permafrost Loc: Minnesota

From a morning e-mail..

Was it right or wrong for Woodward to put his personal opinion in the book?

He has been criticized for this. So have 27 psychiatrists who published a book about Trump’s worrying mental state and the Scientific American that for the first time in its history of 175 years published a recommendation to v**e for a candidate, Biden.

And they all are right for having done so. I don’t understand how anybody cannot see this but this is not normal. Trump is not normal, neither is McConnell or any Republican who still is in the boat with them. This is not another fight between Republicans and Democrats. This is a fight about the very foundation of US society. This is about the decision if the US should stay a democracy or become autocratic with a party in power that has no principles left and will do anything for their personal profit. This is a fight if you want to value the utterings of an imbecile higher than proven scientific facts. This is a fight about if you want to live in reality or a delusion.

This fight is completely and utterly fundamental. If Trump wins, the US as we know it will cease to exist. Republicans will have demantled all democratic institutions after four years and it will take generations to rebuild them if they can be rebuilt at all. Too many people don’t understand this and therefore all the institutions that are supposed to be neutral should speak up. It’s their very livelihood that is at stake.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Out of curiosity, what will Trump accomplish in eight years that he hasn't accomplished in four???

These days both parties seem very alarmist

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

good question CD... maybe just more of the same..

but while he may or may not end the social safety net.. I do think he will try repeatedly..

I expect effectively ending the ACA, by actions or by starving the beast.. which is being very effective for him and gets little recognition..

he will move toward more isolation of America and discontinue more trade practices.. the support of NATO and other alliances will be ended.

environmental efforts will be reduced, maybe ended.. for the sake of reducing cost to MFG..

right to work laws will be expanded to the reduction of the middle/working class.

education may be reduced or more money to private schooling at the expense of public schools.

tax money will have to be generated somehow.. mostly out of the pockets of the middle class.

wh**ever whim crosses his mind may become a front burner topic..

and most important, he will try to force this once fine nation into an Oligarchy, with himself in charge for life..

Oh and the SC will become the travesty that it was during the Field court of years ago..

But this is all mote... he will not be elected.. at least not by f**r e******n.. v**er suppression is one of the key strategies of the trump party..

Another dozen or more negative will cross my mind in 30 minutes or so , but this is it for now..

ImLogicallyRight

Just to dispute a few of those.

***but while he may or may not end the social safety net.. I do think he will try repeatedly..
>>>It isn't about eliminating the social safety net. Certainly not from a Republican or Conservative viewpoint. It is about making it a temporary safety net to give people a chance to get back on their feet and do things for themselves besides sucking on the Government teat for a life time at tax payer expense, while v****g for more. Republicans are more charitable them Democrats and it is proven by net amounts given to charities on their own initiative. There are more then enough avenues available to get help and get back on their feet for just about everybody while continuing aid for those in real need, not laziness. And eliminating all of this tax money going to i******s who shouldn't be here in the first place and dependent on us. That would be a really good thing.


***I expect effectively ending the ACA, by actions or by starving the beast.. which is being very effective for him and gets little recognition.
>>>That would be a good thing. Then replace it with a comprehensive plan that both sides sit down and create without clamping onto certain buzz words and making everything about their own little niche issues. A plan for America.


***he will move toward more isolation of America and discontinue more trade practices.. the support of NATO and other alliances will be ended.
>>>It was never about isolation but making America independent by loosening the chains around American ingenuity. We will have more trade alliances that aren't raping America and destroying our economy. NATO? NATO is and has been loosing its relevance as a deterrent to Russia for a long time and are more of a threat to Russia then the other way around. Hence, Russia's hostility towards the west. President Trump at least did the right thing and demanded that they support their own defense. Russia is not the enemy, China and Iran and militant Islam are. By slowly withdrawing from NATO, Russia will be less likely or in need of moving toward a militant position and more likely ready to open more trade with Europe.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

seems as if every time this comes up on OPP, someone will post more or less what you have just posted..

A list of very reasonable changes the everyone can agree on.. but the people in government which you have place never do that.. for them it is destroy it all and do away with everything needed by the non-wealthy part of America..

You think the welfare rolls are filled with life time users? OK, propose a change, including how-to get that job done. and a reminder, facts fail to agree with your claim about most on welfare..

never have the trump forces come up with any kind of replacement for the ACA.. never have they supported anything which removes the preexisting condition refusal of acceptance.. which I will add, kept me uninsured for 5 years.. damn, I have strong feelings about national health care..

First, trump does not seem to understand international trade.. it is not a one for one equation.. we buy a bunch of widgets from country A, put em in thing a ma jigs and sell some to countries B and C,,, but not to A.. we make money, A makes money B and C make money of fill a need.. everyone is happy.. not equal but happy..

NATO... they made an agreement under President Obama to pay a% of gross production.. under trump they said only that Yes, they would pay as agreed.. trump grabbed that as his own work.. like every other time he had nothing to do with it..

Putin and Russia are very much an enemy of America.. they prove this every day by violations of air space. provocation in the ME, demand/threats to occupy the Baltic states, support of Iran and occupation of former US bases in the ME.. The fact that Putin has trump as his pet is not a good point for the United States.. it is only one more reason we have become the butt of so many jokes in the Russian press and around the world..

ending NATO would be a huge mistake.. remember that in all the history of the pact the only country which called on NATO to act and received it was the United States.. would like to be alone in our world adventures?


I do agree that China, Iran, militant Islam are enemies, of most of the world in fact. but you should also include Saudi Arabia.. after all they have k**led more Americans than any other middle eastern state, not even Afghan can match them..

Auntie Dee

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Seems to me that YOU are the one who is NOT NORMAL! You state that every Republican or anyone who supports OUR PRESIDENT is NOT NORMAL!!! WHO in their right mind would even contemplate making such an overall sweeping statement about millions of people?? ONLY a person with MEGLAMANIA would ever attempt to make such a proclamation!!!

You statement should read: " This is not another fight between Republicans and Democrats. This is a fight about the very foundation of US society. This is about the decision if the US should stay a Constitutional Republic or become a Marxist/C*******t Country whose party in power has no principles left and will do anything for their own personal power & profit. This is a fight if you want to value t***h or the utterings of political activists posing as media and scientists spouting propaganda rather than T***H! This is a fight about if you want to live in reality or a politically-motivated delusion.

This fight is completely and utterly fundamental. If Harris/Biden wins, the US as we know it will cease to exist. Democrats will dismantle all of Our Constitution & Laws & after four years and it will take generations to rebuild them if they can be rebuilt at all. Too many people don’t understand this and therefore all the institutions that are supposed to be neutral should speak up. It’s their very livelihood that is at stake.

WEBCO

I agree with your entire statement, I just think you used Trump instead of Biden.

WEBCO

great post

teabag09

Kyle, I may be wrong but I don't think so. I think a world of hurt is going to happen to a bunch of people who have done wrongful things. I think the President is going to unleash the hounds of Justice and people are going to jail or even more sever. I think we will be seeing a whole bunch of the swamp turned into dry dirt.

That's what I think and that's why the Democrats will throw the kitchen and bathroom sink at President Trump because they know what's coming! Mike

teabag09

You know Right, I keep hearing how SS is an entitlement and it is. It's an entitlement because for 55+ years I payed into it. They claim that I paid 7.5% and my employer paid 7.5%. That is NOT TRUE! What the employer paid is what they would have but didn't put in my paycheck which means that we all have paid the full 15% into our SS accounts. I just turned 70 and if I live to be 100 I won't get back from SS what I put in.

Don't get me wrong, I ain't b***hen, though I was at the time. I'm glad to have that extra money now, I need it even though I'm a somewhat saver.

Damn right SS is an entitlement while foodstamps, section eight etc. ARE NOT entitlements. We need to get our definitions right. Mike

This is not directed at you, just jumped on your post. Thank you. Mike

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

You could be right... But I'm not seeing that on his platform...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

People should have the right to opt into SS...

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Dee,

the democrats are not going c*******t.. that is the lie put out by republicans who do not want anything for the average American. They want it all..

the wealth t***sfer has gone on for generations, but currently over the last few decades it has become epic..

the tax gift is only one glaring example.. the rich write the laws.. that is why investment in this country has nearly disappeared while money intended for that purpose is used for stock buy backs to enrich the already rich.. and it is legal.. per a law passed during the Reagan administration..

A healthy nation needs a healthy middle/working class. and Americas has reached a low point not seen since the gilded age of robber barons and oppressions..

Give an example of the c*******m you fear and we can have a discussion..

We do not need a 3rd red scare..