Well, that's easy... Cutting emissions is an expense that represents the money industries would get for not doing it. This includes (but is not limited to) the money that would be spent on carbon capture technology, loss of potential profit from lower output and further up the supply chain, a loss of potential profit from the sale of f****l f**l.

This apparently adds up to a lot of money because millions are being spent on media campaigns to try and convince people that there is nothing wrong with their pollution. It's good for grass, it's good for trees... Oh and you can't ever have too much of it. Yay pollution!

So there's your money trail, bro.

The countries that are progressing into the the real future are for the most part real nations. We are not a real nation and I think that's a key difference.

I suppose I'll need to explain this...

Let's just take some samples... France, Germany and... let's say, Norway. In France, they speak French. In Germany they speak German, in Norway they speak Norwegian. True nations develop over thousands of years and almost always have their own language. It's one thing that makes them unique as a nation. On the other hand, Americans speak English, Colombians speak Spanish, Brazilians speak Portuguese. These are not true nations of people... These countries are essentially business enterprises initiated much later in history during the Imperial Age as colonies (property of other nations). Those other nations are easily identified by the language spoken... the American colonies were owned by England, the true nation that created the English language. Colombia was owned by Spain, Brazil was owned by Portugal, etc...

But the language of other nations isn't the only thing that former colonies have clung to. They have also clung to the primary purpose of a colony; to operate as an enterprise. The foundation of our republic was laid down by privileged landlords in a colonial enterprise system and to this day our republic continues to put priority on business not people. Even our culture submits to the idea that business has to be served first.

In contrast, real nations put people first because that's what a nation is... people. The French government for instance can't escape their obligation to the French nation. But the U.S. can because there *is* no American nation... there is an American enterprise powered by a population of workers with hyphenated nationalities because less than 20% of them have roots that go back any further than three generations in America.

This is why people in America can't get healthcare unless they work. In France people get healthcare for being French.

This doesn't mean efforts in America to put people first don't exist. Obviously they do and this is a defining feature of the American Left. It's also a defining feature of the Columbian left, the Brazilian left, etc...But the struggles on the left to put people first have far less clout in the countries that lack true nationality. This is why so many l*****t movements in Latin America have failed while they have been so successful in Europe.

I think this is a vastly understated reason why people in places like France and Norway are better served by their respective governments and why they are not ens***ed by industry the way we are.

Short answer - no, I don't. But Farage isn't my countryman. I am an American.

Granted, I was born in England but I've been here since I was two years old. My only recollection of England is from a project over there that I worked on as an American visitor in the 80's.

For some reason, Eagle just likes to spread around the misinformation about me being a "limey". I probably find it as amusing as he does.

Fun fact: American pop icon Bob Hope was also born in England.