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http://donboys.cstnews.com/violent-b*m-and-a****a-protesters-need-to-smell-a-whiff-of-grapeshot

Auntie Dee

Interesting article but I must point out one error: Bakersfield's mayor is a Republican, NOT a Democrat. A woman of Asian ancestry. There have been NO violent protests in Bakersfield, a few minor ones immediately after Floyd's death, which really were mostly peaceful! None have occurred recently at all! Bakersfield has a strong Republican population with lots of American f**gs flying everywhere, in front yards, in front of many many business and on lots of pick-up trucks!! There are a lot of Trump supporters here! I live in Bakersfield, so I do know of which I speak! Spent 17 years here in '80's till 1995. Came back a little over a year ago to be near family!

I have a Trump bumper sticker on my car, have never had even one bad comment on it! One day a guy came up to my car window in a grocery parking lot, at 1st, I was a bit reluctant to roll down the window to see what he was saying, but then when he pointed to his red Trump hat, I did roll down the window...he only wanted to tell me that he loved the bumper sticker!!

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

The federal storm troopers are just as much to blame. They arrested many peaceful protesters without identification, and without reading them their Miranda rights. They were released the next day with on charges being brought against them.
They are being brought to American cities without permission of local authorities, and with no training in crowd control or r**t control.
Both the cities and the peaceful protesters need protection from those seeking destruction and l**ting. This is not happening.

Smedley_buzkill

Now that's odd; when Oregon took the Feds to court they were only able to prove two cases of mistaken identity, both of which were sorted out in a couple of hours. The State of Oregon's case was thrown out as without merit. They made the same claims as you; but unfortunately for the State of Oregon, in court it requires more than repeating lies and propaganda.

ImLogicallyRight

You do know there are no Federal Storm Troopers. Right? Please tell me you aren't that brainwashed.

bikerjack60

Apparently he is.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

You sure cite a lot of misinformation here salt.. What, do you think none of us witness Seattle, Oregon, NY, Cali “ peaceful protests going on? Just as a few examples?? Do you really support the burning down of cities, federal and state buildings???

Do you know about or understand that the Constitution permits Congress to authorize the use of the m*****a “to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress I**********ns and repel Invasions.” And it guarantees the states protection against invasion or usurpation of their “republican form of government,” and, upon the request of the state legislature, against “domestic violence.” These constitutional provisions are reflected in the I**********n Acts, which have been invoked numerous times both before and after passage of the Posse Comitatus Act, 18 U.S.C. Section 1385, in 1878. Congress has also enacted a number of statutes that authorize the use of land and naval forces to execute their objective in recent years and wants to do more which if not careful will completely abridge what our constitution days Now to broader control they want striking down our protections as citizens! Think long and hard you speak with such lack of knowledge in what you are saying..

The Posse Comitatus Act outlaws the willful use of any part of the Army or Air Force to execute the law unless expressly authorized by the Constitution or an act of Congress. History supplies the grist for an argument that the Constitution prohibits military involvement in civilian affairs subject to only limited alterations by Congress or the President, but the courts do not appear to have ever accepted the argument unless violation of more explicit constitutional command could also be shown. The express statutory exceptions include the legislation that allows the President to use military force to suppress i**********n or to enforce federal authority, 10 U.S.C. Sections 251-255, and laws that permit the Department of Defense to provide federal, state and local police with information, equipment, and personnel, 10 U.S.C. §§ 271-284.

Let us not forget The USA PATRIOT Act broadened the permissible circumstances for the use of the military to assist law enforcement agencies in countering r*******n, terrorism etc..
Congress also reaffirmed its determination to maintain the principle of the posse
terrorism, laws..
evoked more calls to reevaluate the military’s role in responding to disasters.
using military surveillance equipment and resources, including unmanned aerial vehicles (drones), to assist civilian law enforcement has raised some objections based on the military role. Along with an historical analysis of the use of the Armed Forces to execute domestic law and of the Posse Comitatus Act, including their apparent theoretical and constitutional underpinnings. The report then outlines the current application of the Posse Comitatus Act as well as its statutory exceptions, and reviews the consequences of its violation.
Snd Congress wants to modify it to coincide with the above as well.. So be very careful...

Want more information??

See Nathan Canestaro, Homeland Defense: Another Nail in the Coffin for Posse Comitatus, 12 WASH. U. J.L. & POL’Y 99, 100 (2003) (“Some politicians and media sources now suggest that Congress amend or even repeal the PCA to allow a degree of domestic military involvement that would have been unthinkable five years ago.”). For a review of the changed role of the military, see William C. Banks, The Normalization of Homeland Security after September 11: The Role of the Military in Counterterrorism Preparedness and Response, 64 LA. L. REV. 745 (2004).
2 Pub. L. No. 107-56, 115 Stat. 272 (2001). 3 Id. § 104 (amending 18 U.S.C. § 2332e).
4 Homeland Security Act of 2002, Pub. L. No. 107-296, § 886, 116 Stat. 2248 (2002), codified at 6 U.S.C. § 466 (2018).
5 See Lisa Grow Sun, Disaster Mythology and the Law, 96 CORNELL L. REV. 1131 (2011); Jerald A. Sharum, The Politics of Fear and Outsourcing Emergency Powers: The Death and Rebirth of the Posse Comitatus Act, 37 LINCOLN L. REV. 111 (2009-2010);, William C. Banks, Providing “Supplemental Security”—The I**********n Act and the Military Role in Responding to Domestic Crises, 3 J. NAT'L SECURITY L. & POL'Y 39 (2009) (all three articles recounting history behind the short-lived amendment to the I**********n Act enacted in response to Hurricane Katrina).
6 Canestaro, supra, note 1, at 100 (arguing that numerous exceptions for military support of civil authorities “have taken their toll on the [Posse Comitatus Act’s] strength”).
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The perceived breakdown in civil law and order in Hurricane Katrinis~~

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generous exceptions to the rule. The USA PATRIOT Act broadened the permissible
circumstances for the use of the military to assist law enforcement agencies in countering
3
but Congress also reaffirmed its determination to maintain the principle of the posse
terrorism,
comitatus law.
evoked more calls to reevaluate the military’s role in responding to disasters.
using military surveillance equipment and resources, including unmanned aerial vehicles (drones), to assist civilian law enforcement has raised some objections based on the military role. This report provides an historical analysis of the use of the Armed Forces to execute domestic law and of the Posse Comitatus Act, including their apparent theoretical and constitutional underpinnings. The report then outlines the current application of the Posse Comitatus Act as well as its statutory exceptions, and reviews the consequences of its violation.
1 See Nathan Canestaro, Homeland Defense: Another Nail in the Coffin for Posse Comitatus, 12 WASH. U. J.L. & POL’Y 99, 100 (2003) (“Some politicians and media sources now suggest that Congress amend or even repeal the PCA to allow a degree of domestic military involvement that would have been unthinkable five years ago.”). For a review of the changed role of the military, see William C. Banks, The Normalization of Homeland Security after September 11: The Role of the Military in Counterterrorism Preparedness and Response, 64 LA. L. REV. 745 (2004).
2 Pub. L. No. 107-56, 115 Stat. 272 (2001). 3 Id. § 104 (amending 18 U.S.C. § 2332e).
4 Homeland Security Act of 2002, Pub. L. No. 107-296, § 886, 116 Stat. 2248 (2002), codified at 6 U.S.C. § 466 (2018).
5 See Lisa Grow Sun, Disaster Mythology and the Law, 96 CORNELL L. REV. 1131 (2011); Jerald A. Sharum, The Politics of Fear and Outsourcing Emergency Powers: The Death and Rebirth of the Posse Comitatus Act, 37 LINCOLN L. REV. 111 (2009-2010);, William C. Banks, Providing “Supplemental Security”—The I**********n Act and the Military Role in Responding to Domestic Crises, 3 J. NAT'L SECURITY L. & POL'Y 39 (2009) (all three articles recounting history behind the short-lived amendment to the I**********n Act enacted in response to Hurricane Katrina).
6 Canestaro, supra, note 1, at 100 (arguing that numerous exceptions for military support of civil authorities “have taken their toll on the [Posse Comitatus Act’s] strength”).
4
The perceived breakdown in civil law and order in Hurricane Kateinis~~

12
generous exceptions to the rule. The USA PATRIOT Act broadened the permissible
circumstances for the use of the military to assist law enforcement agencies in countering
3
but Congress also reaffirmed its determination to maintain the principle of the posse
terrorism,
comitatus law.
evoked more calls to reevaluate the military’s role in responding to disasters.
using military surveillance equipment and resources, including unmanned aerial vehicles (drones), to assist civilian law enforcement has raised some objections based on the military role. This report provides an historical analysis of the use of the Armed Forces to execute domestic law and of the Posse Comitatus Act, including their apparent theoretical and constitutional underpinnings. The report then outlines the current application of the Posse Comitatus Act as well as its statutory exceptions, and reviews the consequences of its violation.
1 See Nathan Canestaro, Homeland Defense: Another Nail in the Coffin for Posse Comitatus, 12 WASH. U. J.L. & POL’Y 99, 100 (2003) (“Some politicians and media sources now suggest that Congress amend or even repeal the PCA to allow a degree of domestic military involvement that would have been unthinkable five years ago.”). For a review of the changed role of the military, see William C. Banks, The Normalization of Homeland Security after September 11: The Role of the Military in Counterterrorism Preparedness and Response, 64 LA. L. REV. 745 (2004).
2 Pub. L. No. 107-56, 115 Stat. 272 (2001). 3 Id. § 104 (amending 18 U.S.C. § 2332e).
4 Homeland Security Act of 2002, Pub. L. No. 107-296, § 886, 116 Stat. 2248 (2002), codified at 6 U.S.C. § 466 (2018).
5 See Lisa Grow Sun, Disaster Mythology and the Law, 96 CORNELL L. REV. 1131 (2011); Jerald A. Sharum, The Politics of Fear and Outsourcing Emergency Powers: The Death and Rebirth of the Posse Comitatus Act, 37 LINCOLN L. REV. 111 (2009-2010);, William C. Banks, Providing “Supplemental Security”—The I**********n Act and the Military Role in Responding to Domestic Crises, 3 J. NAT'L SECURITY L. & POL'Y 39 (2009) (all three articles recounting history behind the short-lived amendment to the I**********n Act enacted in response to Hurricane Katrina).
6 Canestaro, supra, note 1, at 100 (arguing that numerous exceptions for military support of civil authorities “have taken their toll on the [Posse Comitatus Act’s] strength”).
4
The perceived breakdown in civil law and order in Hurricane Katrina.

All good reading and may enlighten you to the full authority of our State and Federal overlap~~powers and abiding consequences..And believe me when I say this is only a sample of where and What Congress and the President can use..

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2020/07/24/judge-denies-oregon-bid-to-stop-fed-arrests-in-portland/amp/

Ahhh Smedley, leave it to you to point out the obvious..

And this as well~~ PORTLAND, Ore. — A U.S. judge Friday denied an order sought by Oregon’s top law enforcement officer to stop federal agents from arresting people during nightly protests in Portland that have roiled the progressive city and pitted local officials against the Trump administration.

U.S. District Court Judge Michael Mosman said the state lacked standing to sue on behalf of protesters.

Demonstrators have taken to the streets to oppose racial injustice since G****e F***d’s death by Minneapolis police two months ago, and many have spiraled into violence. President Donald Trump decried the disorder and sent in federal agents early this month to quell the unrest despite outcry from Democratic leaders in Oregon.

The clash has further inflamed the nation’s political tensions and triggered a crisis over the limits of federal power in states as Trump moves to send U.S. officers to other Democratic-led cities to combat crime. It’s playing out as Trump pushes a new “law and order” ree******n strategy after the c****av***s crashed the economy.

Protesters in Portland have been targeting the federal courthouse, setting fires outside and vandalizing the building that U.S. authorities say they have a duty to protect. Federal agents have used tear gas, less-lethal ammunition that left one person critically injured and other force to scatter protesters, and they have made arrests.