Military march in gay parade but not allowed to visit vacation bible school children
Military bars troops from attending Vacation Bible school honor
Todd Starnes
By Todd Starnes
·Published July 25, 2014
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Bible Baptist Church in Carthage, Missouri is a small country church bursting with American p***e. Old Glory is posted in the sanctuary. And every morning at summer youth camp, the teenagers pledge allegiance and sing the national anthem.
Patriotic holidays are big doings at Bible Baptist. On Memorial Day, the church ladies put out quite a spread fried chicken, potato salad. Veterans would wear their uniforms and the preacher would salute them during the morning worship service.
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We are a very patriotic church, Pastor Kent Hogan told me. We love America. We love this country.
So it was not that big of a surprise when the church decided to honor the military during their annual Vacation Bible School. The theme was Gods Rescue Squad. And each day of the week, the church invited local rescue squads to visit with the boys and girls.
The paramedics came on Monday and on Tuesday, the fire department showed up. The boys and girls were taught how to stop, drop and roll. On Wednesday, the Jasper County Sheriffs Dept. brought their K-9 unit..
But our story picks up with what happened on Thursday. That was the day when the church was supposed to honor the National Guard. They had invited troops from the nearby armory to drop by with one of their Humvees.
We were going to thank them for protecting our religious liberty, said Pastor Hogan. It was more of a promotion for the military to show the kids what the military does.
But the National Guard did not visit Bible Baptist Church on Thursday night, and the reason why has caused great anger and frustration among church members.
We were told it was against military policy for National Guard troops to participate in Vacation Bible School, Pastor Hogan said. They said if the National Guard had assets on church property it would look like the National Guard is sponsoring the Baptist religion.
Pastor Hogan said he was dumbfounded.
We are right in the middle of the United States of America, the pastor said. We are part of the Bible Belt. You read about this stuff going on in big cities. But in Carthage?
The pastor said the military was concerned about people getting offended by the sight of National Guard troops visiting a church.
They said they didnt want to offend anybody. Well, its offended our whole church.
So Pastor Hogan reached out to his state representative a Republican named Mike Kelley. Kelley then called the adjunct general of the Missouri National Guard.
They told me that federal policy prohibits them from doing anything with any specific church, Kelley said. The guys on the state level did everything they could. I have great respect for our local Missouri National Guard. But we are dealing with an over-burdensome federal regulation.
The Missouri National Guard did not return my calls for comment but it doesnt matter. Kelley sent me a copy of the Army regulation.
It states: Army participation must not selectively benefit (or appear to benefit) any person, group, or corporation (whether profit or nonprofit); religion, sect, religious or sectarian group, or quasi-religious or ideological movement.
The policy also states that troops are to avoid any activities that might involve or appear to involve the promotion, endorsement, or sponsorship of any religious or sectarian movement.
Rep. Kelley told me he is incredibly disappointed with the federal policy and feels especially bad for the church.
He (Pastor Hogan) basically got blown off by the federal government, Kelley said.
Several members of the Missouri National Guard told me they were disgusted by what happened. They only agreed to be quoted provided I not disclose their identities.
I can tell you Im ashamed and embarrassed right now, one Guardsman said. This isnt the military I signed up for.
Other soldiers said it was extremely disappointing and embarrassing.
We had a lot of disappointed kiddos because of the National Guard being unwilling to allow a Humvee and a few soldiers to spend an hour at a Baptist Church, another Guardsman said. It makes we wonder what Im actually fighting for.
But I believe this soldiers observations and analysis truly sum up our nations current state of affairs.
I will never understand why its okay for the military to march in a gay p***e parade but not be allowed to spend an hour talking to children who look up to them (soldiers), the Guardsman said. I honestly never thought Id see the day that this would happen in my hometown.
In June, the Department of Defense gave permission for a military color guard to march in Washington, D.C.s gay p***e parade. It marked the first time in history the U.S. Army Military District of Washington participated in the parade.
Pastor Hogan said the entire incident is both appalling and ludicrous.
I dont think most Americans realize how much their religious liberty is in jeopardy, he said. If they did this to us how bad is it somewhere else? This is not just a big city issue. This is a small town America issue. Americans need to wake up.
Welcome to the age of enlightenment, Pastor Hogan - where the military can march in a gay p***e parade but they cant hang out with six-year-olds at Vacation Bible School.
Todd Starnes is host of Fox News & Commentary, heard on hundreds of radio stations. Sign up for his American Dispatch newsletter, be sure to join his Facebook page, and follow him on Twitter. His latest book is "God Less America."
Chameleon wrote:
Military don't have any business at no dam vacation bible school. DUMBASS
you need to shut the f*ck up!!! high ranking brass who suck on obama's thingy (like you) who 'regulate' the armed services religious beliefs need to be fragged on primetime TV. tell me i can't go to a church?....then i will turn my weapon on you! case f*cking closed!!!!!!!!!!
semper-fi wrote:
Military bars troops from attending Vacation Bible school honor
Todd Starnes
By Todd Starnes
·Published July 25, 2014
·FoxNews.com
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A Soldier on f**g detail prepares to fold Old Glory. (U.S. Army/Sgt. John Carkeet IV)
Bible Baptist Church in Carthage, Missouri is a small country church bursting with American p***e. Old Glory is posted in the sanctuary. And every morning at summer youth camp, the teenagers pledge allegiance and sing the national anthem.
Patriotic holidays are big doings at Bible Baptist. On Memorial Day, the church ladies put out quite a spread fried chicken, potato salad. Veterans would wear their uniforms and the preacher would salute them during the morning worship service.
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We are a very patriotic church, Pastor Kent Hogan told me. We love America. We love this country.
So it was not that big of a surprise when the church decided to honor the military during their annual Vacation Bible School. The theme was Gods Rescue Squad. And each day of the week, the church invited local rescue squads to visit with the boys and girls.
The paramedics came on Monday and on Tuesday, the fire department showed up. The boys and girls were taught how to stop, drop and roll. On Wednesday, the Jasper County Sheriffs Dept. brought their K-9 unit..
But our story picks up with what happened on Thursday. That was the day when the church was supposed to honor the National Guard. They had invited troops from the nearby armory to drop by with one of their Humvees.
We were going to thank them for protecting our religious liberty, said Pastor Hogan. It was more of a promotion for the military to show the kids what the military does.
But the National Guard did not visit Bible Baptist Church on Thursday night, and the reason why has caused great anger and frustration among church members.
We were told it was against military policy for National Guard troops to participate in Vacation Bible School, Pastor Hogan said. They said if the National Guard had assets on church property it would look like the National Guard is sponsoring the Baptist religion.
Pastor Hogan said he was dumbfounded.
We are right in the middle of the United States of America, the pastor said. We are part of the Bible Belt. You read about this stuff going on in big cities. But in Carthage?
The pastor said the military was concerned about people getting offended by the sight of National Guard troops visiting a church.
They said they didnt want to offend anybody. Well, its offended our whole church.
So Pastor Hogan reached out to his state representative a Republican named Mike Kelley. Kelley then called the adjunct general of the Missouri National Guard.
They told me that federal policy prohibits them from doing anything with any specific church, Kelley said. The guys on the state level did everything they could. I have great respect for our local Missouri National Guard. But we are dealing with an over-burdensome federal regulation.
The Missouri National Guard did not return my calls for comment but it doesnt matter. Kelley sent me a copy of the Army regulation.
It states: Army participation must not selectively benefit (or appear to benefit) any person, group, or corporation (whether profit or nonprofit); religion, sect, religious or sectarian group, or quasi-religious or ideological movement.
The policy also states that troops are to avoid any activities that might involve or appear to involve the promotion, endorsement, or sponsorship of any religious or sectarian movement.
Rep. Kelley told me he is incredibly disappointed with the federal policy and feels especially bad for the church.
He (Pastor Hogan) basically got blown off by the federal government, Kelley said.
Several members of the Missouri National Guard told me they were disgusted by what happened. They only agreed to be quoted provided I not disclose their identities.
I can tell you Im ashamed and embarrassed right now, one Guardsman said. This isnt the military I signed up for.
Other soldiers said it was extremely disappointing and embarrassing.
We had a lot of disappointed kiddos because of the National Guard being unwilling to allow a Humvee and a few soldiers to spend an hour at a Baptist Church, another Guardsman said. It makes we wonder what Im actually fighting for.
But I believe this soldiers observations and analysis truly sum up our nations current state of affairs.
I will never understand why its okay for the military to march in a gay p***e parade but not be allowed to spend an hour talking to children who look up to them (soldiers), the Guardsman said. I honestly never thought Id see the day that this would happen in my hometown.
In June, the Department of Defense gave permission for a military color guard to march in Washington, D.C.s gay p***e parade. It marked the first time in history the U.S. Army Military District of Washington participated in the parade.
Pastor Hogan said the entire incident is both appalling and ludicrous.
I dont think most Americans realize how much their religious liberty is in jeopardy, he said. If they did this to us how bad is it somewhere else? This is not just a big city issue. This is a small town America issue. Americans need to wake up.
Welcome to the age of enlightenment, Pastor Hogan - where the military can march in a gay p***e parade but they cant hang out with six-year-olds at Vacation Bible School.
Todd Starnes is host of Fox News & Commentary, heard on hundreds of radio stations. Sign up for his American Dispatch newsletter, be sure to join his Facebook page, and follow him on Twitter. His latest book is "God Less America."
Military bars troops from attending Vacation Bible... (
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alot of this iz because of an organization called FFR which means freedom from religion. this organization iz an atheist group who has no right to interfere in anyone's religious regardless if someone is in the military. you would think religion would flourich in the military for obvious reasons
Chameleon wrote:
Military don't have any business at no dam vacation bible school. DUMBASS
They've got no business at a f*g parade either, DUMBER ASS!!
Chameleon wrote:
DUMBASS. ..screw you and your phoney ass religion that is your personal business you have no. Right to pump that garbage on other people. Remember you're not the only one with a weapon so you can try that ignorant s**t if you want to all you will miss is your powder , I will throw your lead rite back at you. Go ahead DUMBASS make my day.
I bet you were at the parade too right SWEETIE? :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :hunf:
Chameleon wrote:
America has always been Godless so what else is new? You ignorant R****T are always talking about God, God wouldn't have anything to do with you r****t barbarians. To Hell with you Satan.
i have more respect for the godless taliban than i have for cunstainz like you. people like you need to say 10 'hail mary's' everyday for 40 years.
Chameleon wrote:
Military don't have any business at no dam vacation bible school. DUMBASS
Your comment was out of line, and name calling will endear you to no one.
Anger destroys the vessel in which it's stored, much more than the one on which it's poured.
cesspool jones wrote:
i have more respect for the godless taliban than i have for cunstainz like you. people like you need to say 10 'hail mary's' everyday for 40 years.
Bet YOU were at the parade right SWEETIE?
Chameleon wrote:
Screw hail Mary. And you too.
Bet you were at the parade right SWEETIE?? FRONT ROW TOO
Chameleon wrote:
Screw hail Mary. And you too.
I KNEW IT!!!YOU WERE AT THAT PARADE TOO WEREN't YOU Sweetie???
Chameleon wrote:
Screw hail Mary. And you too.
Tell you what, dipwad, I can easily see that you are a person of great intelligence. I love the colorful way you use our language to express yourself, you are a master linguist
But I have this against you, you are constantly on the attack and without cause, your always disparaging other folk. You have a mind and a tongue filled with poison. So for me, see ya, wont be talking with you again. :hunf: :hunf: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
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