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Never realizred the nature of will power until I was 73 and could not get off the toilet because I didn't have the strength
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Sep 25, 2020 21:11:09   #
rumitoid
 
Five failed attempts to stand. Humiliation overwhelmed me. I sat there terrified for maybe another ten minutes. I figured out I could crawl to a better place, get off on my knees and find somewhere a way to get right again. Then suddenly the thought occurred to overcome the problem with will. Just force my ability to stand. Do not recall anything like that before. I pretty much bumped along in life, no real fight or objective. Will Power was not given a thought. So, I finally made up my mind to stand, took a breath, and did so...barely. Since then all the limits presumably on me by my various serious health problems have a strong protagonist. Accessing a will is still shocking.

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Sep 25, 2020 21:17:06   #
SWMBO
 
rumitoid wrote:
Five failed attempts to stand. Humiliation overwhelmed me. I sat there terrified for maybe another ten minutes. I figured out I could crawl to a better place, get off on my knees and find somewhere a way to get right again. Then suddenly the thought occurred to overcome the problem with will. Just force my ability to stand. Do not recall anything like that before. I pretty much bumped along in life, no real fight or objective. Will Power was not given a thought. So, I finally made up my mind to stand, took a breath, and did so...barely. Since then all the limits presumably on me by my various serious health problems have a strong protagonist. Accessing a will is still shocking.
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I can relate to that, having died twice on the operating table during heart surgery (about 2 years ago) and knowing that I have been living om borrowed time. When God calls me, I will come willingly but there are things I still need to do here.

NPP

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Sep 25, 2020 21:18:39   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Five failed attempts to stand. Humiliation overwhelmed me. I sat there terrified for maybe another ten minutes. I figured out I could crawl to a better place, get off on my knees and find somewhere a way to get right again. Then suddenly the thought occurred to overcome the problem with will. Just force my ability to stand. Do not recall anything like that before. I pretty much bumped along in life, no real fight or objective. Will Power was not given a thought. So, I finally made up my mind to stand, took a breath, and did so...barely. Since then all the limits presumably on me by my various serious health problems have a strong protagonist. Accessing a will is still shocking.
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Sep 25, 2020 21:23:35   #
SWMBO
 
Was that necessary? I thought better of you, but, while you don't have to like or respect every poster here, civility will make your comments more welcome by most of the other posters.

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Sep 25, 2020 21:38:40   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
SWMBO wrote:
Was that necessary? I thought better of you, but, while you don't have to like or respect every poster here, civility will make your comments more welcome by most of the other posters.


Sorry. I had to laugh. Rumi’s a fraud.

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Sep 25, 2020 21:40:46   #
SWMBO
 
JFlorio wrote:
Sorry. I had to laugh. Rumi’s a fraud.

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Sep 25, 2020 21:44:03   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
Five failed attempts to stand. Humiliation overwhelmed me. I sat there terrified for maybe another ten minutes. I figured out I could crawl to a better place, get off on my knees and find somewhere a way to get right again. Then suddenly the thought occurred to overcome the problem with will. Just force my ability to stand. Do not recall anything like that before. I pretty much bumped along in life, no real fight or objective. Will Power was not given a thought. So, I finally made up my mind to stand, took a breath, and did so...barely. Since then all the limits presumably on me by my various serious health problems have a strong protagonist. Accessing a will is still shocking.
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Is there a compelling reason why you think we are interested painful episodes from your life history? You're not the only human on this planet who has faced difficulties.

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Sep 25, 2020 22:16:36   #
SWMBO
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Is there a compelling reason why you think we are interested painful episodes from your life history? You're not the only human on this planet who has faced difficulties.


We have all had major challenges at time, but most people do learn how to cope with them and hopefully become a better person from the experiences. Rumi seems to be a fragile person, often lacking such strength and coping sk**ls. I have chosen to ignore many of his posts for that reason, but, when, like now , he is in major emotional pain, it seems a good idea to reach out in kindness, not to encourage his whining but to help him learn more coping sk**ls. Sometimes it helps some times nothing does, but hatred toward those fragile people helps neither that person nor you, so is a detriment to all.

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Sep 25, 2020 22:34:27   #
EmilyD
 
JFlorio wrote:
Sorry. I had to laugh. Rumi’s a fraud.

When I see a post like this one from "rumitoid" I just have to wonder if it's his own story or if he's just cutting and pasting it from somewhere else. To me it doesn't read like his typical style of writing. He doesn't write things like "Humiliation overwhelmed me" and "I pretty much bumped along in life, no real fight or objective"... it just doesn't ring true to me. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but when someone has a history of "stretching" the t***h (I'm putting that lightly...), I tend to become skeptical.

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Sep 25, 2020 23:40:08   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
Five failed attempts to stand. Humiliation overwhelmed me. I sat there terrified for maybe another ten minutes. I figured out I could crawl to a better place, get off on my knees and find somewhere a way to get right again. Then suddenly the thought occurred to overcome the problem with will. Just force my ability to stand. Do not recall anything like that before. I pretty much bumped along in life, no real fight or objective. Will Power was not given a thought. So, I finally made up my mind to stand, took a breath, and did so...barely. Since then all the limits presumably on me by my various serious health problems have a strong protagonist. Accessing a will is still shocking.
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Ya know, rumi, we're all gonna die - death and taxes, man. Sooner or later, bye bye.

Thing is, are you going to go with dignity, with your soul intact, with your sins forgiven, at peace with yourself and your maker, and with gratitude for the gift of life itself, and, in your case, for having lived it so long, Or are you gonna pass away an emotionally exhausted and spiritually broken old man?

"Someday, after mastering the winds, the waves, the tides and gravity,
we shall harness for God the energies of Love, and then,
for the second time in the history of the world,
man will have discovered Fire."


Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

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Sep 26, 2020 00:56:07   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Is there a compelling reason why you think we are interested painful episodes from your life history? You're not the only human on this planet who has faced difficulties.


Blade_Runner: I think he has not cleared his bowels in several years? It can happen to anybody who can't see the forest because of the trees!

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Sep 26, 2020 18:07:55   #
popscott
 
Throw a match between your legs... works best in an outhouse.

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Sep 26, 2020 21:08:49   #
rumitoid
 
SWMBO wrote:
I can relate to that, having died twice on the operating table during heart surgery (about 2 years ago) and knowing that I have been living om borrowed time. When God calls me, I will come willingly but there are things I still need to do here.

NPP


Amen, thank you.

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Sep 26, 2020 21:10:59   #
rumitoid
 
Thought about that many times. But thank you for the caring suggestion.

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Sep 26, 2020 21:16:40   #
rumitoid
 
JFlorio wrote:
Sorry. I had to laugh. Rumi’s a fraud.


You can say that, JFlorio, if you knew me. These presumptive attacks on my character are baseless. JFlorio never met me. I would never attack someone without facts. All he has is h**e for me. I understand that yet find his personal attacks against me an insult to debate decorum. Prove what you say or shut up.

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