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Aug 2, 2020 00:11:04   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
EmilyD wrote:
Do I trigger you, ducky?


No mam.
You are not a consequence!
You’re just another cult member waiting in line for kool aid!

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Aug 2, 2020 00:15:35   #
EmilyD
 
Milosia2 wrote:
No mam.
You are not a consequence!
You’re just another cult member waiting in line for kool aid!


And you are funny! You just triggered yourself!

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Aug 2, 2020 07:23:18   #
Army
 
Well George Washington said no more trade as if what we have now is over be no more . He knew the problems it caused. These so can Officials aren't dignified moral ethical or have your interest at heart they only Rob the til . It amazes me how much money they spend that taxes are paid & give away anyone have any stats on that.
Iam on the fence in farmers try see both side an fair deals need always be done we know there not . I like to believe Trump is making better . But if it even helps the masses in general with cost food at higher levels than ever in history or common good . I wish we could see more product's being sold directly to people from the farms fresh & dairy two. Iam from Indiana an all flat farm ground but can't buy anything unless store or who knows where it's from or cares anymore. Farmers markets aren't enough ether it's mostly made only for profit not stability & be more directly sufficient somehow.
When I was a kid we had two dairies here big farms that supplied milk we had in schools an stores in our town . They gave destroyed that many many years ago. Stores like Walmart have bought all the farmers off put sanctions on them with there evil business purposes control weather greens ,beef ,chicken or eggs your not going sell without them. They go in stores an use computers ( many years ago ) that calculates everyone's prices and delivers it back to their stores and lower there's until they run everyone out of business and then they raised their prices even higher pretty dirty.
But I'd like see percentage sold back to towns an goods kept there help sustained towns work labor fresh & local sufficient. Our towns have been took over by big business that not working in our interest they drain towns city's an world . We have lost the small town culture trust stability & efficiency. Like the electric bill now you're punished and pay more if you try and save or keep your bills your bill down you actually pay more an that's evil business. We all know the more self efficient we are and every way is better and more honest safer an makes more sense right . Now we need something protect the People A Sales & Trade Act Of The People that protects them there towns an there own business to from infringement & control of it all.
Anyway that's my take on it .

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Aug 2, 2020 07:46:40   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Army wrote:
Well George Washington said no more trade as if what we have now is over be no more . He knew the problems it caused. These so can Officials aren't dignified moral ethical or have your interest at heart they only Rob the til . It amazes me how much money they spend that taxes are paid & give away anyone have any stats on that.
Iam on the fence in farmers try see both side an fair deals need always be done we know there not . I like to believe Trump is making better . But if it even helps the masses in general with cost food at higher levels than ever in history or common good . I wish we could see more product's being sold directly to people from the farms fresh & dairy two. Iam from Indiana an all flat farm ground but can't buy anything unless store or who knows where it's from or cares anymore. Farmers markets aren't enough ether it's mostly made only for profit not stability & be more directly sufficient somehow.
When I was a kid we had two dairies here big farms that supplied milk we had in schools an stores in our town . They gave destroyed that many many years ago. Stores like Walmart have bought all the farmers off put sanctions on them with there evil business purposes control weather greens ,beef ,chicken or eggs your not going sell without them. They go in stores an use computers ( many years ago ) that calculates everyone's prices and delivers it back to their stores and lower there's until they run everyone out of business and then they raised their prices even higher pretty dirty.
But I'd like see percentage sold back to towns an goods kept there help sustained towns work labor fresh & local sufficient. Our towns have been took over by big business that not working in our interest they drain towns city's an world . We have lost the small town culture trust stability & efficiency. Like the electric bill now you're punished and pay more if you try and save or keep your bills your bill down you actually pay more an that's evil business. We all know the more self efficient we are and every way is better and more honest safer an makes more sense right . Now we need something protect the People A Sales & Trade Act Of The People that protects them there towns an there own business to from infringement & control of it all.
Anyway that's my take on it .
Well George Washington said no more trade as if wh... (show quote)

We have chain grocery stores that carry produce from around the area and even say whose farm it came from. When we lived on the ranch, we had some chickens, ducks and geese. We'd hatch some of the chicken and duck eggs and eat the rest. We also had a milk cow, a Jersey, and some dairy goats. We would milk them by hand, so we had a greater appreciation for the milk. I'd shoot a couple of deer in the fall for meat and knew someone who raised cattle and we would buy a side of beef from him. We also had a good sized garden and raised some veggies. Don't have that anymore. Due to my wife's health issues, we bought a house in a small town (under 900 people). The last two years have not been good for gardening, too wet last year and too hot and dry this year. It's just the two of us now so the grocery bill is not too much of a sticker shock.

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Aug 2, 2020 07:59:53   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Kickaha wrote:
We have chain grocery stores that carry produce from around the area and even say whose farm it came from. When we lived on the ranch, we had some chickens, ducks and geese. We'd hatch some of the chicken and duck eggs and eat the rest. We also had a milk cow, a Jersey, and some dairy goats. We would milk them by hand, so we had a greater appreciation for the milk. I'd shoot a couple of deer in the fall for meat and knew someone who raised cattle and we would buy a side of beef from him. We also had a good sized garden and raised some veggies. Don't have that anymore. Due to my wife's health issues, we bought a house in a small town (under 900 people). The last two years have not been good for gardening, too wet last year and too hot and dry this year. It's just the two of us now so the grocery bill is not too much of a sticker shock.
We have chain grocery stores that carry produce fr... (show quote)


Love going to a farm to pick fresh veggies and fruit, get fresh multiple colored eggs, etc..Also buy half a cow, meat like nothing you can buy in the grocery store!!!.. Farmers markets as well.. Usually because of the flowers and things made by the locals..Supporting our farmers is just a natural and quality far better...Grocery store for staple items and good to go...😊

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Aug 2, 2020 08:30:13   #
jSmitty45
 
maximus wrote:
You MUST be talking about the pork barrel money that even Pelosi' s husband got! Yep! Democrat millionaires
drawing relief money. That's OK though...isn't it?


👍👍👍

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Aug 2, 2020 09:48:29   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Trump administration strips pollution safeguards from drinking water sources
This article is more than 6 months old
Rollback of clean water protections for streams and wetlands
Obama-era rules have long been targeted by Trump
Oliver Milman in New York
@olliemilman
Thu 23 Jan 2020 12.35 EST Last modified on Thu 23 Jan 2020 13.01 EST

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An egret looks for food along Valhalla pond in Riverview, Florida. Trump has called clean water protections ‘very destructive’.

The Trump administration has completed its rollback of environmental protections for streams, wetland and other bodies of water, a process that has stripped pollution safeguards from drinking water sources used by around a third of all Americans.

Clean water protections strengthened under the Obama administration have long been targeted by Donald Trump, who has called it a “very destructive and horrible rule”.


Trump administration to strip pollution protections, harming vital wildlife
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Trump has been backed by ranchers, farming groups and golf course operators, who claim the so-called “Water of the United States” (Wotus) rule impinged upon landowners’ rights.

The Obama-era water rule was repealed last year and on Thursday the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) finalized a weakened replacement that removes millions of miles of streams and around half of America’s wetlands from federal oversight, potentially allowing pesticides and other pollutants to be dumped into them without penalty.

The move has dismayed former EPA staff who worked on the expansion of protections to ephemeral streams that supply drinking water to an estimated 117 million people in the US.

“The new rule is scientifically indefensible and socially unjust,” said Betsy Southerland, who was scientific director of the EPA’s office of water for three decades before departing in 2017.

“This EPA’s Wotus definition, which will limit federal water quality protections to a very small set of waters and wetlands, will result in the impairment of drinking water, fisheries and flood control for communities throughout the US.”


The latest major Trump resignations and firings
Read more
The Trump administration had promised the demise of the water rule to industry groups that lobbied against what they saw as costly federal overreach. “This new rule will provide much-needed clarity and regulatory certainty for companies that site and build infrastructure that delivers essential energy to America’s communities,” said Karen Harbert, chief executive of the American Gas Association.

But opponents of the repeal point out that the replacement regime not only scraps the Obama-era rule but also reverses protections reaching back to the 1972 Clean Water Act, such as requirements that landowners seek permits that the EPA considers on a case-by-case basis.

The new, far narrower, definition of water protections will maintain safeguards for major rivers such as the Mississippi River and the Colorado River but not short-lived streams that feed into them after it rains or snow melts. About 60% of streams in the US are dry for part of the year but then connect to large rivers following rainfall. Wetlands not situated next to large rivers will also be excluded from protections.

People living in the western US are set to be particularly affected by the new rule, with ephemeral streams making up around 89% of Nevada’s stream miles and 94% of Arizona’s, for example.

Environmental groups warn that as many as 75 endangered species dependent on temporary streams will be imperilled by the move, while any degradation of wetlands would also harm wildlife and worsen the climate crisis by lessening their ability to store carbon.

Trump told the World Economic Forum at Davos this week that the US has “among the cleanest air and drinking water on Earth”, despite widespread contamination with chemicals such as PFAS and neurotoxins such as lead in Americans’ water.

The Trump administration has dismantled about 100 environmental rules while in office, including the reversal of a ban on mining companies dumping their waste into rivers.

“The ‘dirty water rule’ will put clean drinking water for tens of millions of people at risk, especially the low-income communities and communities of colour already disproportionately impacted by polluted water,” said Madeleine Foote, deputy legislative director of the League of Conservation Voters.

“Clean, safe drinking water is a basic human right and we should be doing more to protect our water resources, not less,” she added.

Another expert warned of additional risks.

“The goal of the Trump administration rollback is to reduce the obligations of farmers, ranchers and other landowners in their requirements to protect water quality in the US,” said Catherine Kling, an environmental economist at Cornell University.

“This will lower regulatory costs to that group of Americans. But there are costs to the environment that will be borne by other Americans.”

These include, Kling said, the loss of healthy drinking water, algal blooms that sicken swimmers and pets and reduced value of properties near waterways.

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Aug 2, 2020 09:50:33   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
lindajoy wrote:
Up until Trump said~~~ yea right...

Heres some other proven facts other than just your self made opinion based on all your independent research”
In some areas you may swim but not all..
Kendall Lake and Indigo Lake, which are closed to swimming. However, swimming is not encouraged in rivers, streams, or ponds due to highly variable water quality. Specifically, the National Park Service discourages using the Cuyahoga River at this time...
Fishing you claim~~ Parts of the river still suffer from unhealthy amounts of sewage... Fish away and hope you don’t ingest any of that sewage....

fish populations needed for continued sport fishing. The park has over 65 species of fish that live in its waters.

Fishing in the Cuyahoga River
Steelhead trout and bullhead can be caught in the Cuyahoga River. The Ohio Department of health has issued an advisory that recommends limiting your consumption of sport fish due to the river's poor water quality. Please heed this advice and enjoy your catch safely. Catch and release is good...

BTW what was the ruling and outcome of “ The Lake Erie group” took charge and sued for the health of the River..??? Do you have your opinion of it too?? May we read it??

And when exactly did Trump clear the way for dumping into that river??

https://www.nps.gov/cuva/planyourvisit/fishing.htm
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Trump administration strips pollution safeguards from drinking water sources
This article is more than 6 months old
Rollback of clean water protections for streams and wetlands
Obama-era rules have long been targeted by Trump
Oliver Milman in New York
@olliemilman
Thu 23 Jan 2020 12.35 EST Last modified on Thu 23 Jan 2020 13.01 EST

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4,282
An egret looks for food along Valhalla pond in Riverview, Florida. Trump has called clean water protections ‘very destructive’.

The Trump administration has completed its rollback of environmental protections for streams, wetland and other bodies of water, a process that has stripped pollution safeguards from drinking water sources used by around a third of all Americans.

Clean water protections strengthened under the Obama administration have long been targeted by Donald Trump, who has called it a “very destructive and horrible rule”.


Trump administration to strip pollution protections, harming vital wildlife
Read more
Trump has been backed by ranchers, farming groups and golf course operators, who claim the so-called “Water of the United States” (Wotus) rule impinged upon landowners’ rights.

The Obama-era water rule was repealed last year and on Thursday the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) finalized a weakened replacement that removes millions of miles of streams and around half of America’s wetlands from federal oversight, potentially allowing pesticides and other pollutants to be dumped into them without penalty.

The move has dismayed former EPA staff who worked on the expansion of protections to ephemeral streams that supply drinking water to an estimated 117 million people in the US.

“The new rule is scientifically indefensible and socially unjust,” said Betsy Southerland, who was scientific director of the EPA’s office of water for three decades before departing in 2017.

“This EPA’s Wotus definition, which will limit federal water quality protections to a very small set of waters and wetlands, will result in the impairment of drinking water, fisheries and flood control for communities throughout the US.”


The latest major Trump resignations and firings
Read more
The Trump administration had promised the demise of the water rule to industry groups that lobbied against what they saw as costly federal overreach. “This new rule will provide much-needed clarity and regulatory certainty for companies that site and build infrastructure that delivers essential energy to America’s communities,” said Karen Harbert, chief executive of the American Gas Association.

But opponents of the repeal point out that the replacement regime not only scraps the Obama-era rule but also reverses protections reaching back to the 1972 Clean Water Act, such as requirements that landowners seek permits that the EPA considers on a case-by-case basis.

The new, far narrower, definition of water protections will maintain safeguards for major rivers such as the Mississippi River and the Colorado River but not short-lived streams that feed into them after it rains or snow melts. About 60% of streams in the US are dry for part of the year but then connect to large rivers following rainfall. Wetlands not situated next to large rivers will also be excluded from protections.

People living in the western US are set to be particularly affected by the new rule, with ephemeral streams making up around 89% of Nevada’s stream miles and 94% of Arizona’s, for example.

Environmental groups warn that as many as 75 endangered species dependent on temporary streams will be imperilled by the move, while any degradation of wetlands would also harm wildlife and worsen the climate crisis by lessening their ability to store carbon.

Trump told the World Economic Forum at Davos this week that the US has “among the cleanest air and drinking water on Earth”, despite widespread contamination with chemicals such as PFAS and neurotoxins such as lead in Americans’ water.

The Trump administration has dismantled about 100 environmental rules while in office, including the reversal of a ban on mining companies dumping their waste into rivers.

“The ‘dirty water rule’ will put clean drinking water for tens of millions of people at risk, especially the low-income communities and communities of colour already disproportionately impacted by polluted water,” said Madeleine Foote, deputy legislative director of the League of Conservation Voters.

“Clean, safe drinking water is a basic human right and we should be doing more to protect our water resources, not less,” she added.

Another expert warned of additional risks.

“The goal of the Trump administration rollback is to reduce the obligations of farmers, ranchers and other landowners in their requirements to protect water quality in the US,” said Catherine Kling, an environmental economist at Cornell University.

“This will lower regulatory costs to that group of Americans. But there are costs to the environment that will be borne by other Americans.”

These include, Kling said, the loss of healthy drinking water, algal blooms that sicken swimmers and pets and reduced value of properties near waterways.

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Aug 2, 2020 09:51:42   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Trump administration strips pollution safeguards from drinking water sources
This article is more than 6 months old
Rollback of clean water protections for streams and wetlands
Obama-era rules have long been targeted by Trump
Oliver Milman in New York
@olliemilman
Thu 23 Jan 2020 12.35 EST Last modified on Thu 23 Jan 2020 13.01 EST

Shares
4,282
An egret looks for food along Valhalla pond in Riverview, Florida. Trump has called clean water protections ‘very destructive’.

The Trump administration has completed its rollback of environmental protections for streams, wetland and other bodies of water, a process that has stripped pollution safeguards from drinking water sources used by around a third of all Americans.

Clean water protections strengthened under the Obama administration have long been targeted by Donald Trump, who has called it a “very destructive and horrible rule”.


Trump administration to strip pollution protections, harming vital wildlife
Read more
Trump has been backed by ranchers, farming groups and golf course operators, who claim the so-called “Water of the United States” (Wotus) rule impinged upon landowners’ rights.

The Obama-era water rule was repealed last year and on Thursday the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) finalized a weakened replacement that removes millions of miles of streams and around half of America’s wetlands from federal oversight, potentially allowing pesticides and other pollutants to be dumped into them without penalty.

The move has dismayed former EPA staff who worked on the expansion of protections to ephemeral streams that supply drinking water to an estimated 117 million people in the US.

“The new rule is scientifically indefensible and socially unjust,” said Betsy Southerland, who was scientific director of the EPA’s office of water for three decades before departing in 2017.

“This EPA’s Wotus definition, which will limit federal water quality protections to a very small set of waters and wetlands, will result in the impairment of drinking water, fisheries and flood control for communities throughout the US.”


The latest major Trump resignations and firings
Read more
The Trump administration had promised the demise of the water rule to industry groups that lobbied against what they saw as costly federal overreach. “This new rule will provide much-needed clarity and regulatory certainty for companies that site and build infrastructure that delivers essential energy to America’s communities,” said Karen Harbert, chief executive of the American Gas Association.

But opponents of the repeal point out that the replacement regime not only scraps the Obama-era rule but also reverses protections reaching back to the 1972 Clean Water Act, such as requirements that landowners seek permits that the EPA considers on a case-by-case basis.

The new, far narrower, definition of water protections will maintain safeguards for major rivers such as the Mississippi River and the Colorado River but not short-lived streams that feed into them after it rains or snow melts. About 60% of streams in the US are dry for part of the year but then connect to large rivers following rainfall. Wetlands not situated next to large rivers will also be excluded from protections.

People living in the western US are set to be particularly affected by the new rule, with ephemeral streams making up around 89% of Nevada’s stream miles and 94% of Arizona’s, for example.

Environmental groups warn that as many as 75 endangered species dependent on temporary streams will be imperilled by the move, while any degradation of wetlands would also harm wildlife and worsen the climate crisis by lessening their ability to store carbon.

Trump told the World Economic Forum at Davos this week that the US has “among the cleanest air and drinking water on Earth”, despite widespread contamination with chemicals such as PFAS and neurotoxins such as lead in Americans’ water.

The Trump administration has dismantled about 100 environmental rules while in office, including the reversal of a ban on mining companies dumping their waste into rivers.

“The ‘dirty water rule’ will put clean drinking water for tens of millions of people at risk, especially the low-income communities and communities of colour already disproportionately impacted by polluted water,” said Madeleine Foote, deputy legislative director of the League of Conservation Voters.

“Clean, safe drinking water is a basic human right and we should be doing more to protect our water resources, not less,” she added.

Another expert warned of additional risks.

“The goal of the Trump administration rollback is to reduce the obligations of farmers, ranchers and other landowners in their requirements to protect water quality in the US,” said Catherine Kling, an environmental economist at Cornell University.

“This will lower regulatory costs to that group of Americans. But there are costs to the environment that will be borne by other Americans.”

These include, Kling said, the loss of healthy drinking water, algal blooms that sicken swimmers and pets and reduced value of properties near waterways.
Trump administration strips pollution safeguards f... (show quote)


Why are you so ghastly uninformed???

***Trump told the World Economic Forum at Davos this week that the US has “among the cleanest air and drinking water on Earth”, despite widespread contamination with chemicals such as PFAS and neurotoxins such as lead in Americans’ water.**

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Aug 2, 2020 09:56:03   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
lindajoy wrote:
Love going to a farm to pick fresh veggies and fruit, get fresh multiple colored eggs, etc..Also buy half a cow, meat like nothing you can buy in the grocery store!!!.. Farmers markets as well.. Usually because of the flowers and things made by the locals..Supporting our farmers is just a natural and quality far better...Grocery store for staple items and good to go...😊


Why is it at the Farmers Markets the first thing out of your mouth is...
“Why is everything so expensive?”

Or has that cow been drinking in Donald’s streams?

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Aug 2, 2020 10:17:59   #
jim_shipley
 
Pelosi's husband also got a law passed by her to allow him to not have to pay minimum wage.

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Aug 2, 2020 10:18:23   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Their normal recess is the entire month. This time they are only taking a week. The House remains in session, not that they will get anything done.


I think they should consider taking off the rest of the year, considering how totally worthless they’ve become.

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Aug 2, 2020 10:19:50   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Why are you so ghastly uninformed???

***Trump told the World Economic Forum at Davos this week that the US has “among the cleanest air and drinking water on Earth”, despite widespread contamination with chemicals such as PFAS and neurotoxins such as lead in Americans’ water.**


Anybody???
Could we get a fact/ truth check on that one???

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Aug 2, 2020 10:27:23   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Here’s another thing, when they talk about farmers you immediately have an image of Mr Greenjeans and his pitchfork.
Truth is there are very few like him left.
Farms have been taken over by corporate conglomerates that are in it Only for the money.
So when you hear” Farm Bailout“ it refers to humongous checks written to Corporations.
Of course regular farms get checks but the larger the conglomerate the larger the check! (corporate Welfare Check)!!!!!
So the 12 Billion in tax dollars paid to “farmers “ actually went to corporate shareholders.
It did nothing for farming!!!!!!!

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Aug 2, 2020 10:28:25   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Hooray!!!!
Vote RepubliPIG!!!!!

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