in here... lolol.. Had a great day... Even got my neighbors out doing theirs too... I bet you know which goes to which one~~ lolol...



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Oct 18, 2020 16:48:01   #
Wolfman888
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Yes we are and Iโ€™ll be here lol. It will be a most interesting study in so many respects. I sincerely hope these Trumpers, most of whom I think are inherently good people, can finally face the reality that Trump is a criminal who conned them and so many others. We can empathize with these people after the election. But they must have the courage to accept defeat, understand they have been subscribing to an alternate reality, and halt the damn conspiracy theory BS and come back to being a responsible American.

Hope we see this but not holding my breath.

But gonna be an interesting next few weeks methinks!
Yes we are and Iโ€™ll be here lol. It will be a mos... (show quote)


Well said.

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Oct 18, 2020 17:45:30   #
TexaCan Loc: Heart in W Texas - feet on the beach in Al.
 
lindajoy wrote:
You are very welcome and let me assure you there is nothing simple about being a โ€œsimple country girl from Texasโ€™ as you say..โ€ No maโ€™am absolutely not..

Our husbands sound much the same. Mine used to always ask me if I was ready for the next adventure to come and off weโ€™d go...A love undefinable yet so very defined. Blessed I was. Just as you.๐Ÿ’•๐ŸŒน

As for this forum believe it or not itโ€™s the only one Iโ€™ve ever belonged to and spent months reading before I decided to actually register...Like you I learned how nice people truly are and was welcomed just like I had always been here or something when I first started. I was also lucky to have some walk me through the process and teach me about it which helped. With you it was just so natural and thatโ€™s because thatโ€™s how You made it be Tex~~ I mean think about it, when you draw a conclusion of someone you like is it because of their appearance or because what you know of their heart and convictions?โœจ๐Ÿ’ซ๐Ÿ’•๐ŸŒน

Learning you were new brought back those same apprehension I had at first, so I guess thatโ€™s why we hit it off so well. Also sharing our initial feeling over things we lived sure hit home and brought an instant bonding..At least for me.... Weโ€™ve learned together, grown together and lots of respect goes along with that, love too..๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนโค๏ธโœจ๐Ÿ’ซ

People are amazing souls and with each their own unique self...(At least for the majority that is)๐Ÿ˜‰
You define it when you say, โ€œslowly revealed through sharing their Words!โ€ While we do not know the physical being we sure do learn a lot about their moral standards and convictions...When you really think about it, it is the โ€œ persons heart or characteristics that solidify your opinion of them as a person, liking them or not, trusting them as much as you can on a forum, or not and where their moral standards stand... You get the privilege of knowing the person from the inside and not just the physical appearance..In some ways thats a lot better..I mean think about it, when you draw a conclusion of someone you like is it because of their appearance or because what you know of their heart and convictions?

BTW, Happy Halloween from my home to yours... I have even named a few of them when hanging or burying them for people in here... lolol.. Had a great day... Even got my neighbors out doing theirs too... I bet you know which goes to which one~~ lolol...
You are very welcome and let me assure you there i... (show quote)


What fun decorations! I miss seeing the kids dressing up and trick or treating! We bought candy and was ready last year, but not one customer did we get! LOL! This area has very few children, probably grandchildren for the few that we do see!

We do share quite a few similarities in our lives, and after today, even more! I think Iโ€™m probably not that far from the age that your Mom would have been. Iโ€™m sorry that you lost your husband so young, but what a blessing to have been given your son and the wonderful years that you both shared.

You know if you think about it, it would be interesting to know if our friendships would be different if we first established a relationship first sight unseen, just corresponding by written conversations! I think the relationships would have the chance to be much deeper and more honest......or would have saved time by finding out you didnโ€™t like the person after all! LOL!

Well, I guess I better get ready for our best friend thatโ€™s coming in from South Texas. We were in partnership with him in the Outfitting Hunting business. We had so many fun times with him, some of them got a little wild and harry side! Iโ€™m sure weโ€™ll spend the night reliving a few of them tonight. Iโ€™ll probably have to roll my britches legs up just a little bit! ๐Ÿคช We had some very interesting characters from all over the United States. We had a group of very wealthy business men out of Canada that would bring clients with them. It was never a boring minute with those folks! I always looked forward when they came. The first time I met them Jack told me not to be surprised at their language or the Volume! LOL! They got off the plane at Billings, Mt. and yelled from the top of the escalator, โ€œ Hey, Jack -#$@, How da fโ€”-k you are!โ€ ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Everyone in that small airport knew the Canadians had arrived! There was never a dull moment when they were in camp! Lots of memories and fun times in those years!

Itโ€™s been nice chatting with you, youngโ€™ un........๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ’”โฃ๏ธ๐ŸŒพ๐Ÿ’๐ŸŒˆ

Love ya!
God Bless you and your son!

MARANATHA

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Oct 18, 2020 18:23:37   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Bahaha, yep LMAO Thanks for the laugh good buddy!!!

Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name, but what's confusing you is the nature of my game...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI7fEuy9oV4
Bahaha, yep LMAO img src="https://static.onepolit... (show quote)


Your name is Deb your game is old~~ LMAO too~~

Ahhhh the games people play~~ yup, know them well~~ We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey, teachers, leave them kids alone
All in all it's just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall
We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave those kids alone
Hey teachers, leave those kids alone
All in all you're just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall
"Wrong, do it again! Wrong, do it again!"
"If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?"
"You, yes, you behind the bike sheds, stand still, laddy"

Another brick in the wall๐ŸคŸ๐Ÿป๐ŸคŸ๐Ÿป

https://youtu.be/34ZmKbe5oG4

Famous late words, eh??
โ€œyou could at least explain what games I played with you, possibly unknowingly, at least for sure. โ€œ

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Oct 18, 2020 19:15:59   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
TexaCan wrote:
What fun decorations! I miss seeing the kids dressing up and trick or treating! We bought candy and was ready last year, but not one customer did we get! LOL! This area has very few children, probably grandchildren for the few that we do see!

We do share quite a few similarities in our lives, and after today, even more! I think Iโ€™m probably not that far from the age that your Mom would have been. Iโ€™m sorry that you lost your husband so young, but what a blessing to have been given your son and the wonderful years that you both shared.

You know if you think about it, it would be interesting to know if our friendships would be different if we first established a relationship first sight unseen, just corresponding by written conversations! I think the relationships would have the chance to be much deeper and more honest......or would have saved time by finding out you didnโ€™t like the person after all! LOL!

Well, I guess I better get ready for our best friend thatโ€™s coming in from South Texas. We were in partnership with him in the Outfitting Hunting business. We had so many fun times with him, some of them got a little wild and harry side! Iโ€™m sure weโ€™ll spend the night reliving a few of them tonight. Iโ€™ll probably have to roll my britches legs up just a little bit! ๐Ÿคช We had some very interesting characters from all over the United States. We had a group of very wealthy business men out of Canada that would bring clients with them. It was never a boring minute with those folks! I always looked forward when they came. The first time I met them Jack told me not to be surprised at their language or the Volume! LOL! They got off the plane at Billings, Mt. and yelled from the top of the escalator, โ€œ Hey, Jack -#$@, How da fโ€”-k you are!โ€ ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Everyone in that small airport knew the Canadians had arrived! There was never a dull moment when they were in camp! Lots of memories and fun times in those years!

Itโ€™s been nice chatting with you, youngโ€™ un........๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ’”โฃ๏ธ๐ŸŒพ๐Ÿ’๐ŸŒˆ

Love ya!
God Bless you and your son!

MARANATHA
What fun decorations! I miss seeing the kids dres... (show quote)


FIRST~~ You and Jack are invited to my home whenever you want!!! Most sincerely meant and I do hope you will come!!! Iโ€™m one person with 6 bedrooms 3 bathrooms... Plenty of room. Except the nights my son and girlfriend coming visiting, which is always a surprise...๐Ÿ™ƒ๐Ÿ˜Š

Thanksgiving is booked.. Have 21 people coming and ohhhhhh what we have planned... Sorry, no more room or Iโ€™d say come onnnnnnn...

I get plenty of kids because I dress up, play Halloween music etc... I loveee the kids and holidays!!! My son is just as excited and loves tricking the kids too... Gets that from Mom...๐ŸŽƒ๐Ÿ™Œ๐ŸŽƒ

Thank You about my husband, but he left ma beautiful son who is so much like him its uncanny..Full of love and positivity, my free spirit...

Your friend sounds just perfect!! Better be sure to get those britches up for sure and be up all night!!! And Lololol on your Canadian associates... Too fun for sure!!

Enjoy your friends coming in and do something to shock em good!! Something they would never expect from you.๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ‘น๐Ÿ‘ป๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿฅ€๐Ÿคช
Love you, watch for a PM when alllll your fun days are over and you have rested!!! Lolol

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Oct 19, 2020 11:46:13   #
Rose42
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
I'm Rumi, I confess



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Oct 20, 2020 09:11:57   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Oh my my Texa, again jumping on the conspiracy theory platform without doing any real research into reality. Why don't you try reading a few of these just to get yourself adjusted to the real world a little bit. The Giuliani-Hunter Biden story is about Giuliani being taken to the cleaners by Russian agents who planted this crap. He actually got most of this directly from a known Russian agent, so yeah its a bunch of fake news trash, the kind people like you seem to fall for so easily. Just why is that? Just what is it in your makeup that allows you to constantly be fooled and duped by Russians and others out to harm this country. You still don't get it and at this point its obvious you never will. Foolish to be fooled so often my dear. So sad to be you.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/17/fbi-probes-possible-russia-link-hunter-biden-data-trump-ally-giuliani/3661895001/

"When a New York tabloid published the alleged contents of a computer hard drive purporting to document the Ukrainian and Chinese business activities of Hunter Biden, the newspaper cast the information as a "smoking gun."

Enter the FBI.

Less than three weeks before one of the most contentious presidential campaigns in history, federal authorities are investigating whether the material supplied to the New York Post by Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump's personal lawyer, is part of a smoke bomb of disinformation pushed by Russia.

After months of investigation, two Republican-led Senate committees unveiled a report in September that found no evidence of wrongdoing or corrupt actions by the former vice president in connection with his son Hunter's business dealings in Ukraine."

https://www.businessinsider.com/spies-hunter-biden-emails-trump-giuliani-vulnerable-russian-intelligence-2020-10

"As Business Insider has previously reported, there is no evidence that these claims hold merit, and they've been debunked by intelligence assessments, media reports, congressional investigations, and witness testimony.

Regardless, the Biden-Ukraine conspiracy theory was turbocharged this week, after The New York Post published a widely discredited story purporting to show "smoking-gun" emails between Hunter Biden and a senior Burisma executive about setting up a meeting with Joe Biden when he was vice president in 2015.

The story was written by a former producer for the Fox News show "Hannity," and Giuliani gave the conservative tabloid the emails featured in the story. Shortly after, it was reported that federal authorities are investigating if the emails were part of a foreign influence operation."

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924506867/analysis-questionable-n-y-post-scoop-driven-by-ex-hannity-producer-giuliani

"It is a classic moment in the weeks before Election Day: a news outlet runs a front-page exclusive promising scandalous revelations about a big-ticket candidate.

This week, the New York Post published a story based on what it says are emails โ€” "smoking gun" emails, it calls them โ€” sent by a Ukrainian business executive to the son of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden. The story fits snugly into a narrative from President Trump and his allies that Hunter Biden's zealous pursuit of business ties abroad also compromised the former vice president.

Yet this was a story marked more by red flags than investigative rigor.

To start, the emails have not been verified as authentic. They were said to have been extracted from a computer assumed โ€” but not proven โ€” to have belonged to the younger Biden. They were said to have been given to the Post by Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who is known for making discredited claims about the Bidens.

The venue is also suspect. The pro-Trump New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch, a steady supporter of the president despite recently casting doubt on Trump's reelection prospects. The lead reporter was a former producer for Sean Hannity, Trump's best friend on his favorite news network, Fox News, also controlled by the Murdochs. And the story asserted the existence of a meeting absent any documentation that it actually occurred. (The Biden campaign says the tabloid never sought comment on the veracity of the claims.)

The context also screams for caution: U.S. officials say Russian disinformation campaigns have sought to keep Hunter Biden's business dealings in Ukraine in the public eye. According to The Washington Post, intelligence officials warned the White House last year that Russian operatives had sought to give misinformation to Giuliani to be used against the Bidens. And NBC is now reporting that the FBI is investigating whether the material in the New York Post story originated in a foreign power's disinformation campaign."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-post-story/

"Giuliani apparently held the information for months and released it less than three weeks before the election. Giuliani has long been involved in efforts by the president and his allies to highlight Hunter Biden's work overseas to damage Joe Biden and boost Mr. Trump's reelection campaign, and in 2019 met with a Ukrainian lawmaker who has been deemed an "active Russian agent" by the U.S. government.

In December 2019, National Security Advisor chief Robert O'Brien conveyed concerns to President Trump that Giuliani was being targeted by a Russian disinformation campaign aimed at discrediting Joe Biden, current and former advisors in the Trump administration told CBS News' Paula Reid. Giuliani's meeting with the Ukrainian lawmaker - Andriy Derkach - was one of the reasons for those concerns.

So yeah, I'm pretty sure who the real criminal is here. Expect to see both the Trumpet and his scumbag lawyer Giuliani residing in a cell for most of the remainder of their lives. Something I will be very happy to see indeed!
Oh my my Texa, again jumping on the conspiracy the... (show quote)

What a croc of manure! The FBI received the hard drive over a year ago. Never done anything with it. For whatever reasons. Hunter Biden's business partner (in prison ) just released a bunch of E -mails from the same period that corroborate hunters laptop E-mails. Hunters other partner is awaiting sentencing. If Hunter wasn't setting up meetings with his father , why was he paid 50,000a month from Barisma. And1 and a half Billion from China and Millions from the wife of the Mayor of Moscow. ?
That story your telling is just the hogwash cover-up story told in hopes of satisfying the steeple for a couple of weeks.Because if Biden is elected, it all gets swept under the rug. Along with the Iranian Blackmail scam of Obama. And so much more. Of course No One is talking about any of it typical for The MSM to protect dems. Even at the cost of our Country.

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Oct 20, 2020 11:53:32   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
nonalien1 wrote:
What a croc of manure! The FBI received the hard drive over a year ago. Never done anything with it. For whatever reasons. Hunter Biden's business partner (in prison ) just released a bunch of E -mails from the same period that corroborate hunters laptop E-mails. Hunters other partner is awaiting sentencing. If Hunter wasn't setting up meetings with his father , why was he paid 50,000a month from Barisma. And1 and a half Billion from China and Millions from the wife of the Mayor of Moscow. ?
That story your telling is just the hogwash cover-up story told in hopes of satisfying the steeple for a couple of weeks.Because if Biden is elected, it all gets swept under the rug. Along with the Iranian Blackmail scam of Obama. And so much more. Of course No One is talking about any of it typical for The MSM to protect dems. Even at the cost of our Country.
What a croc of manure! The FBI received the hard d... (show quote)


So if it m reading this correctly, the FBI should have enough to charge Joe and Hunter. Also, where is all this talk of 'that story has been debunked' coming from? No government agency has officially 'debunked' the Hunter Biden story. All we know is what Joe and Joe's supporters have said, which ain't much. But the finding of the laptop and the corroboration of the emails with Hunter's associates is compelling, more compelling than a Russian Dossier or an Ukraine phone call.

Wouldn't it be funny, if during the debate on Thursday, when and if Donald Trump brings the subject up and as expected Joe refuses to answer and the moderator deflects the questioning, that Trump uses the oldest and most powerful right after f the office and instructs the attorney general to arests Joe Biden, for conspiracy against the Untied States, to include spying on a rival campaign using federal resources?

Now you may ask, "Does the president have the power to do this?", facts are in accordance with the constitution, yes he does. Then Barr will be in the hot seat and the press will be all over William Barr.

So if the president invokes the power, and directs the attorney general to arrest Joe Biden, then the burden of proof will be on the government. And with the government having the laptop, which was turned into a Delaware computer repair shop by Hunter Biden, the chain of custody from the receipt of the laptop to the fbi has been established. The emails on the laptop have been corroborated by Biden's former associates. And some of the emails went to the state department.

Therefore the laptop is authentic. And that satisfies burden of proof. This is more than the Russian Dossier and a phone call with Ukraine. So the president can invoke the law enforcement principle at any time. Then what?

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Oct 21, 2020 00:53:02   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
nonalien1 wrote:
What a croc of manure! The FBI received the hard drive over a year ago. Never done anything with it. For whatever reasons. Hunter Biden's business partner (in prison ) just released a bunch of E -mails from the same period that corroborate hunters laptop E-mails. Hunters other partner is awaiting sentencing. If Hunter wasn't setting up meetings with his father , why was he paid 50,000a month from Barisma. And1 and a half Billion from China and Millions from the wife of the Mayor of Moscow. ?
That story your telling is just the hogwash cover-up story told in hopes of satisfying the steeple for a couple of weeks.Because if Biden is elected, it all gets swept under the rug. Along with the Iranian Blackmail scam of Obama. And so much more. Of course No One is talking about any of it typical for The MSM to protect dems. Even at the cost of our Country.
What a croc of manure! The FBI received the hard d... (show quote)


Prove it putz! Prove any of your BS drivel, any little part of it! But you can't!

I see you enjoy conspiracy theories and fake news BS, lets see your sources for any of this crap. I'll tear you a new a-hole with real facts from solid sources and throw every single one of your conspiracy lies into the dust bin of history. Come on at me, I can't wait!

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Oct 21, 2020 01:12:23   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
So if it m reading this correctly, the FBI should have enough to charge Joe and Hunter. Also, where is all this talk of 'that story has been debunked' coming from? No government agency has officially 'debunked' the Hunter Biden story. All we know is what Joe and Joe's supporters have said, which ain't much. But the finding of the laptop and the corroboration of the emails with Hunter's associates is compelling, more compelling than a Russian Dossier or an Ukraine phone call.

Wouldn't it be funny, if during the debate on Thursday, when and if Donald Trump brings the subject up and as expected Joe refuses to answer and the moderator deflects the questioning, that Trump uses the oldest and most powerful right after f the office and instructs the attorney general to arests Joe Biden, for conspiracy against the Untied States, to include spying on a rival campaign using federal resources?

Now you may ask, "Does the president have the power to do this?", facts are in accordance with the constitution, yes he does. Then Barr will be in the hot seat and the press will be all over William Barr.

So if the president invokes the power, and directs the attorney general to arrest Joe Biden, then the burden of proof will be on the government. And with the government having the laptop, which was turned into a Delaware computer repair shop by Hunter Biden, the chain of custody from the receipt of the laptop to the fbi has been established. The emails on the laptop have been corroborated by Biden's former associates. And some of the emails went to the state department.

Therefore the laptop is authentic. And that satisfies burden of proof. This is more than the Russian Dossier and a phone call with Ukraine. So the president can invoke the law enforcement principle at any time. Then what?
So if it m reading this correctly, the FBI should ... (show quote)


How about you look at facts and the bigger picture:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/10/hunter-biden-hard-drive-everything-we-know.html

By the way you should really look into those "terrible" e-mails. The worst thing found that I have seen is that Joe Biden might have had an unscheduled side meeting with a Barisma executive during a UN meeting that led to nothing. Its all a nothing burger which is why it is not getting any traction in the media, or with the voters that are not conspiracy theory crazies.

Compare any of this with what has happened with Trump and his family and it does not even register even if reality is the worst case scenario here for Biden.

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Oct 21, 2020 01:33:47   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
How about you look at facts and the bigger picture:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/10/hunter-biden-hard-drive-everything-we-know.html

By the way you should really look into those "terrible" e-mails. The worst thing found that I have seen is that Joe Biden might have had an unscheduled side meeting with a Barisma executive during a UN meeting that led to nothing. Its all a nothing burger which is why it is not getting any traction in the media, or with the voters that are not conspiracy theory crazies.

Compare any of this with what has happened with Trump and his family and it does not even register even if reality is the worst case scenario here for Biden.
How about you look at facts and the bigger picture... (show quote)


That is why we need an independent investigation on the issue. If the media is biased and Trump supporters are biased then it would come to reason we need an unbiased investigation in court. I say arrest everyone and sort it out in court. The link is biased so I can't go on those conclusions.

Market water we are in

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