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Another one bites the dust. "Turkey Proposes Switching to National Currencies Payments"
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Jul 21, 2014 06:58:31   #
Senecharnix Loc: northeastern Louisiana
 
Patty wrote:
Washington is no longer part of America. Seems many here just don't get that.


Washington may no longer be part of America. The problem is that its pomposity, asininity, and foolishness are still going to cost all of us very dearly in the not-so-distant future. Leave aside divine retribution and America will still end up being confronted by a world teeming with resentment and indignation. Never mind that multitudes of folks throughout world would love to exact some vengeance against her. The peoples of our world will not allow themselves to continue suffering the toxic fumes of America's arrogance and bullying forever. One way that they will slap her off her high horse is by ending the dollar's reign as our world's reserve currency. But the paybacks will not stop there. Once she starts to fall, many of her rivals and foes will work together to make sure she continues sliding to an ever-more humble position. Being stubborn, stupid, and p***eful, she will endeavor to resurrect her glory. Her belligerence will then lead to her stumbling into the abyss of her fate....

I wish I could sing a song with a happy ending. But the type of jerks that rule in Washington DC and New York will never stop being a bunch of sociopathic megalomaniacs until circumstances trashes their power and removes them. Since the good peoples of America refuse to do so, the tides of fate and destiny will put an end to the insanity that her leaders continue brewing in honor of their exceptional-nation delusions. Like the tragic heroes of a Greek play, their hubris knows no bounds. Alas, they will take most of the remainder of us down with them....

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Jul 21, 2014 07:57:40   #
Patty
 
That will depend on whether it is done through the IMF/World Bank or the BRICS World bank that opened last Tues.
If it is on a basket of IMF currencies it will be done based on SDR Units (special drawing rights) and will be another fiat.
I believe but have read no proof that the basket of currencies now under going currency swaps for international trade outside the USD will be pegged to a non floating gold standard.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-15/brics-announce-100-billion-reserve-bypass-fed-developed-world-central-banks
Senecharnix wrote:
Some experts in such matters suggest that the world will switch to a so-called basket of currencies backed up by gold and an assortment of other metals precious and otherwise...The time is coming for fiat currencies to become extinct--none too soon....

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Jul 22, 2014 09:57:00   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Senecharnix wrote:
Washington may no longer be part of America. The problem is that its pomposity, asininity, and foolishness are still going to cost all of us very dearly in the not-so-distant future. Leave aside divine retribution and America will still end up being confronted by a world teeming with resentment and indignation. Never mind that multitudes of folks throughout world would love to exact some vengeance against her. The peoples of our world will not allow themselves to continue suffering the toxic fumes of America's arrogance and bullying forever. One way that they will slap her off her high horse is by ending the dollar's reign as our world's reserve currency. But the paybacks will not stop there. Once she starts to fall, many of her rivals and foes will work together to make sure she continues sliding to an ever-more humble position. Being stubborn, stupid, and p***eful, she will endeavor to resurrect her glory. Her belligerence will then lead to her stumbling into the abyss of her fate....

I wish I could sing a song with a happy ending. But the type of jerks that rule in Washington DC and New York will never stop being a bunch of sociopathic megalomaniacs until circumstances trashes their power and removes them. Since the good peoples of America refuse to do so, the tides of fate and destiny will put an end to the insanity that her leaders continue brewing in honor of their exceptional-nation delusions. Like the tragic heroes of a Greek play, their hubris knows no bounds. Alas, they will take most of the remainder of us down with them....
Washington may no longer be part of America. The p... (show quote)


Excellent. That's it in a nutshell.

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Jul 22, 2014 10:06:23   #
Patty
 
Senecharnix wrote:
Washington may no longer be part of America. The problem is that its pomposity, asininity, and foolishness are still going to cost all of us very dearly in the not-so-distant future. Leave aside divine retribution and America will still end up being confronted by a world teeming with resentment and indignation. Never mind that multitudes of folks throughout world would love to exact some vengeance against her. The peoples of our world will not allow themselves to continue suffering the toxic fumes of America's arrogance and bullying forever. One way that they will slap her off her high horse is by ending the dollar's reign as our world's reserve currency. But the paybacks will not stop there. Once she starts to fall, many of her rivals and foes will work together to make sure she continues sliding to an ever-more humble position. Being stubborn, stupid, and p***eful, she will endeavor to resurrect her glory. Her belligerence will then lead to her stumbling into the abyss of her fate....

I wish I could sing a song with a happy ending. But the type of jerks that rule in Washington DC and New York will never stop being a bunch of sociopathic megalomaniacs until circumstances trashes their power and removes them. Since the good peoples of America refuse to do so, the tides of fate and destiny will put an end to the insanity that her leaders continue brewing in honor of their exceptional-nation delusions. Like the tragic heroes of a Greek play, their hubris knows no bounds. Alas, they will take most of the remainder of us down with them....
Washington may no longer be part of America. The p... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jul 22, 2014 13:55:15   #
Senecharnix Loc: northeastern Louisiana
 
cant beleve wrote:
Excellent. That's it in a nutshell.


I do not like all this apocalyptic-messenger stuff. It would be wonderful if I could wake up in a godly nation on a world of sane folks--like those that I write about in my verifiction stories. But, alas, we need to deal with reality the way it is...I cannot say how long we have before the excrement hits the rotary oscillator. If you believe in such things as prophetic visions and dreams, though, then you might find profit in what I believe the Son (Yeshua, or if you prefer, Jesus) revealed to me in a dream last year. He told me some mystical info that leads me to believe America's financial/economic bandwagon will probably tumble over the cliff of just rewards between the last few months of 2019 and the end of 2020...I suffer the funny feeling that the coming winter will prove exceedingly unkind to America's p***e and bank accounts. [In late December through January, there are supposed to be a string of meetings between various nations, concerning various financial and economic issues, including monetary policies. Who can guess what those will cultivate...Do you know anything about what I am referring to, Patty?]

In a more mundane stream of thought, America bullying Russia (for no reason other than to act like global jerk because it is in America's nature to be stupid and belligerent) is inspiring nations all over our world to start thinking seriously about how they can extract themselves from their s***ery to America. Of course, they will never admit it. But even some European nations are starting to think they need to do something big to insulate themselves from America's geopolitical and economic tyranny. Meanwhile, they will play along with her dictates as little as they can get away with....

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Jul 22, 2014 14:22:37   #
Patty
 
This should be interesting.
http://www.g20.org/

Senecharnix wrote:
I do not like all this apocalyptic-messenger stuff. It would be wonderful if I could wake up in a godly nation on a world of sane folks--like those that I write about in my verifiction stories. But, alas, we need to deal with reality the way it is...I cannot say how long we have before the excrement hits the rotary oscillator. If you believe in such things as prophetic visions and dreams, though, then you might find profit in what I believe the Son (Yeshua, or if you prefer, Jesus) revealed to me in a dream last year. He told me some mystical info that leads me to believe America's financial/economic bandwagon will probably tumble over the cliff of just rewards between the last few months of 2019 and the end of 2020...I suffer the funny feeling that the coming winter will prove exceedingly unkind to America's p***e and bank accounts. [In late December through January, there are supposed to be a string of meetings between various nations, concerning various financial and economic issues, including monetary policies. Who can guess what those will cultivate...Do you know anything about what I am referring to, Patty?]

In a more mundane stream of thought, America bullying Russia (for no reason other than to act like global jerk because it is in America's nature to be stupid and belligerent) is inspiring nations all over our world to start thinking seriously about how they can extract themselves from their s***ery to America. Of course, they will never admit it. But even some European nations are starting to think they need to do something big to insulate themselves from America's geopolitical and economic tyranny. Meanwhile, they will play along with her dictates as little as they can get away with....
I do not like all this apocalyptic-messenger stuff... (show quote)

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Jul 23, 2014 07:10:15   #
Senecharnix Loc: northeastern Louisiana
 
Patty wrote:
This should be interesting.
http://www.g20.org/


I believe I heard that several other big meetings about finaces and economics are supposed to take place during the period in question....

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Jul 23, 2014 08:04:44   #
Senecharnix Loc: northeastern Louisiana
 
You might find this interesting, Patty: http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/07/16/508731brics-against-washington-consensus/

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Jul 23, 2014 08:38:18   #
Patty
 
Thanks yes They didn't think they would be rolling out this bank for several years but with Washingtons increased aggression rolled out this World Bank agreement last Tues.
There are many dumping the USD in the last week and I continue to try to warn people that Washington is hell bent on the destruction of the dollar. Every day we see another one dumping the IMF system and going with BRICS. Yesterday it was Turkey today its Switzerland.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/21/us-china-switzerland-currency-idUSKBN0FQ0H520140721
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Jul 23, 2014 08:42:33   #
Patty
 
They have stepped up meetings with other leaders and seem to be represented daily by another host. Yesterday it was a couple days ago it was Venezuala and then moved on to Cuba.
http://thebricspost.com/china-venezuela-ink-38-agreements-including-oil-deal/#.U8-tPzbD_IU
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/21/cuba-china-idUSL2N0PW0MB20140721
Senecharnix wrote:
I believe I heard that several other big meetings about finaces and economics are supposed to take place during the period in question....

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Jul 23, 2014 13:36:14   #
Senecharnix Loc: northeastern Louisiana
 
Patty, I just read a couple of very interesting articles. They covered various issues that I heard about however long ago. One of them concerns Germany working behind the scenes to align herself with the BRICS to form a Eurasian axis with Russia, China, and India. One of the objectives of such a move is to insulate Germany from the dollar and America's sanction madness....

One of the articles mentioned that, from the middle of February to the middle of March, various nations dumped at least a hundred billion dollars worth of Treasury bonds. I believe the article implies that the scattering away from the Treasury continues. The article went on to imply that the vast majority of nations in Asia have suddenly begun thinking they no longer like the dollar or the way America conducts herself. Of course, they have also been quietly acquiring as much gold and silver as they can grab....

Lastly, one of the articles mentioned how Russia has been working quietly but feverishly to construct deals with various other nations to begin conducting trade around the dollar. It implied that the other nations in question are very interested exploring Russia's propositions. It then went on to mention that Russia's deal with Iran to trade Iranian oil for Russian goods has become a model for other nations to copy. Then there are the deals that Iran worked out with Turkey and India to conduct trade via gold--another new model of trade for other nations to copy. One of those nations is Saudi Arabia. Intriguingly, it dangled the notion that Saudi Arabia and Iran might end up burying their differences and working together to help German, Russia, China, and India accomplish their purposes....

I suppose it is worth noting that the nations of Asia, and most notably Japan, have refused to jump on America's bandwagon of hostility toward Russia. Ironically enough, the sanctions by America and the EU against Russia have inspired them to start thinking they should begin the process of squeezing the dollar and America's power over them out of their grand schemes of things....

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Jul 23, 2014 14:43:39   #
Patty
 
Yes that is what is going on. It is not so much they are doing this quietly as the US MSM doesn't report it here in the states. Washington knows what everyone is doing . The Germany deal is called The Silk Road Route.
http://thebricspost.com/china-to-host-international-silk-road-belt-conference/#.U9AB8DbD_IU
This is a good site for what business deals are going on within the BRICS countries.
Senecharnix wrote:
Patty, I just read a couple of very interesting articles. They covered various issues that I heard about however long ago. One of them concerns Germany working behind the scenes to align herself with the BRICS to form a Eurasian axis with Russia, China, and India. One of the objectives of such a move is to insulate Germany from the dollar and America's sanction madness....

One of the articles mentioned that, from the middle of February to the middle of March, various nations dumped at least a hundred billion dollars worth of Treasury bonds. I believe the article implies that the scattering away from the Treasury continues. The article went on to imply that the vast majority of nations in Asia have suddenly begun thinking they no longer like the dollar or the way America conducts herself. Of course, they have also been quietly acquiring as much gold and silver as they can grab....

Lastly, one of the articles mentioned how Russia has been working quietly but feverishly to construct deals with various other nations to begin conducting trade around the dollar. It implied that the other nations in question are very interested exploring Russia's propositions. It then went on to mention that Russia's deal with Iran to trade Iranian oil for Russian goods has become a model for other nations to copy. Then there are the deals that Iran worked out with Turkey and India to conduct trade via gold--another new model of trade for other nations to copy. One of those nations is Saudi Arabia. Intriguingly, it dangled the notion that Saudi Arabia and Iran might end up burying their differences and working together to help German, Russia, China, and India accomplish their purposes....

I suppose it is worth noting that the nations of Asia, and most notably Japan, have refused to jump on America's bandwagon of hostility toward Russia. Ironically enough, the sanctions by America and the EU against Russia have inspired them to start thinking they should begin the process of squeezing the dollar and America's power over them out of their grand schemes of things....
Patty, I just read a couple of very interesting ar... (show quote)

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Jul 23, 2014 16:52:52   #
Senecharnix Loc: northeastern Louisiana
 
Patty wrote:
Yes that is what is going on. It is not so much they are doing this quietly as the US MSM doesn't report it here in the states. Washington knows what everyone is doing . The Germany deal is called The Silk Road Route.
http://thebricspost.com/china-to-host-international-silk-road-belt-conference/#.U9AB8DbD_IU
This is a good site for what business deals are going on within the BRICS countries.



I have known about the new Silk Road for quite a while. That matter is only a small part of what is going on behind closed doors with Germany, Russia, China, and India. The Eurasian axis would be a trade association as well as a geopolitical coalition--one designed to counter America's bully act....

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Jul 24, 2014 05:46:20   #
Patty
 
Interesting enough yesterday India decided not to sign the WTO agreement that is administered through the USD. It states cheap food issues as the reason but I bet behind the curtain there is another agreement being drawn up out side the dollar.
http://thebricspost.com/india-decides-not-to-sign-bali-trade-deal/#.U9DUcTbD_IU
Senecharnix wrote:
I have known about the new Silk Road for quite a while. That matter is only a small part of what is going on behind closed doors with Germany, Russia, China, and India. The Eurasian axis would be a trade association as well as a geopolitical coalition--one designed to counter America's bully act....

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Jul 24, 2014 22:04:46   #
Senecharnix Loc: northeastern Louisiana
 
Big news--maybe...http://www.examiner.com/article/jim-willie-source-confirms-that-germany-is-ready-to-leave-eu-euro-and-nato

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