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Sep 17, 2020 19:57:15   #
Iliamna1
 
SWMBO wrote:
Actually descented skunks make good pets if purchases as babies so they are tamed and handled a lot. They do require the same shots cats and dogs get, and can be destructive in the house, but can be cage trained with strong cages, Do keep the claws cut short of they will cause a lot of damage to your rugs.


This domesticated skunk thing has really taken off. Handled regularly, they have personalities kind of like cats, snuggling with their owners. They even have skunk shows, like we have dog or cat shows. Some people really get into this. Opossums can also be tamed.

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Sep 18, 2020 08:46:16   #
SWMBO
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
This domesticated skunk thing has really taken off. Handled regularly, they have personalities kind of like cats, snuggling with their owners. They even have skunk shows, like we have dog or cat shows. Some people really get into this. Opossums can also be tamed.


I did not know there were skunk shows. I do obedience competition activities with the dogs and have a close friend, who breeds Welsh Terriers and is where we got our Welsh, who is a top breeder of Welsh and has more than half a century experience with terriers in conformation and obedience. I have been to guinea pig shows, but not skunk shows, have to go to one sometime. I assume they are all descented.

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Sep 18, 2020 14:21:12   #
Iliamna1
 
SWMBO wrote:
I did not know there were skunk shows. I do obedience competition activities with the dogs and have a close friend, who breeds Welsh Terriers and is where we got our Welsh, who is a top breeder of Welsh and has more than half a century experience with terriers in conformation and obedience. I have been to guinea pig shows, but not skunk shows, have to go to one sometime. I assume they are all descented.


One would hope! I used to raise parti cocker spaniels. I had this one female that was a drama queen and she KNEW people were looking at her. She looooved going to the shows and she sure did strut her stuff!

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Sep 18, 2020 14:50:15   #
SWMBO
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
One would hope! I used to raise parti cocker spaniels. I had this one female that was a drama queen and she KNEW people were looking at her. She looooved going to the shows and she sure did strut her stuff!


I am assuming that you bred American Cocker Spaniels. The English Cockers are slightly larger with a different type of coat and often red or blue roan color. Years ago The American Cocker was still a functional sporting dog but many of the ones in the show ring today don't look as useable in the field. Our friend, from whom we got our Welsh Terrier, is now going stir crazy with no shows to go to, and no obedience trials either. Since we do competition obedience once in a while, I often go to shows with her just for fun. Our dogs are all neutered males as they work best for therapy dogs with the boys.

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Sep 18, 2020 16:35:58   #
Iliamna1
 
The American field spaniel, the Clumber spaniel, the Clussex spaniel the English springer and American springer spaniel and the three varieties of American cockers all were once (mostly) one breed and over a number of several hundred years, the various affectionados split off into their own groups with certain traits they were looking for. Also, some of the spaniels (mentioned above) were interbred with other breeds to achieve their current looks and function. I'm sure this was also true for the many varieties of terriers, as well. The amazing thing, though, as refined and beautiful as the many breeds and groups are, they're all genetically wolves, from the tiniest teacup poodle to the largest Borzoi, they're still wolves, with many of their ancestor's abilities and traits. I find that amazing. It works well for the terriers with their drive to hunt vermin.
When I was in college, I took a bunch of courses on genetics (I had other plans for my future). Little did know that training would come into play in raising parti-cockers. The variations of color is truly amazing! Of course, there's the standard red and white, black and white, but there were also the merles, the variations of browns like chocolate and liver and white, tri-colors (my favorite) and sable and white Did you know there are some blue and white cockers? They're rare, very recessive, but they're out there. Their 'blue' is similar to that of the Kerry blue terrier's color. I also loved their flowing coats. It's a high-maintenance breed, but there's hardly anything prettier than a well-g***med parti cocker,

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Sep 19, 2020 08:49:26   #
SWMBO
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
The American field spaniel, the Clumber spaniel, the Clussex spaniel the English springer and American springer spaniel and the three varieties of American cockers all were once (mostly) one breed and over a number of several hundred years, the various affectionados split off into their own groups with certain traits they were looking for. Also, some of the spaniels (mentioned above) were interbred with other breeds to achieve their current looks and function. I'm sure this was also true for the many varieties of terriers, as well. The amazing thing, though, as refined and beautiful as the many breeds and groups are, they're all genetically wolves, from the tiniest teacup poodle to the largest Borzoi, they're still wolves, with many of their ancestor's abilities and traits. I find that amazing. It works well for the terriers with their drive to hunt vermin.
When I was in college, I took a bunch of courses on genetics (I had other plans for my future). Little did know that training would come into play in raising parti-cockers. The variations of color is truly amazing! Of course, there's the standard red and white, black and white, but there were also the merles, the variations of browns like chocolate and liver and white, tri-colors (my favorite) and sable and white Did you know there are some blue and white cockers? They're rare, very recessive, but they're out there. Their 'blue' is similar to that of the Kerry blue terrier's color. I also loved their flowing coats. It's a high-maintenance breed, but there's hardly anything prettier than a well-g***med parti cocker,
The American field spaniel, the Clumber spaniel, t... (show quote)


Does the blue color include the epilepsy gene that the blue in Kerry Blues often carries? All breeds of dog have their own genetic problems, but then, so to mix breed dogs, and theirs are less predictable. We also have 3 Cane Corsos, big and intimidating but great dogs for those people who are dominate enough to handle them. Our 3 are at least 125 pounds each, the smallest one is still a puppy so will probably be 140 when mature. Like other giant breeds, they are somewhat short lived. On the other hand the Welsh generally live 12 to 14 years and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier's grand parents are still alive and doing obedience and barn hunt work. The woman we got the Welsh from has a red and white Staffy that is a half brother to ours and the grand dam of hers is still competing in the conformation and performance rings.
The Staffy Bulls have 10 times the energy of the Welsh, which are NOT docile dogs. Have to unwind the Staffy for a couple of hours before training, but they are very smart and real people dogs.

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Sep 19, 2020 15:00:33   #
Iliamna1
 
That is a very good question to which I have no answer. Hearing that, if epilepsy is a problem with the blue gene, perhaps that's why the blue and w****s aren't bred as epilepsy would be a very bad gene to replicate into the genetic pool. The last time I heard of a blue and white cocker was in the mid 70's and I wondered then why more puppies weren't bred and that would be a very good explanation.
I am curious, though, and suspect you'll know the answer:? what is the difference between a Staffordshire terrier and a pit bull? They look the same to me, but I've often wondered. I know the corsos originated in ancient Rome as guard dogs.
After my last cocker died of old age, I got a Clumber spaniel. Although she was show quality, but there just weren't any shows with more than 1 or 2 points within 500 miles of where I lived then (central Texas). While she wasn't a barker, I did get several complaints when she'd fall asleep next to the fence by my neighbor's bedroom window . . . for snoring! And could that dog snore! Also, they drool prodigiously! And they shed more than any other breed I've ever had! And stubborn! ! ! you could teach Hildegaard to do anything, but she wouldn't do it a third time in the same day. If you didn't see her do it the first time or two in a given day, you were out of luck. I've been told by other Clumber breeders that they can all count to three really well. However, They're sweet, affectionate, playful and kind of goofy looking, but certainly not for everyone. Although bred for flushing, they have a nose about as good as a bloodhound's, and can make great tracking dogs.
Now, I live in Florida with my sister and her husband on a small farm. They like Aussies, but aren't involved in showing or breeding. We have one, basically bred to be a farm dog, for which she is well-adapted and a help. And she's an independent thinker, which sometimes gets her into trouble, but she learns quickly and helps Connie bring the horses in in the evening.

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Sep 19, 2020 16:20:59   #
SWMBO
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
That is a very good question to which I have no answer. Hearing that, if epilepsy is a problem with the blue gene, perhaps that's why the blue and w****s aren't bred as epilepsy would be a very bad gene to replicate into the genetic pool. The last time I heard of a blue and white cocker was in the mid 70's and I wondered then why more puppies weren't bred and that would be a very good explanation.
I am curious, though, and suspect you'll know the answer:? what is the difference between a Staffordshire terrier and a pit bull? They look the same to me, but I've often wondered. I know the corsos originated in ancient Rome as guard dogs.
After my last cocker died of old age, I got a Clumber spaniel. Although she was show quality, but there just weren't any shows with more than 1 or 2 points within 500 miles of where I lived then (central Texas). While she wasn't a barker, I did get several complaints when she'd fall asleep next to the fence by my neighbor's bedroom window . . . for snoring! And could that dog snore! Also, they drool prodigiously! And they shed more than any other breed I've ever had! And stubborn! ! ! you could teach Hildegaard to do anything, but she wouldn't do it a third time in the same day. If you didn't see her do it the first time or two in a given day, you were out of luck. I've been told by other Clumber breeders that they can all count to three really well. However, They're sweet, affectionate, playful and kind of goofy looking, but certainly not for everyone. Although bred for flushing, they have a nose about as good as a bloodhound's, and can make great tracking dogs.
Now, I live in Florida with my sister and her husband on a small farm. They like Aussies, but aren't involved in showing or breeding. We have one, basically bred to be a farm dog, for which she is well-adapted and a help. And she's an independent thinker, which sometimes gets her into trouble, but she learns quickly and helps Connie bring the horses in in the evening.
That is a very good question to which I have no an... (show quote)


They are separate breeds. There is an American Staffordshire Terrier, around 18 inches to 20 inches at the whithers, a Bull terrier, which comes in miniature (about 113 to 15 inches at the whithers) and a regular Bull Terrier which is larger and very muscular. The Staffordshire Bull Terrier seems to be the foundation breed for the others, is around 15 1/2 at the withers, and 35 to 40 pounds of solid muscle, more energy and power per pound that any other breed I have encountered, very intelligent but, like many of the group, not always friendly with other dogs, particularly the intact males can be aggressive to other males. StaffyBulls come in many colors, red and white or blue brindle and white being the most common. All the terrier breeds should be high energy because of the vermin hunting work they were bred to do, and, for the same reason, often dominant personalities, but very good problem solvers, often great escape artists. Our three Cane Corsos are huge, powerful but very docile unless their protection ability is needed. Fortunately, the size is enough to make most people cautious, except some of the druggies, who need a stronger suggestion to go away.

The term pit bull just means any dog used for fighting other dogs, because the tests are done in a pit where the dogs fight to the death or until one gives up.

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Sep 19, 2020 16:52:32   #
Iliamna1
 
Thanks for the info.
BTW, that female cocker that I spoke of earlier was a great h****r. We discovered this by accident when a friend left a cockatiel in a bedroom for a while. We kept the door closed so neither the cat nor the dogs could get to her. A few days after Chatty (the bird) arrived, we saw Mona frozen at the door in a perfect point. Yes, some cockers still point. A friend's husband liked to hunt, so I potted off all her leg feathers and stripped her down (she was finished showing) and he took her hunting. She took to it like a duck to water and was good at pointing, flushing and retrieving. Who would have thought? The function is still there.

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Sep 20, 2020 01:06:26   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
AuntiE wrote:


That will deffinately work AuntiE

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Sep 20, 2020 07:29:55   #
Tug484
 
AuntiE wrote:


Pet skunks are cool, but they go nuts during the night.
At least the one I saw did.

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Sep 20, 2020 08:46:12   #
SWMBO
 
Tug484 wrote:
Pet skunks are cool, but they go nuts during the night.
At least the one I saw did.


They are nocturnal animals so they are most active at night. What else would you expect?

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Sep 20, 2020 09:41:46   #
Tug484
 
SWMBO wrote:
They are nocturnal animals so they are most active at night. What else would you expect?


They are destructive in a house.

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Sep 20, 2020 10:16:37   #
SWMBO
 
Tug484 wrote:
They are destructive in a house.


That is to be expected.

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Sep 20, 2020 16:15:00   #
Tug484
 
SWMBO wrote:
That is to be expected.


Yep.
My sister had one that wasn't.
They'd take it out to their land.
They took it's litter box.
The skunk would walk all over the land but come back to the station wagon, jump in the back to use his litter box.

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