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Sep 17, 2020 09:53:05   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
If you are a liberal who can’t stand Trump, and cannot possibly fathom why conservatives or anyone would ever v**e for him let me finally fill you in.
It’s not that we love Donald Trump so much. It’s that we can’t stand you. And we will do wh**ever it takes — even if that means electing a rude obnoxious unpredictable narcissist (your words not ours) to the office of President of the United States — because the only thing we find more dangerous to this nation than Donald Trump is you.
How is that possible you might ask? Well, you have done everything in your power to destroy our country. From tearing down the police to tearing down our history, to tearing down our borders. From systematically destroying our schools and brainwashing our kids into believing socialism is the answer to anything (despite being an unmitigated failure everywhere) while demonizing religion and faith, and glorifying a******n, violence, and thug culture.
From calling us r****ts every time we expect everyone of any skin color to follow our laws equally, to telling us that our “tolerance” of lifestyles we don’t agree with isn’t nearly enough — no we must “celebrate” any lifestyle choice or g****r option (forget science) you throw in our direction or you think it’s fine to calls us h********c or some other degrading slur you decide is okay to call us — ironically all while lecturing us on h**e speech. While you gaslight us about 52 g****rs, polyamory, grown men in dresses sharing public locker rooms with little girls, and normalize the sexualization of young children, you simultaneously ridicule us for having the audacity to wish someone a “Merry Christmas” or hang a f**g on the 4th of July, stand for the national anthem, or (horror of horrors) don a MAGA hat in public. So much for your “tolerance.” (See why we think you are just hypocrites??)
We’re also not interested in the fact that you think you can unilaterally decide that 250 years of the right-to-bear-arms against a tyrannical or ineffective government should be abolished because you can’t get the violence in the cities you manage under control. That free-speech should be tossed out the window, and that those who disagree with your opinions are fair game for public harassment or doxing, That spoiled children with nose-rings and tats who still live off their parent’s dime should be allowed to destroy cities and peoples livelihoods without repercussions. That chaos, and lawlessness, and disrespect for authority should be the norm. This is your agenda. And you wonder why we find you more dangerous than Donald Trump?
Your narrative is a constant drone of oppressor/oppressed race-baiting intended to divide the country in as many ways as you possibly can. You love to sell “victim-hood” to people of color every chance you get because it’s such an easy sell compared to actually teaching people to stand on their own two feet and take personal responsibility for their own lives and their own communities and their own futures. But you won’t do that, you will never do that, because then you will lose control over people of color. They might actually start thinking for themselves, God forbid!
This is why we will v**e for Donald Trump. Not because he is the most charming character on the block. Not because he is the most polite politician to have ever graced the oval office. Not because he is the most palatable choice, or because we love his moral character or because the man never lies, but because we are sick to death of you and all of the destructive crap you are doing to this once beautiful and relatively safe country. Your ineffective and completely dysfunctional liberal “leadership”(?) has literally destroyed our most beautiful cities, our public education system, and done its damnedest to rip faith out of people’s lives.
However bad Donald Trump may be, and he is far from perfect, every day we look at you and feel that no matter what Donald Trump says or does there is no possible way he could be any worse for our country than you people are.
We are sick to death of your stupid, destructive, ignorant, and intolerant behavior and beliefs — parading as “wokeness.” We are beyond s**k of your hypocrisy and B.S.
We are fed up with your disrespectful d******eness and constant unrelenting harping and whining and complaining (while you live in the most privileged nation in the world), while making literally zero contributions of anything positive to our society. Your entire focus is on ripping things down, never ever building anything up. Think about that as there is something fundamentally very wrong in the psychology of people who choose destruction as their primary modus operandi.
If Donald J Trump is reelected, don’t blame us, look in the mirror, and blame yourselves. Because you are the ones that are responsible for the rise of Donald Trump. You are the ones who have created this monster that you so despise. Now get back into your cry closet!
If you are a liberal who can’t stand Trump, and ca... (show quote)


Thank you for a good essay. They h**e Trump because they cannot abide history. Trump did promise to drain the swamp and the minions in Washington saw their easy life maybe drained away. Even with the hatred of Trump by the wrong side the people of the world are still lining up to come to America. The weepy Hollywoodland people who threaten to leave never leave they just posture. As f**e as their movies and newscasts.

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Sep 17, 2020 10:18:00   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Wrong again!


Get a beach towel for your crying towel. You're gonna need it.

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Sep 17, 2020 10:39:44   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
The feeling is mutual towards the deplorable morally corrupt party as the New GOP and they're tools


Hey Cuda, so - am I to believe you are perfectly okay with the B*M (but not all black lives) and A****A (no one knows WTH these buffoons want) thugs go about destroying liberal ran cities?? I'm not ready to believe that about you. 😃

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Sep 17, 2020 12:51:55   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
If you are a liberal who can’t stand Trump, and cannot possibly fathom why conservatives or anyone would ever v**e for him let me finally fill you in.
It’s not that we love Donald Trump so much. It’s that we can’t stand you. And we will do wh**ever it takes — even if that means electing a rude obnoxious unpredictable narcissist (your words not ours) to the office of President of the United States — because the only thing we find more dangerous to this nation than Donald Trump is you.
How is that possible you might ask? Well, you have done everything in your power to destroy our country. From tearing down the police to tearing down our history, to tearing down our borders. From systematically destroying our schools and brainwashing our kids into believing socialism is the answer to anything (despite being an unmitigated failure everywhere) while demonizing religion and faith, and glorifying a******n, violence, and thug culture.
From calling us r****ts every time we expect everyone of any skin color to follow our laws equally, to telling us that our “tolerance” of lifestyles we don’t agree with isn’t nearly enough — no we must “celebrate” any lifestyle choice or g****r option (forget science) you throw in our direction or you think it’s fine to calls us h********c or some other degrading slur you decide is okay to call us — ironically all while lecturing us on h**e speech. While you gaslight us about 52 g****rs, polyamory, grown men in dresses sharing public locker rooms with little girls, and normalize the sexualization of young children, you simultaneously ridicule us for having the audacity to wish someone a “Merry Christmas” or hang a f**g on the 4th of July, stand for the national anthem, or (horror of horrors) don a MAGA hat in public. So much for your “tolerance.” (See why we think you are just hypocrites??)
We’re also not interested in the fact that you think you can unilaterally decide that 250 years of the right-to-bear-arms against a tyrannical or ineffective government should be abolished because you can’t get the violence in the cities you manage under control. That free-speech should be tossed out the window, and that those who disagree with your opinions are fair game for public harassment or doxing, That spoiled children with nose-rings and tats who still live off their parent’s dime should be allowed to destroy cities and peoples livelihoods without repercussions. That chaos, and lawlessness, and disrespect for authority should be the norm. This is your agenda. And you wonder why we find you more dangerous than Donald Trump?
Your narrative is a constant drone of oppressor/oppressed race-baiting intended to divide the country in as many ways as you possibly can. You love to sell “victim-hood” to people of color every chance you get because it’s such an easy sell compared to actually teaching people to stand on their own two feet and take personal responsibility for their own lives and their own communities and their own futures. But you won’t do that, you will never do that, because then you will lose control over people of color. They might actually start thinking for themselves, God forbid!
This is why we will v**e for Donald Trump. Not because he is the most charming character on the block. Not because he is the most polite politician to have ever graced the oval office. Not because he is the most palatable choice, or because we love his moral character or because the man never lies, but because we are sick to death of you and all of the destructive crap you are doing to this once beautiful and relatively safe country. Your ineffective and completely dysfunctional liberal “leadership”(?) has literally destroyed our most beautiful cities, our public education system, and done its damnedest to rip faith out of people’s lives.
However bad Donald Trump may be, and he is far from perfect, every day we look at you and feel that no matter what Donald Trump says or does there is no possible way he could be any worse for our country than you people are.
We are sick to death of your stupid, destructive, ignorant, and intolerant behavior and beliefs — parading as “wokeness.” We are beyond s**k of your hypocrisy and B.S.
We are fed up with your disrespectful d******eness and constant unrelenting harping and whining and complaining (while you live in the most privileged nation in the world), while making literally zero contributions of anything positive to our society. Your entire focus is on ripping things down, never ever building anything up. Think about that as there is something fundamentally very wrong in the psychology of people who choose destruction as their primary modus operandi.
If Donald J Trump is reelected, don’t blame us, look in the mirror, and blame yourselves. Because you are the ones that are responsible for the rise of Donald Trump. You are the ones who have created this monster that you so despise. Now get back into your cry closet!
If you are a liberal who can’t stand Trump, and ca... (show quote)



wow, the collective brain power of the right wing remains a mystery to the world..



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Sep 17, 2020 13:02:29   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
wow, the collective brain power of the right wing remains a mystery to the world..


It's very simple; Liberty and Freedom are what Real Americans Love and Fight For.

Anarchy and home grown kommie despotism are what Real Americans despise and fight against

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Sep 17, 2020 13:31:47   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Crayons wrote:
It's very simple; Liberty and Freedom are what Real Americans Love and Fight For.

Anarchy and home grown kommie despotism are what Real Americans despise and fight against


Crayon... what freedom did you lose while President Obama was in office???

Compare that to what you have lost under trump..

Include the intangibles, like respect and opportunity for all..

It is remarkable that the instructions keep you screaming about a false socialism fear and none of you ever mention the continuing movement of wealth to the very rich and the development of an oligarchy for the country..

You fear socialism but see nothing wrong with being oppressed by the the very rich and powerful.



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Sep 17, 2020 13:31:59   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
If you are a liberal who can’t stand Trump, and cannot possibly fathom why conservatives or anyone would ever v**e for him let me finally fill you in.
It’s not that we love Donald Trump so much. It’s that we can’t stand you. And we will do wh**ever it takes — even if that means electing a rude obnoxious unpredictable narcissist (your words not ours) to the office of President of the United States — because the only thing we find more dangerous to this nation than Donald Trump is you.
How is that possible you might ask? Well, you have done everything in your power to destroy our country. From tearing down the police to tearing down our history, to tearing down our borders. From systematically destroying our schools and brainwashing our kids into believing socialism is the answer to anything (despite being an unmitigated failure everywhere) while demonizing religion and faith, and glorifying a******n, violence, and thug culture.
From calling us r****ts every time we expect everyone of any skin color to follow our laws equally, to telling us that our “tolerance” of lifestyles we don’t agree with isn’t nearly enough — no we must “celebrate” any lifestyle choice or g****r option (forget science) you throw in our direction or you think it’s fine to calls us h********c or some other degrading slur you decide is okay to call us — ironically all while lecturing us on h**e speech. While you gaslight us about 52 g****rs, polyamory, grown men in dresses sharing public locker rooms with little girls, and normalize the sexualization of young children, you simultaneously ridicule us for having the audacity to wish someone a “Merry Christmas” or hang a f**g on the 4th of July, stand for the national anthem, or (horror of horrors) don a MAGA hat in public. So much for your “tolerance.” (See why we think you are just hypocrites??)
We’re also not interested in the fact that you think you can unilaterally decide that 250 years of the right-to-bear-arms against a tyrannical or ineffective government should be abolished because you can’t get the violence in the cities you manage under control. That free-speech should be tossed out the window, and that those who disagree with your opinions are fair game for public harassment or doxing, That spoiled children with nose-rings and tats who still live off their parent’s dime should be allowed to destroy cities and peoples livelihoods without repercussions. That chaos, and lawlessness, and disrespect for authority should be the norm. This is your agenda. And you wonder why we find you more dangerous than Donald Trump?
Your narrative is a constant drone of oppressor/oppressed race-baiting intended to divide the country in as many ways as you possibly can. You love to sell “victim-hood” to people of color every chance you get because it’s such an easy sell compared to actually teaching people to stand on their own two feet and take personal responsibility for their own lives and their own communities and their own futures. But you won’t do that, you will never do that, because then you will lose control over people of color. They might actually start thinking for themselves, God forbid!
This is why we will v**e for Donald Trump. Not because he is the most charming character on the block. Not because he is the most polite politician to have ever graced the oval office. Not because he is the most palatable choice, or because we love his moral character or because the man never lies, but because we are sick to death of you and all of the destructive crap you are doing to this once beautiful and relatively safe country. Your ineffective and completely dysfunctional liberal “leadership”(?) has literally destroyed our most beautiful cities, our public education system, and done its damnedest to rip faith out of people’s lives.
However bad Donald Trump may be, and he is far from perfect, every day we look at you and feel that no matter what Donald Trump says or does there is no possible way he could be any worse for our country than you people are.
We are sick to death of your stupid, destructive, ignorant, and intolerant behavior and beliefs — parading as “wokeness.” We are beyond s**k of your hypocrisy and B.S.
We are fed up with your disrespectful d******eness and constant unrelenting harping and whining and complaining (while you live in the most privileged nation in the world), while making literally zero contributions of anything positive to our society. Your entire focus is on ripping things down, never ever building anything up. Think about that as there is something fundamentally very wrong in the psychology of people who choose destruction as their primary modus operandi.
If Donald J Trump is reelected, don’t blame us, look in the mirror, and blame yourselves. Because you are the ones that are responsible for the rise of Donald Trump. You are the ones who have created this monster that you so despise. Now get back into your cry closet!
If you are a liberal who can’t stand Trump, and ca... (show quote)


I love Donald trump! He is a patriot!!

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Sep 17, 2020 13:40:21   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
proud republican wrote:
Excellent post!!! Except I don't find him dangerous , but pain in the butt!


He is not a phony, speaks his mind! Not political , just real patriot! Lots of people are pain in the gludes! He is dangerous to the liberal mindset!!!

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Sep 17, 2020 14:32:26   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Wrong again!


Do NOT pay attention to he/she/it! Your post totally hit the mark! I've expressed similar remarks, but yours was much better and I wish I had written it! Major kudus.

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Sep 17, 2020 14:41:26   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
wow, the collective brain power of the right wing remains a mystery to the world..


If you had any understanding at all, you would see how those green 'proposals' would open the door to the very dictatorship you claim to h**e. Like the v**e-for-mail trap, they would open the door to massive abuse of power.

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Sep 17, 2020 14:46:50   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Crayon... what freedom did you lose while President Obama was in office???

Compare that to what you have lost under trump..

Include the intangibles, like respect and opportunity for all..

It is remarkable that the instructions keep you screaming about a false socialism fear and none of you ever mention the continuing movement of wealth to the very rich and the development of an oligarchy for the country..

You fear socialism but see nothing wrong with being oppressed by the the very rich and powerful.
Crayon... what freedom did you lose while Presiden... (show quote)


Great meme. As usual, the MSM is focused on the democrats and ignoring the Trump rally behind them.
By the way, I checked everywhere. I'm only missing one freedom. Freedom from intolerance from the left.

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Sep 17, 2020 15:16:59   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
permafrost wrote:
Crayon... what freedom did you lose while President Obama was in office???

Compare that to what you have lost under trump..

Include the intangibles, like respect and opportunity for all..

It is remarkable that the instructions keep you screaming about a false socialism fear and none of you ever mention the continuing movement of wealth to the very rich and the development of an oligarchy for the country..

You fear socialism but see nothing wrong with being oppressed by the the very rich and powerful.
Crayon... what freedom did you lose while Presiden... (show quote)


The poster boy for the h**e party.
H**e, burn, destroy and anything else they can conjure up to take down our country.

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Sep 17, 2020 15:28:12   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
How is that possible you might ask? Well, you have done everything in your power to destroy our country. From tearing down the police to tearing down our history, to tearing down our borders.

While the rhetoric of "tearing down the police" revs up the troops, the actual intent was to relieve the police of being social workers having to deal with domestic violence and mental issues. To do this, the intent was to create teams within the police to deal with these issues, not to totally disband the police forces. That would be folly.
As for tearing down our history, I assume that you mean the taking down of Confederate statues. I don't agree with that, but neither do I agree with the teaching of history that whitewashes the reasons behind the Civil War and the fact of s***ery. The statuary can be (in context) a teaching moment to keep another Civil War from happening.
As for border protection, I (and most people) don't agree with open borders, but we have to face reality. Much of the reason for people trying to gain entry to our country is economic, and since we did away with the Bracero (migrant farm labor) program, many farms have had to rely on undocumented labor to bring the crops to the market, since most Americans don't want to do the backbreaking manual labor involved in harvesting lettuce or picking tomatos.

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From systematically destroying our schools and brainwashing our kids into believing socialism is the answer to anything (despite being an unmitigated failure everywhere) while demonizing religion and faith, and glorifying a******n, violence, and thug culture.

I think that you are overplaying your hand when you say that the country is "destroying our schools and brainwashing our kids". The schools are almost totally controlled by the local school boards, who are elected by the populations of those localities. If there is blame to be placed on the quality of education, it is with those elected officials, not with a political party. The educational system has been "dumbed down" for the last fifty years, discarding cultural classes, eliminating political science and government education, and concentrating on STEM issues to the detrement of the society as a whole. Unbridled socialism is not an answer any more than unbridled capitalism is one. The middle road is the only way it works, and there are vocal fringes on both sides of the issue. There has to be compromise on what the kids get taught in order to be good citizens.
I think that "demonizing religion and faith" is a bit of an overreach. I tend to believe that there are certain moral values that all faiths and belief systems hold in common, and once we exceed those common beliefs, the government should stay out of trying to mandate those to the country at large.
As for "glorifying a******n, violence, and thug culture", both sides are guilty of keeping this front and center. A******n is considered by most as a personal issue, and the rift centers on when life begins … which many differ on that point. But that's a whole different discussion.
The violence comes from two sources: one being the issue of police brutality primarily against black citizens, and the other by (as you call them) "thugs" who just want to wreak havoc and destroy things for the hell of it. One is somewhat justified, considering the centuries of oppression that b****s have suffered in this country. Are there extremists in the B*M movement? Of course. Are there r****ts in the opposite camp? Absolutely. But the vast majority of both side just want an end to both the police brutality and the violence/thuggery.

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From calling us r****ts every time we expect everyone of any skin color to follow our laws equally, to telling us that our “tolerance” of lifestyles we don’t agree with isn’t nearly enough — no we must “celebrate” any lifestyle choice or g****r option (forget science) you throw in our direction or you think it’s fine to calls us h********c or some other degrading slur you decide is okay to call us — ironically all while lecturing us on h**e speech.

I'm not sure that your expectation of e******y under the law is the same as that of most Americans. There is s******c r****m in both the judicial system and in the economic system that works against minority populations. If you think otherwise, then you probably have r****t tendencies.
As for alternate lifestyles, nobody is forcing them down your throat. I don't think that anyone is forcing you to "celebrate" a lifestyle you don't agree with. You are perfectly free to not associate with them and hold their beliefs in contempt, so long as neither of you has an upper hand in the public square. Mere tolerance would be the minimum, but neither they nor you should be able to suppress their ability to live their lives as they wish.
When h********c pastors or network pundits rant on lifestyles they don't like (primarily on religious grounds), that can devolve into h**e speech, just as easily as an agnostic or atheist could spout off against religious believers … both can be h**eful, and both are protected under the Constitution.

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We’re also not interested in the fact that you think you can unilaterally decide that 250 years of the right-to-bear-arms against a tyrannical or ineffective government should be abolished because you can’t get the violence in the cities you manage under control.

If you read the Second Amendment, the full clause reads "A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Note the part about a "well-regulated m*****a". At the time, every male citizen was the army, and they drilled in the town square every weekend. They were a 'well-regulated m*****a'. They had officers, and knew what the limits on their conduct were. In the aftermath of the Civil War, a standing army was instituted, but the amendment still held, even though there were no longer town and state m*****as, per se. The National Guard eventually took their place. What has been lost is the fact that the intent was to regulate the holding of firearms that have become mass casualty enablers to some kind of control.
I personally have no problem with sporting rifles and revolvers for self-defense, but having four AK-47's, two Glock semi-auto 9 mils, and a rocket launcher in your basement without your being 'well regulated' is somewhat of a stretch. If you happen to go off the rails and use these weapons to destroy large numbers of people, there's something wrong with the system. No, I'm not advocating that "they're coming to take your guns away". But I do not believe that weapons of war should be available to the general public.

I've taken up too much space already, except to say that much of the rest of the post is exaggeration in my opinion. But these points that I have rebutted stand on their own merits.

As always, your mileage may vary.

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Sep 17, 2020 16:22:32   #
elledee
 
permafrost wrote:
wow, the collective brain power of the right wing remains a mystery to the world..


Same old creepy more gov. More government spending and f the people

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Sep 17, 2020 16:27:44   #
Carol Kelly
 
proud republican wrote:
Excellent post!!! Except I don't find him dangerous , but pain in the butt!


I don’t find him dangerous, irritating or a pain in the butt. I find him refreshing and interesting and last but not least, I find Trump entertaining. And I echo your entire post, Mr. Sutton.

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