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Jul 22, 2014 12:02:01   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Our left leaners have been hitting at what the Wilberforce law says about what we can do with the present minor immigrants from Central America. Here is a new definition of the law and what it actually says about who can and can't be deported. I guess some people won't like hearing the video since the man says something other than what the Democrats want to be heard about the law.

http://www.dickmorris.com/law-allows-immediate-deportation-immigrant-children-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports

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Jul 22, 2014 13:17:45   #
grace scott
 
oldroy wrote:
Our left leaners have been hitting at what the Wilberforce law says about what we can do with the present minor immigrants from Central America. Here is a new definition of the law and what it actually says about who can and can't be deported. I guess some people won't like hearing the video since the man says something other than what the Democrats want to be heard about the law.

http://www.dickmorris.com/law-allows-immediate-deportation-immigrant-children-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports
Our left leaners have been hitting at what the Wil... (show quote)




I am confused. Why would a democrat not prefer that the situation not be handled in this manner? I haven't heard anyone screaming "let's keep 'em." I thought all of us wanted to get rid of them.

These people are leaving horrible conditions, but we cannot be the mother of the world. And we needs to quit being the police force of the world.

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Jul 22, 2014 13:35:30   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
grace scott wrote:
I am confused. Why would a democrat not prefer that the situation not be handled in this manner? I haven't heard anyone screaming "let's keep 'em." I thought all of us wanted to get rid of them.

These people are leaving horrible conditions, but we cannot be the mother of the world. And we needs to quit being the police force of the world.



Dang Gracie, here I am, again, in concert with you.

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Jul 22, 2014 13:37:10   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
grace scott wrote:
I am confused. Why would a democrat not prefer that the situation not be handled in this manner? I haven't heard anyone screaming "let's keep 'em." I thought all of us wanted to get rid of them.

These people are leaving horrible conditions, but we cannot be the mother of the world. And we needs to quit being the police force of the world.


Since almost every one of them, aside from the members of terrorist groups, is coming here to get the things that living here can provide for them they are immigrants and can be immediately deported. I guess the MS13 members would fill in for the Dems beliefs.

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Jul 22, 2014 14:27:11   #
grace scott
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Dang Gracie, here I am, again, in concert with you.




If you and I can agree on something, then there is hope for harmony in this world. Not much hope, but a little.

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Jul 22, 2014 15:11:32   #
Comment Loc: California
 
grace scott wrote:
I am confused. Why would a democrat not prefer that the situation not be handled in this manner? I haven't heard anyone screaming "let's keep 'em." I thought all of us wanted to get rid of them.

These people are leaving horrible conditions, but we cannot be the mother of the world. And we needs to quit being the police force of the world.


My Dear Grace: Just look at the facts and draw conclusions from them.

1. They are illegal immigrants legally available for deportation.

2. Gang members 12-18 are being allowed in and turned lose. Many have admitted to killing others.

3. children are being treated as victims if slave trading which is not the case. But, Obama is the boss of HLS AND HIS POLICY IS NON-DEPORTATION under the sex slave act. It is Obuma's policy as to how they are treated. It is detrimental to you, your kids and grand kids.The impact of these children being assimilated into the United States is going to bankrupt a lot of people. Seniors will lose their home to higher taxes because new schools have to be built, medical care and welfare, medicare and so on. The costs associated with them will be in the 100s of billions which will continue for decades.

What blows my mind is that poor and rich progressives seem to think that the US can support any # of dumb down, poor. At some point the money will run out. Not over night but, perhaps a 20% cut year after year. At some point the poor will rise up and turn on those that are depleting their income. The middle class will rise up and fight mandatory taxation. Is our economy ever to recover? 100 million are still out of work after 6 years. But, obuma is doing a good job running the country. Joke, joke.

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Jul 22, 2014 15:41:56   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Billhuggins wrote:
My Dear Grace: Just look at the facts and draw conclusions from them.

1. They are illegal immigrants legally available for deportation.

2. Gang members 12-18 are being allowed in and turned lose. Many have admitted to killing others.

3. children are being treated as victims if slave trading which is not the case. But, Obama is the boss of HLS AND HIS POLICY IS NON-DEPORTATION under the sex slave act. It is Obuma's policy as to how they are treated. It is detrimental to you, your kids and grand kids.The impact of these children being assimilated into the United States is going to bankrupt a lot of people. Seniors will lose their home to higher taxes because new schools have to be built, medical care and welfare, medicare and so on. The costs associated with them will be in the 100s of billions which will continue for decades.

What blows my mind is that poor and rich progressives seem to think that the US can support any # of dumb down, poor. At some point the money will run out. Not over night but, perhaps a 20% cut year after year. At some point the poor will rise up and turn on those that are depleting their income. The middle class will rise up and fight mandatory taxation. Is our economy ever to recover? 100 million are still out of work after 6 years. But, obuma is doing a good job running the country. Joke, joke.
My Dear Grace: Just look at the facts and draw con... (show quote)


Too many people just don't understand that those who have dropped out of the workforce are still unemployed. They accept the numbers from the left as if they were true.

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Jul 22, 2014 15:54:42   #
grace scott
 
oldroy wrote:
Too many people just don't understand that those who have dropped out of the workforce are still unemployed. They accept the numbers from the left as if they were true.



Surely no on is that stupid. If the numbers go up, people lost jobs. If the number go down, people got jobs. This has nothing to do with those who have lost unemployment benefits.

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Jul 22, 2014 16:02:50   #
Comment Loc: California
 
oldroy wrote:
Too many people just don't understand that those who have dropped out of the workforce are still unemployed. They accept the numbers from the left as if they were true.


I agree. As you know lots have applied for disability SS others have stopped looking for work and others are dropped off unemployment. None of these groups are counted in the gov. statistics. Welfare recips out number the working folk. That's what I am saying. The currant system will not survive. Ryan is right but nobody wanted to listen and the demos demolished him and Romney. This what gets me. Grace Scott said here the other day that Romney was evil. That he was rich. That he was bad. I suppose her state of mind is that one is a bad person If one has accumulated wealth and made money by closing some failing businesses so that jobs could be saved and created somewhere else. That he inherited millions from his father, a former Governor of Mi. and he gave it all to charity. Meanwhile, Obuma was a multimillionaire but he is judged by a different standard. I guess, because he was a low life Community Organizer radical of Saul Alinsky. I guess that makes him for the little guy. He'll give out more to the little guy that this rich bastard republican that has no regard for the poor little folk. Voters are so poor and dumb the country will never return to greatness ever again.

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Jul 22, 2014 16:09:11   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
grace scott wrote:
Surely no on is that stupid. If the numbers go up, people lost jobs. If the number go down, people got jobs. This has nothing to do with those who have lost unemployment benefits.



Actually, it does.

In NC the legislature cut unemployment benefits to 350$ for a total of 14 weeks. Miraculously, the unemployment rate dropped considerably despite the fact that NC lost jobs during that period.

Of course, the legislature is taking credit for the lower rate without mentioning the 'drop outs'.

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Jul 22, 2014 16:24:14   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
grace scott wrote:
Surely no on is that stupid. If the numbers go up, people lost jobs. If the number go down, people got jobs. This has nothing to do with those who have lost unemployment benefits.


Surely you don't believe that crap! The way that unemployment is figured by the federal government is set to drop if the number of new applicants is less than the number of people who cease looking for employment.

If everyone without a job just quit looking for work and stopped drawing unemployment benefits, and no one new signed up for unemployment, .... the reported national unemployment rate would be 0%. Fake numbers, but it helps politicians keep their jobs.

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Jul 22, 2014 16:36:29   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
working class stiff wrote:
Actually, it does.

In NC the legislature cut unemployment benefits to 350$ for a total of 14 weeks. Miraculously, the unemployment rate dropped considerably despite the fact that NC lost jobs during that period.

Of course, the legislature is taking credit for the lower rate without mentioning the 'drop outs'.


Sorry...meant to document.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/john-hood-north-carolina-got-it-right-on-unemployment-benefits-1404509638


http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2014/03/28/north-carolina-had-more-job-losses-than-any-other-state/

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Jul 22, 2014 17:19:53   #
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Jul 24, 2014 01:16:12   #
Ricktloml
 
grace scott wrote:
I am confused. Why would a democrat not prefer that the situation not be handled in this manner? I haven't heard anyone screaming "let's keep 'em." I thought all of us wanted to get rid of them.

These people are leaving horrible conditions, but we cannot be the mother of the world. And we needs to quit being the police force of the world.


why would a Democrat not prefer that these illegals be deported?! Because they want a permanent underclass who will vote Democrat . Their only concern is power and control. That is why they have twisted this law to further their radical leftist agenda. And the collaborative media has been happy to again repeat the lies told by this administration just like they did when Obama told calculated lies repeatedly about Obamacare. And just as the media spewed the propaganda about Obamacare, they also savaged those who did tell the truth, and they are now demonizing those who tell the truth about this planned invasion

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Jul 24, 2014 20:00:16   #
Peaver Bogart Loc: Montana
 
Ricktloml wrote:
why would a Democrat not prefer that these illegals be deported?! Because they want a permanent underclass who will vote Democrat . Their only concern is power and control. That is why they have twisted this law to further their radical leftist agenda. And the collaborative media has been happy to again repeat the lies told by this administration just like they did when Obama told calculated lies repeatedly about Obamacare. And just as the media spewed the propaganda about Obamacare, they also savaged those who did tell the truth, and they are now demonizing those who tell the truth about this planned invasion
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