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Sep 15, 2020 23:43:11   #
maryjane
 
Lonewolf wrote:
First why do we play the Anthem at games ?
You only pay them if you attend a game.
Our men and women who serve our Country, fight and die so we have the right to protest and those players have the right to freely express their beliefs .
Politics is all it is.


You also pay them when you watch on TV or listen on radio. And exactly what other "real" job allows its employees to protest or push their political beliefs while on the job. There is a time and place for everything but these people are FORCING their views on people forced to buy tickets to be there. And that is just wrong. But these folks are so arrogant and entitled they think they can do anything and their fans will still support them. In my opinion, the best thing that could happen to pro sports is to totally fail and end. They need humbling in the biggest way; need to understand that garbage collectors provide a truly essential job for all of our society, but their job has no real importance in society.

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Sep 15, 2020 23:48:08   #
CarryOn
 
maryjane wrote:
You also pay them when you watch on TV or listen on radio. And exactly what other "real" job allows its employees to protest or push their political beliefs while on the job. There is a time and place for everything but these people are FORCING their views on people forced to buy tickets to be there. And that is just wrong. But these folks are so arrogant and entitled they think they can do anything and their fans will still support them. In my opinion, the best thing that could happen to pro sports is to totally fail and end. They need humbling in the biggest way; need to understand that garbage collectors provide a truly essential job for all of our society, but their job has no real importance in society.
You also pay them when you watch on TV or listen o... (show quote)


Well said!

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Sep 16, 2020 00:04:43   #
CarryOn
 
maryjane wrote:
You also pay them when you watch on TV or listen on radio. And exactly what other "real" job allows its employees to protest or push their political beliefs while on the job. There is a time and place for everything but these people are FORCING their views on people forced to buy tickets to be there. And that is just wrong. But these folks are so arrogant and entitled they think they can do anything and their fans will still support them. In my opinion, the best thing that could happen to pro sports is to totally fail and end. They need humbling in the biggest way; need to understand that garbage collectors provide a truly essential job for all of our society, but their job has no real importance in society.
You also pay them when you watch on TV or listen o... (show quote)


This shows how stupid some of these people can be. Victims??? I think not!



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Sep 16, 2020 01:03:32   #
PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA
 
Lonewolf wrote:
First why do we play the Anthem at games ?
Our men and women who serve our Country, fight and die so we have the right to protest and those players have the right to freely express their beliefs .


No, Lonewolf,
I didn't serve my country for a few could pervert and shame the values of so many who gave so much.
I didn't serve my country for a few could pervert and shame our families who have suffered more than you will probably understand.

I did affirm allegiance that I'd defend this nation against foreign and domestic foes!

Christopher Skeet further elaborates my sentiments.

In defense of our Anthem, Christopher Skeet, American Thinker, 9/10/2020

On September 14, 1814, Francis Scott Key penned "The Star Spangled Banner" after witnessing the bombardment of Fort McHenry during the Battle of Baltimore. In the 200 years since then, it has evolved into one of the most inspiring songs ever written.

Our anthem is globally recognized. It is played at the openings of our professional sports games, with everyone in attendance on their feet (notwithstanding the players — more on that later). It is in countless movies and television shows. It is the most played song at every Olympics.

Our anthem isn't a cookie-cutter mishmash to elusive ideals that one day in some chimerical future we might achieve. "The Star-Spangled Banner" is a detailed account of a specific historical event: the British attack on Fort McHenry during the War of 1812. The entire first stanza, the one recognized and sung today, is a glowing description of Francis Scott Key's realization that, among the explosions and cannon fire, the American flag is still flying over the fort. The United States has won the battle, and our unprecedented experiment in freedom has survived another day. The inspiration of his poem comes not from a recitation of ideals; the raised flag itself is enough. No other allusions are needed, because within the fabric of that flag lives the enduring ubiquity of our freedom that other anthems can only chirp about.

Standing for our anthem is not an act of blind patriotism. IT IS A WIDE-EYED DECLARATION OF RESPECT FOR THE VALUES THE FLAG REPRESENTS AND APPROVAL OF EVERY AMERICAN BULLET FIRED IN THE PERPETUAL STRUGGLE AGAINST TYRANNY. IT IS PRIDE FOR THE FACT THAT, NO MATTER WHAT THE DETRACTORS SAY, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS PRACTICED THOSE VALUES MORE CONSISTENTLY THAN ANY OTHER NATION IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND.

And what of the kneelers? What of Colin Kaepernick and the other persons of unimaginable privilege who owe everything they have to the country they so smugly disrespect? Their supposed beef, against all evidence, is that America is systemically and irredeemably racist. For a moment, let us suspend disbelief and pretend these are genuine statements of social concern and not desperate gambits for attention à la aging radio shock jocks who keep upping the obscenity stunts to stay relevant.

If the kneelers honestly believe that America is racist to the core, then their beef goes well beyond the anthem. If the NFL, the NBA, the NBL, Nike, Wheaties, Sports Illustrated, and all the rest are irredeemably poisoned by racism, then the kneelers have no business entering into open contracts with them. If they continue to profit off these supposedly racist institutions, then they are sellouts peddling their labor to the richest overseer.

Oh, and then there's soccer. FC Dallas and Nashville SC players knelt during the anthem and were booed by fans. FC Dallas's defender Reggie Cannon called the fans' reaction "disgraceful" and "disgusting" in a completely-missing-the-point parody that few besides someone who gets paid to kick a ball could so patently articulate. Cannon sniveled, "They just think we're the ignorant ones." Yep, pretty much.

Cannon doesn't get it. The anthem is an apolitical, unifying song. Those who dishonor it because they feel that their cause du jour isn't getting sufficient attention are putting their personal politics above the unity of the whole. If the Little Sisters of the Poor knelt for the anthem to protest Obamacare's contraception mandate, you can bet the current kneelers and their Siamese media twins would be howling their disdain for those who "sow division."

When this whole kneeling nonsense started up, I'll admit I was offended, even more so as it approached its current high water mark. But now I take it as a matter of pride that washouts like Colin Kaepernick kneel. He and his ilk don't deserve to stand for our anthem. These people openly support dictators and spew racist hatred. They abuse drugs, drive drunk, commit armed robbery, beat and rape women, and murder. Pat Tillmans they are most certainly not. Their values do not reflect those of our national anthem. If the likes of them stood for our anthem, therein would lie the actual disrespect.

So I say to the kneelers, when you grasp what our anthem and flag truly represent, and when you embrace those values over tribalism and tin-pot despotism, much less your own felonious behavior, then you can rise to your feet. And on that day, understand that you stand at 1,000 feet, 1 millimeter, because you're leaning on the shoulders of 1,000-foot giants. Until then, keep kneeling.





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Sep 16, 2020 06:23:25   #
promilitary
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I’m not a football fan, but I’m aware that the pro teams are made up of traitorous, brain dead millionaire criminals. And it would make me extremely happy to see an end of all pro sports except possibly hockey. And maybe the pro fights knocking the sense out of each other.





I prefer rugby.

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Sep 16, 2020 06:26:30   #
promilitary
 
proud republican wrote:
Do you support football players obstainig from National Anthem before the game all in the name of Social Justice ? Should NFL players participate in politics while on the job ( playing football )???I know I was not allowed even talk politics ,much less participate in protests when I used to work!!! Do we pay them to play or to protest ??? If you want to protest for Social Justice , fine.......but do it on your own time!!!




It's in the hands of the owners. If I were an owner I would forbid players from taking part in any such
displays, it would be in their contracts. And that would INCLUDE on their own time.

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Sep 16, 2020 07:02:11   #
trashbaum
 
PulletSurprise wrote:
No, Lonewolf,
I didn't serve my country for a few could pervert and shame the values of so many who gave so much.
I didn't serve my country for a few could pervert and shame our families who have suffered more than you will probably understand.

I did affirm allegiance that I'd defend this nation against foreign and domestic foes!

Christopher Skeet further elaborates my sentiments.

In defense of our Anthem, Christopher Skeet, American Thinker, 9/10/2020

On September 14, 1814, Francis Scott Key penned "The Star Spangled Banner" after witnessing the bombardment of Fort McHenry during the Battle of Baltimore. In the 200 years since then, it has evolved into one of the most inspiring songs ever written.

Our anthem is globally recognized. It is played at the openings of our professional sports games, with everyone in attendance on their feet (notwithstanding the players — more on that later). It is in countless movies and television shows. It is the most played song at every Olympics.

Our anthem isn't a cookie-cutter mishmash to elusive ideals that one day in some chimerical future we might achieve. "The Star-Spangled Banner" is a detailed account of a specific historical event: the British attack on Fort McHenry during the War of 1812. The entire first stanza, the one recognized and sung today, is a glowing description of Francis Scott Key's realization that, among the explosions and cannon fire, the American flag is still flying over the fort. The United States has won the battle, and our unprecedented experiment in freedom has survived another day. The inspiration of his poem comes not from a recitation of ideals; the raised flag itself is enough. No other allusions are needed, because within the fabric of that flag lives the enduring ubiquity of our freedom that other anthems can only chirp about.

Standing for our anthem is not an act of blind patriotism. IT IS A WIDE-EYED DECLARATION OF RESPECT FOR THE VALUES THE FLAG REPRESENTS AND APPROVAL OF EVERY AMERICAN BULLET FIRED IN THE PERPETUAL STRUGGLE AGAINST TYRANNY. IT IS PRIDE FOR THE FACT THAT, NO MATTER WHAT THE DETRACTORS SAY, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS PRACTICED THOSE VALUES MORE CONSISTENTLY THAN ANY OTHER NATION IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND.

And what of the kneelers? What of Colin Kaepernick and the other persons of unimaginable privilege who owe everything they have to the country they so smugly disrespect? Their supposed beef, against all evidence, is that America is systemically and irredeemably racist. For a moment, let us suspend disbelief and pretend these are genuine statements of social concern and not desperate gambits for attention à la aging radio shock jocks who keep upping the obscenity stunts to stay relevant.

If the kneelers honestly believe that America is racist to the core, then their beef goes well beyond the anthem. If the NFL, the NBA, the NBL, Nike, Wheaties, Sports Illustrated, and all the rest are irredeemably poisoned by racism, then the kneelers have no business entering into open contracts with them. If they continue to profit off these supposedly racist institutions, then they are sellouts peddling their labor to the richest overseer.

Oh, and then there's soccer. FC Dallas and Nashville SC players knelt during the anthem and were booed by fans. FC Dallas's defender Reggie Cannon called the fans' reaction "disgraceful" and "disgusting" in a completely-missing-the-point parody that few besides someone who gets paid to kick a ball could so patently articulate. Cannon sniveled, "They just think we're the ignorant ones." Yep, pretty much.

Cannon doesn't get it. The anthem is an apolitical, unifying song. Those who dishonor it because they feel that their cause du jour isn't getting sufficient attention are putting their personal politics above the unity of the whole. If the Little Sisters of the Poor knelt for the anthem to protest Obamacare's contraception mandate, you can bet the current kneelers and their Siamese media twins would be howling their disdain for those who "sow division."

When this whole kneeling nonsense started up, I'll admit I was offended, even more so as it approached its current high water mark. But now I take it as a matter of pride that washouts like Colin Kaepernick kneel. He and his ilk don't deserve to stand for our anthem. These people openly support dictators and spew racist hatred. They abuse drugs, drive drunk, commit armed robbery, beat and rape women, and murder. Pat Tillmans they are most certainly not. Their values do not reflect those of our national anthem. If the likes of them stood for our anthem, therein would lie the actual disrespect.

So I say to the kneelers, when you grasp what our anthem and flag truly represent, and when you embrace those values over tribalism and tin-pot despotism, much less your own felonious behavior, then you can rise to your feet. And on that day, understand that you stand at 1,000 feet, 1 millimeter, because you're leaning on the shoulders of 1,000-foot giants. Until then, keep kneeling.
No, Lonewolf, br I didn't serve my country for a ... (show quote)



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Sep 16, 2020 08:03:41   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
CarryOn wrote:
This shows how stupid some of these people can be. Victims??? I think not!

I think for $11million a year I could put up with that. If he wants to equate a job to slavery, maybe he should look at those who seem to be stuck in minimum wage or near minimum wage jobs because of lack of education or options. They are the ones closest to slavery. It's still not slavery, but it's about as close as you can come to it legally. We know actual slavery still exists, but we are working to eradicate it.

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Sep 16, 2020 08:17:14   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
When you have a life, you don't need the NFL.

Nor do you need to sit in front of a TV watching a bunch of poorly educated muscle brained goobers playing games with balls.

When you actually have a life, you you don't waste your time with such low brow entertainment.


Well said, Wolf...



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Sep 16, 2020 08:20:08   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
https://youtu.be/M1wLtAXDgqg



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Sep 16, 2020 08:44:05   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
CarryOn wrote:
This shows how stupid some of these people can be. Victims??? I think not!


If that is how this peckerwood feels, and evidently it is...maybe he should hang up his cleats, return the money he has been paid (notice I didn't say "earned") then take his previliged, uneducated ass out and find a job that doesn't require playing with a ball. (The reason I say uneducated is that even tho he may have a college diploma he was there to play a game, not get an education. Ask yourself how many of these college scholarshiped ball players have any student loans???? )
To me, too many professional athletes should concentrate on what they are paid quite handsomely to do, PLAY BALL! Not bring politics to the field, court or diamond, that is not what the fans pay for.

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Sep 16, 2020 08:52:02   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
PulletSurprise wrote:
No, Lonewolf,
I didn't serve my country for a few could pervert and shame the values of so many who gave so much.
I didn't serve my country for a few could pervert and shame our families who have suffered more than you will probably understand.

I did affirm allegiance that I'd defend this nation against foreign and domestic foes!

Christopher Skeet further elaborates my sentiments.

In defense of our Anthem, Christopher Skeet, American Thinker, 9/10/2020

On September 14, 1814, Francis Scott Key penned "The Star Spangled Banner" after witnessing the bombardment of Fort McHenry during the Battle of Baltimore. In the 200 years since then, it has evolved into one of the most inspiring songs ever written.

Our anthem is globally recognized. It is played at the openings of our professional sports games, with everyone in attendance on their feet (notwithstanding the players — more on that later). It is in countless movies and television shows. It is the most played song at every Olympics.

Our anthem isn't a cookie-cutter mishmash to elusive ideals that one day in some chimerical future we might achieve. "The Star-Spangled Banner" is a detailed account of a specific historical event: the British attack on Fort McHenry during the War of 1812. The entire first stanza, the one recognized and sung today, is a glowing description of Francis Scott Key's realization that, among the explosions and cannon fire, the American flag is still flying over the fort. The United States has won the battle, and our unprecedented experiment in freedom has survived another day. The inspiration of his poem comes not from a recitation of ideals; the raised flag itself is enough. No other allusions are needed, because within the fabric of that flag lives the enduring ubiquity of our freedom that other anthems can only chirp about.

Standing for our anthem is not an act of blind patriotism. IT IS A WIDE-EYED DECLARATION OF RESPECT FOR THE VALUES THE FLAG REPRESENTS AND APPROVAL OF EVERY AMERICAN BULLET FIRED IN THE PERPETUAL STRUGGLE AGAINST TYRANNY. IT IS PRIDE FOR THE FACT THAT, NO MATTER WHAT THE DETRACTORS SAY, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS PRACTICED THOSE VALUES MORE CONSISTENTLY THAN ANY OTHER NATION IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND.

And what of the kneelers? What of Colin Kaepernick and the other persons of unimaginable privilege who owe everything they have to the country they so smugly disrespect? Their supposed beef, against all evidence, is that America is systemically and irredeemably racist. For a moment, let us suspend disbelief and pretend these are genuine statements of social concern and not desperate gambits for attention à la aging radio shock jocks who keep upping the obscenity stunts to stay relevant.

If the kneelers honestly believe that America is racist to the core, then their beef goes well beyond the anthem. If the NFL, the NBA, the NBL, Nike, Wheaties, Sports Illustrated, and all the rest are irredeemably poisoned by racism, then the kneelers have no business entering into open contracts with them. If they continue to profit off these supposedly racist institutions, then they are sellouts peddling their labor to the richest overseer.

Oh, and then there's soccer. FC Dallas and Nashville SC players knelt during the anthem and were booed by fans. FC Dallas's defender Reggie Cannon called the fans' reaction "disgraceful" and "disgusting" in a completely-missing-the-point parody that few besides someone who gets paid to kick a ball could so patently articulate. Cannon sniveled, "They just think we're the ignorant ones." Yep, pretty much.

Cannon doesn't get it. The anthem is an apolitical, unifying song. Those who dishonor it because they feel that their cause du jour isn't getting sufficient attention are putting their personal politics above the unity of the whole. If the Little Sisters of the Poor knelt for the anthem to protest Obamacare's contraception mandate, you can bet the current kneelers and their Siamese media twins would be howling their disdain for those who "sow division."

When this whole kneeling nonsense started up, I'll admit I was offended, even more so as it approached its current high water mark. But now I take it as a matter of pride that washouts like Colin Kaepernick kneel. He and his ilk don't deserve to stand for our anthem. These people openly support dictators and spew racist hatred. They abuse drugs, drive drunk, commit armed robbery, beat and rape women, and murder. Pat Tillmans they are most certainly not. Their values do not reflect those of our national anthem. If the likes of them stood for our anthem, therein would lie the actual disrespect.

So I say to the kneelers, when you grasp what our anthem and flag truly represent, and when you embrace those values over tribalism and tin-pot despotism, much less your own felonious behavior, then you can rise to your feet. And on that day, understand that you stand at 1,000 feet, 1 millimeter, because you're leaning on the shoulders of 1,000-foot giants. Until then, keep kneeling.
No, Lonewolf, br I didn't serve my country for a ... (show quote)


Hot Damn son, I believe Mr. Skeet has hit the nail squarely on the head!!!!!
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SGM B out

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Sep 16, 2020 16:52:47   #
trashbaum
 
lindajoy wrote:
https://youtu.be/M1wLtAXDgqg


You are a great and wise girl Linda, the Country is proud of you.

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Sep 16, 2020 17:36:25   #
esach
 
NFL is an entertainment function, political essays or or other statements should not be allowed.

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Sep 16, 2020 17:36:54   #
jwrevagent
 
PulletSurprise wrote:
No, Lonewolf,
I didn't serve my country for a few could pervert and shame the values of so many who gave so much.
I didn't serve my country for a few could pervert and shame our families who have suffered more than you will probably understand.

I did affirm allegiance that I'd defend this nation against foreign and domestic foes!

Christopher Skeet further elaborates my sentiments.

In defense of our Anthem, Christopher Skeet, American Thinker, 9/10/2020

On September 14, 1814, Francis Scott Key penned "The Star Spangled Banner" after witnessing the bombardment of Fort McHenry during the Battle of Baltimore. In the 200 years since then, it has evolved into one of the most inspiring songs ever written.

Our anthem is globally recognized. It is played at the openings of our professional sports games, with everyone in attendance on their feet (notwithstanding the players — more on that later). It is in countless movies and television shows. It is the most played song at every Olympics.

Our anthem isn't a cookie-cutter mishmash to elusive ideals that one day in some chimerical future we might achieve. "The Star-Spangled Banner" is a detailed account of a specific historical event: the British attack on Fort McHenry during the War of 1812. The entire first stanza, the one recognized and sung today, is a glowing description of Francis Scott Key's realization that, among the explosions and cannon fire, the American flag is still flying over the fort. The United States has won the battle, and our unprecedented experiment in freedom has survived another day. The inspiration of his poem comes not from a recitation of ideals; the raised flag itself is enough. No other allusions are needed, because within the fabric of that flag lives the enduring ubiquity of our freedom that other anthems can only chirp about.

Standing for our anthem is not an act of blind patriotism. IT IS A WIDE-EYED DECLARATION OF RESPECT FOR THE VALUES THE FLAG REPRESENTS AND APPROVAL OF EVERY AMERICAN BULLET FIRED IN THE PERPETUAL STRUGGLE AGAINST TYRANNY. IT IS PRIDE FOR THE FACT THAT, NO MATTER WHAT THE DETRACTORS SAY, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS PRACTICED THOSE VALUES MORE CONSISTENTLY THAN ANY OTHER NATION IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND.

And what of the kneelers? What of Colin Kaepernick and the other persons of unimaginable privilege who owe everything they have to the country they so smugly disrespect? Their supposed beef, against all evidence, is that America is systemically and irredeemably racist. For a moment, let us suspend disbelief and pretend these are genuine statements of social concern and not desperate gambits for attention à la aging radio shock jocks who keep upping the obscenity stunts to stay relevant.

If the kneelers honestly believe that America is racist to the core, then their beef goes well beyond the anthem. If the NFL, the NBA, the NBL, Nike, Wheaties, Sports Illustrated, and all the rest are irredeemably poisoned by racism, then the kneelers have no business entering into open contracts with them. If they continue to profit off these supposedly racist institutions, then they are sellouts peddling their labor to the richest overseer.

Oh, and then there's soccer. FC Dallas and Nashville SC players knelt during the anthem and were booed by fans. FC Dallas's defender Reggie Cannon called the fans' reaction "disgraceful" and "disgusting" in a completely-missing-the-point parody that few besides someone who gets paid to kick a ball could so patently articulate. Cannon sniveled, "They just think we're the ignorant ones." Yep, pretty much.

Cannon doesn't get it. The anthem is an apolitical, unifying song. Those who dishonor it because they feel that their cause du jour isn't getting sufficient attention are putting their personal politics above the unity of the whole. If the Little Sisters of the Poor knelt for the anthem to protest Obamacare's contraception mandate, you can bet the current kneelers and their Siamese media twins would be howling their disdain for those who "sow division."

When this whole kneeling nonsense started up, I'll admit I was offended, even more so as it approached its current high water mark. But now I take it as a matter of pride that washouts like Colin Kaepernick kneel. He and his ilk don't deserve to stand for our anthem. These people openly support dictators and spew racist hatred. They abuse drugs, drive drunk, commit armed robbery, beat and rape women, and murder. Pat Tillmans they are most certainly not. Their values do not reflect those of our national anthem. If the likes of them stood for our anthem, therein would lie the actual disrespect.

So I say to the kneelers, when you grasp what our anthem and flag truly represent, and when you embrace those values over tribalism and tin-pot despotism, much less your own felonious behavior, then you can rise to your feet. And on that day, understand that you stand at 1,000 feet, 1 millimeter, because you're leaning on the shoulders of 1,000-foot giants. Until then, keep kneeling.
No, Lonewolf, br I didn't serve my country for a ... (show quote)


Thank you for that. Great Post!

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