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Sep 16, 2020 10:18:16   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
Kevyn wrote:
If it wasn’t having an effect you fragile snowflakes wouldn’t have your panties in a bunch over it, would you? This protest is working brilliantly, it has effectively forced football fans that normally don’t give r****m a second thought to think about it. Their only option is to walk away from a sport they love. Think how much clowns like Rush Limbaugh must miss football, or more likely are forced to watch this dignified protest. Either way it is a win.


As the power and glory of Rome began to fade the government built more arenas and put more gladiators into the arenas. As America begins to fracture by the warfare between the Dem and the Rep the news media prints things meant to bring more division between Americans. People go to auto races to see the wrecks. If you can hold that as true then it should follow that if the losing team captain were k**led in the arena the population would flock to the arena to watch the spectacle. The teams could also chant, “Hail Caesar, we who are about to die salute you.”

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Sep 16, 2020 15:51:36   #
Larry Joe
 
Kevyn wrote:
If it wasn’t having an effect you fragile snowflakes wouldn’t have your panties in a bunch over it, would you? This protest is working brilliantly, it has effectively forced football fans that normally don’t give r****m a second thought to think about it. Their only option is to walk away from a sport they love. Think how much clowns like Rush Limbaugh must miss football, or more likely are forced to watch this dignified protest. Either way it is a win.


You obviously never wore the uniform of this country. I played both high school and college football and still enjoy college sports. Being from Missouri at the time, I did watch the playoffs and Super Bowl. Prior to that, no pro sports for the past three years. Guess what I’m not watching this year. My own personal protest.
Larry Joe

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Sep 16, 2020 17:29:21   #
kemmer
 
ACP45 wrote:
"Either way it's a win". Give me F****** break. Roger Goodell, and the owners of those NFL frnchise teams will watch their revenue decline, and will be responsible for the decline of the sport. Yes, I used to love football. But I will not spend a dime of my money supporting what the NFL has become. I hope others like me send the same message.

They’re not that stupid. Get over yourself.

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Sep 16, 2020 17:31:28   #
kemmer
 
Larry Joe wrote:
You obviously never wore the uniform of this country. I played both high school and college football and still enjoy college sports. Being from Missouri at the time, I did watch the playoffs and Super Bowl. Prior to that, no pro sports for the past three years. Guess what I’m not watching this year. My own personal protest.
Larry Joe

Boo-hoo. Nobody cares if you watch or don’t watch.

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Sep 16, 2020 17:55:46   #
debeda
 
plumbob wrote:
Your message is being heard upon deaf ears with the controversial kneeling at sporting events. True you are making a point and have a following, but how long has it been now and absolutely nothing has been achieved. Instead of expressing your views to such a small arena which is really your place of work, the following would get you noticed on a much larger scale and by people in the know that can make a change.

But first remember that Freedom is not Free. Many have given their all for that rite with their lives. What i am suggesting will cost you in dollars and only you can decide is it worth it.

Unite as many as you can of the teams and fans in your sport and protest at each and every State Capital in this land. Just imagine for a minute 10 or 15 teams locked arms and kneeling in unison surrounding a capital building. Peaceful it will be and permits to protest will be needed and like i mention, it will cost you in travel plans and accommodations.

So what do you think? You are in a business that have large organization and management support that can do the grunt work of setting up each event, why not put your dollars to a good use.

Freedom from what concerns you, is not Free.
Your message is being heard upon deaf ears with th... (show quote)


The Democrats NEVER want an effect!! Heaven forbid something actually improve All they want is the megaphone. Too bad they're wrecking pro sports while they're at it.

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Sep 16, 2020 18:01:11   #
Rose42
 
kemmer wrote:
They’re not that stupid. Get over yourself.


Yeah they really are that stupid.

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Sep 16, 2020 18:06:08   #
jwrevagent
 
Kevyn wrote:
If it wasn’t having an effect you fragile snowflakes wouldn’t have your panties in a bunch over it, would you? This protest is working brilliantly, it has effectively forced football fans that normally don’t give r****m a second thought to think about it. Their only option is to walk away from a sport they love. Think how much clowns like Rush Limbaugh must miss football, or more likely are forced to watch this dignified protest. Either way it is a win.


It has no effect on me, frankly, except to verify my thoughts about most professional sports people and their whining.I have thought about r****m often in the 77 years I have lived here on earth. I have seen it, only not the way you may think-I applied to an all black college back in 1960-I graduated high school in 1961, and their response was that they were not at present enrolling any Caucasians-not by g****r, just by color of skin. I have to say they were very polite about it, and it was OK-the school was in South Carolina, and as far as I know is no longer operating. At any rate, I just thought it was their right to do that-they did not ask me to apply, after all, I wanted to attend the school-I think they had some courses I was interested in, and it looked like a nice, smallish college-I wanted to avoid state universities, if I could.

I told that to a coworker of mine, who was b***hing about not being promoted as fast as he thought he deserved-he was not that great at his job-and blamed that he was Black for that. It was nonsense-we both worked for the WI Dept of Revenue as Revenue Agents-tax collectors, basically-and he was barely making the minimum number of accounts completed, and that number was set low-as most standards for civil service are.

When I visited Baltimore when I was a kid-about 8 or so, I think, and I saw some water fountains that were marked White and Negro. I wondered how come I could not use the water fountain labelled for B****s only. It never occurred to me that it was to discriminate against the B****s. I always thought that was silly-how many really neat people, people who make you laugh, people who are good friends, who are simply nice do you keep yourself from meeting because you want to segregate b****s from w****s, or reds, or yellows or browns? What a thought. I usually tried to at least strike up an acquaintance with them, because they were so interesting-different experiences, different backgrounds and ideas, and some knew more than just English! Great stuff. So, if the whiners and complainers and crybaby athletes had never knelt, had never used the disrespectful salute, had never stayed in the locker room during the anthem, I had already thought a lot about r****m.

And now I have proof that these babies are over paid, under worked and think way more of themselves than their accomplishments, such as they are, show.

Generally speaking, they have not made one ounce of difference in anyone's life in a meaningful way-let them put some of the big bucks they have into building a school in the inner city, paying the cost of the education of some bright kid who cannot afford to go to college-but then, they would not recognize a bright kid, I guess. Not an athlete, someone who is quiet, smart and hard working-or perhaps they could sponsor a chair in an educational science or something, donate a science lab, sponsor a chair in a symphony-something worthwhile, that actually helps some one get a good start in life. By and large they do not. I know they set up foundations and trusts and stuff, but that is more for tax purposes than to actually help anyone. Of course, they are then touted as some kind of generous hero! Let them put 75% of their salary to that use-they still get huge amounts in endorsements and speaking and stuff-they would not even notice the loss. Sorry, they are the snowflakes-the disloyal to their fans while demanding that fans stick with them-HAH!

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Sep 16, 2020 18:08:36   #
debeda
 
jwrevagent wrote:
It has no effect on me, frankly, except to verify my thoughts about most professional sports people and their whining.I have thought about r****m often in the 77 years I have lived here on earth. I have seen it, only not the way you may think-I applied to an all black college back in 1960-I graduated high school in 1961, and their response was that they were not at present enrolling any Caucasians-not by g****r, just by color of skin. I have to say they were very polite about it, and it was OK-the school was in South Carolina, and as far as I know is not longer operating. At any rate, I just thought it was their right to do that-they did not ask me to apply, after all, I wanted to attend the school-I think they had some courses I was interested in, and it looked like a nice, smallish college-I wanted to avoid state universities, if I could. I told that to a coworker of mine, who was b***hing about not being promoted as fast as he thought he deserved-he was not that great at his job-and blamed that he was Black for that. It was nonsense-we both worked for the WI Dept of Revenue as Revenue Agents-tax collectors, basically-and he was barely making the minimum number of accounts completed, and that number was set low-as most standards for civil service are.

When I visited Baltimore when I was a kid-about 8 or so, I think, and I saw some water fountains that were marked White and Negro. I wondered how come I could not use the water fountain labelled for B****s only. It never occurred to me that it was to discriminate against the B****s. I always thought that was silly-how many really neat people, people who make you laugh, people who are good friends, who are simply nice do you keep yourself from meeting because you want to segregate b****s from w****s, or reds, or yellows or browns? What a thought. I usually tried to at least strike up an acquaintance with them, because they were so interesting-different experiences, different backgrounds and ideas, and some knew more than just English! Great stuff. So, if the whiners and complainers and crybaby athletes had never knelt, had never used the disrespectful salute, had never stayed in the locker room during the anthem, I had already thought a lot about r****m.

And now I have proof that these babies are over paid, under worked and think way more of themselves than their accomplishments, such as they are, show.

Generally speaking, they have not made one ounce of difference in anyone's life in a meaningful way-let them put some of the big bucks they have into building a school in the inner city, paying the cost of the education of some bright kid who cannot afford to go to college-but then, they would not recognize a bright kid, I guess. Not an athlete, someone who is quiet, smart and hard working-or perhaps they could sponsor a chair in an educational science or something, donate a science lab, sponsor a chair in a symphony-something worthwhile, that actually helps some one get a good start in life. By and large they do not. I know they set up foundations and trusts and stuff, but that is more for tax purposes than to actually help anyone. Of course, they are then touted as some kind of generous hero! Let them put 75% of their salary to that use-they still get huge amounts in endorsements and speaking and stuff-they would not even notice the loss. Sorry, they are the snowflakes-the disloyal to their fans while demanding that fans stick with them-HAH!
It has no effect on me, frankly, except to verify ... (show quote)


Terrific post, jwrevegant

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Sep 16, 2020 18:10:43   #
jwrevagent
 
debeda wrote:
Terrific post, jwrevegant


Thanks.

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Sep 16, 2020 18:44:30   #
plumbob Loc: Common Sense USA
 
jwrevagent wrote:
It has no effect on me, frankly, except to verify my thoughts about most professional sports people and their whining.I have thought about r****m often in the 77 years I have lived here on earth. I have seen it, only not the way you may think-I applied to an all black college back in 1960-I graduated high school in 1961, and their response was that they were not at present enrolling any Caucasians-not by g****r, just by color of skin. I have to say they were very polite about it, and it was OK-the school was in South Carolina, and as far as I know is no longer operating. At any rate, I just thought it was their right to do that-they did not ask me to apply, after all, I wanted to attend the school-I think they had some courses I was interested in, and it looked like a nice, smallish college-I wanted to avoid state universities, if I could.

I told that to a coworker of mine, who was b***hing about not being promoted as fast as he thought he deserved-he was not that great at his job-and blamed that he was Black for that. It was nonsense-we both worked for the WI Dept of Revenue as Revenue Agents-tax collectors, basically-and he was barely making the minimum number of accounts completed, and that number was set low-as most standards for civil service are.

When I visited Baltimore when I was a kid-about 8 or so, I think, and I saw some water fountains that were marked White and Negro. I wondered how come I could not use the water fountain labelled for B****s only. It never occurred to me that it was to discriminate against the B****s. I always thought that was silly-how many really neat people, people who make you laugh, people who are good friends, who are simply nice do you keep yourself from meeting because you want to segregate b****s from w****s, or reds, or yellows or browns? What a thought. I usually tried to at least strike up an acquaintance with them, because they were so interesting-different experiences, different backgrounds and ideas, and some knew more than just English! Great stuff. So, if the whiners and complainers and crybaby athletes had never knelt, had never used the disrespectful salute, had never stayed in the locker room during the anthem, I had already thought a lot about r****m.

And now I have proof that these babies are over paid, under worked and think way more of themselves than their accomplishments, such as they are, show.

Generally speaking, they have not made one ounce of difference in anyone's life in a meaningful way-let them put some of the big bucks they have into building a school in the inner city, paying the cost of the education of some bright kid who cannot afford to go to college-but then, they would not recognize a bright kid, I guess. Not an athlete, someone who is quiet, smart and hard working-or perhaps they could sponsor a chair in an educational science or something, donate a science lab, sponsor a chair in a symphony-something worthwhile, that actually helps some one get a good start in life. By and large they do not. I know they set up foundations and trusts and stuff, but that is more for tax purposes than to actually help anyone. Of course, they are then touted as some kind of generous hero! Let them put 75% of their salary to that use-they still get huge amounts in endorsements and speaking and stuff-they would not even notice the loss. Sorry, they are the snowflakes-the disloyal to their fans while demanding that fans stick with them-HAH!
It has no effect on me, frankly, except to verify ... (show quote)


Well said jw, goes with the way i finished my thread . " why not put your dollars to a good use."

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Sep 16, 2020 19:01:08   #
son of witless
 
lindajoy wrote:
Why not just add withholding your dollars from all those sponsors that look to advertise to the NFL or any of the other sports...

Owners is sports don’t care as long as the money rolling in for them, take the money away and watch to change...

Personally I don’t care one way or the other I’m done with all of it and I was an avid football/baseball fan...


I was a big NBA fan. Now not so much.

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Sep 16, 2020 21:20:56   #
Larry Joe
 
kemmer wrote:
Boo-hoo. Nobody cares if you watch or don’t watch.


As said, you never wore the uniform. You have no idea.
Larry Joe

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Sep 16, 2020 21:23:00   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Here's the problem - - tRump has been inciting violence on the Far Right since his campaigning days, and he's only gotten worse and even more polarized since.

I absolutely DO NOT personally agree with any violence myself, but the Far Left has gotten burned AND burned out over the rhetoric.


What violence from the right ??? you need glasses

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Sep 16, 2020 21:31:59   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
jwrevagent wrote:
It has no effect on me, frankly, except to verify my thoughts about most professional sports people and their whining.I have thought about r****m often in the 77 years I have lived here on earth. I have seen it, only not the way you may think-I applied to an all black college back in 1960-I graduated high school in 1961, and their response was that they were not at present enrolling any Caucasians-not by g****r, just by color of skin. I have to say they were very polite about it, and it was OK-the school was in South Carolina, and as far as I know is no longer operating. At any rate, I just thought it was their right to do that-they did not ask me to apply, after all, I wanted to attend the school-I think they had some courses I was interested in, and it looked like a nice, smallish college-I wanted to avoid state universities, if I could.

I told that to a coworker of mine, who was b***hing about not being promoted as fast as he thought he deserved-he was not that great at his job-and blamed that he was Black for that. It was nonsense-we both worked for the WI Dept of Revenue as Revenue Agents-tax collectors, basically-and he was barely making the minimum number of accounts completed, and that number was set low-as most standards for civil service are.

When I visited Baltimore when I was a kid-about 8 or so, I think, and I saw some water fountains that were marked White and Negro. I wondered how come I could not use the water fountain labelled for B****s only. It never occurred to me that it was to discriminate against the B****s. I always thought that was silly-how many really neat people, people who make you laugh, people who are good friends, who are simply nice do you keep yourself from meeting because you want to segregate b****s from w****s, or reds, or yellows or browns? What a thought. I usually tried to at least strike up an acquaintance with them, because they were so interesting-different experiences, different backgrounds and ideas, and some knew more than just English! Great stuff. So, if the whiners and complainers and crybaby athletes had never knelt, had never used the disrespectful salute, had never stayed in the locker room during the anthem, I had already thought a lot about r****m.

And now I have proof that these babies are over paid, under worked and think way more of themselves than their accomplishments, such as they are, show.

Generally speaking, they have not made one ounce of difference in anyone's life in a meaningful way-let them put some of the big bucks they have into building a school in the inner city, paying the cost of the education of some bright kid who cannot afford to go to college-but then, they would not recognize a bright kid, I guess. Not an athlete, someone who is quiet, smart and hard working-or perhaps they could sponsor a chair in an educational science or something, donate a science lab, sponsor a chair in a symphony-something worthwhile, that actually helps some one get a good start in life. By and large they do not. I know they set up foundations and trusts and stuff, but that is more for tax purposes than to actually help anyone. Of course, they are then touted as some kind of generous hero! Let them put 75% of their salary to that use-they still get huge amounts in endorsements and speaking and stuff-they would not even notice the loss. Sorry, they are the snowflakes-the disloyal to their fans while demanding that fans stick with them-HAH!
It has no effect on me, frankly, except to verify ... (show quote)


way to go all true

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Sep 17, 2020 19:30:11   #
TrueAmerican
 
ACP45 wrote:
"Either way it's a win". Give me F****** break. Roger Goodell, and the owners of those NFL frnchise teams will watch their revenue decline, and will be responsible for the decline of the sport. Yes, I used to love football. But I will not spend a dime of my money supporting what the NFL has become. I hope others like me send the same message.


I wouldn't watch a football, baseball, basketball game or a nascar race if they sent ME the price of the ticket . They are all r****t and I will not participate in r****m !!!!!!

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