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May 3, 2013 11:23:42   #
Yankee Clipper
 
This will kind of remind one of the KGBP or the Gestapo I think.

Palm Beach Sheriff: We want people to call us if the guy down the street says he h**es the government
by NTEB News Desk
Florida House and Senate budget leaders have awarded Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw $1 million for a new violence prevention unit aimed at preventing tragedies like those in Newtown, Conn., and Aurora, Colo., from occurring on his turf.
Bradshaw plans to use the extra $1 million to launch “prevention intervention” units featuring specially trained deputies, mental health professionals and caseworkers. The teams will respond to citizen phone calls to a 24-hour hotline with a knock on the door and a referral to services, if needed.
The goal will be avoiding crime — and making sure law enforcement knows about potential powder kegs before tragedies occur, Bradshaw said. But the earmark, which is a one-time-only funding provision, provoked a debate Monday among mental health advocates and providers about the balance between civil liberties, privacy and protecting the public.
Bradshaw said his proposal is a first-of-its-kind in the nation, and he hopes it will become a model for the rest of the state like his gang prevention and pill-mill units.
“Every single incident, whether it’s Newtown, that movie theater, or the guy who spouts off at work and then goes home and k**ls his wife and two kids — in every single case, there were people who said they knew ahead of time that there was a problem,” Bradshaw said. “If the neighbor of the mom in Newtown had called somebody, this might have saved 25 kids’ lives.”
Bradshaw is readying a hotline and is planning public service announcements to encourage local citizens to report their neighbors, friends or family members if they fear they could harm themselves or others.
The goal won’t be to arrest troubled people but to get them help before there’s violence, Bradshaw said. As a side benefit, law enforcement will have needed information to keep a close eye on things.
“We want people to call us if the guy down the street says he h**es the government, h**es the mayor and he’s gonna shoot him,” Bradshaw said. “What does it hurt to have somebody knock on a door and ask, ‘Hey, is everything OK?’ ”
That’s enough for Senate budget chief Joe Negron, R-Stuart, who helped push through the funding last weekend.
He said he met with Bradshaw about the program and “got assurances from the sheriff that this is going to be done in a way that respects people’s autonomy and privacy, and that he makes sure to protect against people making false claims.”
Mental health advocates, however, worry about a potential new source of stigma, and the potential for erosion of the civil rights of people with mental illnesses.
“How are they possibly going to watch everybody who makes a comment like that? It’s subjective,” said Liz Downey, executive director of the Palm Beach County branch of the National Alliance on Mental Illness. “We don’t want to take away people’s civil liberties just because people aren’t behaving the way we think they should be.”
Bradshaw acknowledged the risk that anyone in a messy divorce or in a dispute with a neighbor could abuse the hotline. But, he said, he’s confident that his trained professionals will know how to sort out fact from fiction.
“We know how to sift through frivolous complaints,” he said.
The proposal still needs the blessing of Gov. Rick Scott, who has line-item veto authority.
But if it goes forward, Palm Beach County’s already stretched mental health and substance abuse providers could find themselves even busier. There is no ready source of funds once the $1 million runs its course, as there hasn’t been an increase to community mental health funding in many years.
“Our community agencies throughout the state don’t have the funds to meet the needs they have currently,” said Bob Sharpe, CEO of the Florida Council for Community Mental Health. “It sounds like it could work, but with no new funding we’d have to find it within existing resources.”
If Bradshaw’s teams can keep people out of crisis units and promote early intervention, that has the potential to save money, said Ann Berner, CEO of the Southeast Florida Behavioral Health Network, which manages mental health care payments for the state.
To be successful, however, there will have to be close coordination with the mental health providers, she said. For example, the county already pays for mobile crisis response teams at two nonprofit mental health providers, a service that includes a 24-hour crisis call center. They, too, are trained to de-escalate conflicts and refer troubled people to care. Which ones will respond when there’s a call from a school or a home? That will have to be clarified.
Also, after troubled people are identified by Bradshaw’s teams, then what? Who will pay for their care? The state? Medicaid? The county? The Palm Beach County Public Defender has a good program to ensure qualified people apply for the Social Security and Medicaid benefits they may need, she said. Some high-level conversations have started, but more are needed, Berner added.
“I think that would be an area we really need to collaborate on, and soon,” she said.
The $1 million Bradshaw won represents a third of what he had sought from the Legislature, but it’s a 10-fold bump from what was originally earmarked before House and Senate budget leaders finalized the state’s $74 billion budget over the weekend.source - Palm Beach Post

Reposted from mypalmbeachpost
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(snip...)Bradshaw plans to use the extra $1 million to launch “prevention intervention” units featuring specially trained deputies, mental health professionals and caseworkers. The teams will respond to citizen phone calls to a 24-hour hotline with a knock on the door and a referral to services, if needed.
The goal will be avoiding crime — and making sure law enforcement knows about potential powder kegs before tragedies occur, Bradshaw said. But the earmark, which is a one-time-only funding provision, provoked a debate Monday among mental health advocates and providers about the balance between civil liberties, privacy and protecting the public.
Bradshaw said his proposal is a first-of-its-kind in the nation, and he hopes it will become a model for the rest of the state like his gang prevention and pill-mill units.


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May 3, 2013 14:05:01   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Yankee Clipper wrote:
This will kind of remind one of the KGBP or the Gestapo I think.

Palm Beach Sheriff: We want people to call us if the guy down the street says he h**es the government
by NTEB News Desk
Florida House and Senate budget leaders have awarded Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw $1 million for a new violence prevention unit aimed at preventing tragedies like those in Newtown, Conn., and Aurora, Colo., from occurring on his turf.
Bradshaw plans to use the extra $1 million to launch “prevention intervention” units featuring specially trained deputies, mental health professionals and caseworkers. The teams will respond to citizen phone calls to a 24-hour hotline with a knock on the door and a referral to services, if needed.
The goal will be avoiding crime — and making sure law enforcement knows about potential powder kegs before tragedies occur, Bradshaw said. But the earmark, which is a one-time-only funding provision, provoked a debate Monday among mental health advocates and providers about the balance between civil liberties, privacy and protecting the public.
Bradshaw said his proposal is a first-of-its-kind in the nation, and he hopes it will become a model for the rest of the state like his gang prevention and pill-mill units.
“Every single incident, whether it’s Newtown, that movie theater, or the guy who spouts off at work and then goes home and k**ls his wife and two kids — in every single case, there were people who said they knew ahead of time that there was a problem,” Bradshaw said. “If the neighbor of the mom in Newtown had called somebody, this might have saved 25 kids’ lives.”
Bradshaw is readying a hotline and is planning public service announcements to encourage local citizens to report their neighbors, friends or family members if they fear they could harm themselves or others.
The goal won’t be to arrest troubled people but to get them help before there’s violence, Bradshaw said. As a side benefit, law enforcement will have needed information to keep a close eye on things.
“We want people to call us if the guy down the street says he h**es the government, h**es the mayor and he’s gonna shoot him,” Bradshaw said. “What does it hurt to have somebody knock on a door and ask, ‘Hey, is everything OK?’ ”
That’s enough for Senate budget chief Joe Negron, R-Stuart, who helped push through the funding last weekend.
He said he met with Bradshaw about the program and “got assurances from the sheriff that this is going to be done in a way that respects people’s autonomy and privacy, and that he makes sure to protect against people making false claims.”
Mental health advocates, however, worry about a potential new source of stigma, and the potential for erosion of the civil rights of people with mental illnesses.
“How are they possibly going to watch everybody who makes a comment like that? It’s subjective,” said Liz Downey, executive director of the Palm Beach County branch of the National Alliance on Mental Illness. “We don’t want to take away people’s civil liberties just because people aren’t behaving the way we think they should be.”
Bradshaw acknowledged the risk that anyone in a messy divorce or in a dispute with a neighbor could abuse the hotline. But, he said, he’s confident that his trained professionals will know how to sort out fact from fiction.
“We know how to sift through frivolous complaints,” he said.
The proposal still needs the blessing of Gov. Rick Scott, who has line-item veto authority.
But if it goes forward, Palm Beach County’s already stretched mental health and substance abuse providers could find themselves even busier. There is no ready source of funds once the $1 million runs its course, as there hasn’t been an increase to community mental health funding in many years.
“Our community agencies throughout the state don’t have the funds to meet the needs they have currently,” said Bob Sharpe, CEO of the Florida Council for Community Mental Health. “It sounds like it could work, but with no new funding we’d have to find it within existing resources.”
If Bradshaw’s teams can keep people out of crisis units and promote early intervention, that has the potential to save money, said Ann Berner, CEO of the Southeast Florida Behavioral Health Network, which manages mental health care payments for the state.
To be successful, however, there will have to be close coordination with the mental health providers, she said. For example, the county already pays for mobile crisis response teams at two nonprofit mental health providers, a service that includes a 24-hour crisis call center. They, too, are trained to de-escalate conflicts and refer troubled people to care. Which ones will respond when there’s a call from a school or a home? That will have to be clarified.
Also, after troubled people are identified by Bradshaw’s teams, then what? Who will pay for their care? The state? Medicaid? The county? The Palm Beach County Public Defender has a good program to ensure qualified people apply for the Social Security and Medicaid benefits they may need, she said. Some high-level conversations have started, but more are needed, Berner added.
“I think that would be an area we really need to collaborate on, and soon,” she said.
The $1 million Bradshaw won represents a third of what he had sought from the Legislature, but it’s a 10-fold bump from what was originally earmarked before House and Senate budget leaders finalized the state’s $74 billion budget over the weekend.source - Palm Beach Post

Reposted from mypalmbeachpost
Posted by ilona trommler

(snip...)Bradshaw plans to use the extra $1 million to launch “prevention intervention” units featuring specially trained deputies, mental health professionals and caseworkers. The teams will respond to citizen phone calls to a 24-hour hotline with a knock on the door and a referral to services, if needed.
The goal will be avoiding crime — and making sure law enforcement knows about potential powder kegs before tragedies occur, Bradshaw said. But the earmark, which is a one-time-only funding provision, provoked a debate Monday among mental health advocates and providers about the balance between civil liberties, privacy and protecting the public.
Bradshaw said his proposal is a first-of-its-kind in the nation, and he hopes it will become a model for the rest of the state like his gang prevention and pill-mill units.


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It darned sure sounds like what we have been moving toward for sometime now and surely will take away the rights of first one group, and then another, and so on. It would be ok with me if they check up on those reported by just anybody, but door knocking on the word of Joe Blow just doesn't sound good to me.

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May 3, 2013 22:52:04   #
The Dutchman
 
oldroy wrote:
It darned sure sounds like what we have been moving toward for sometime now and surely will take away the rights of first one group, and then another, and so on. It would be ok with me if they check up on those reported by just anybody, but door knocking on the word of Joe Blow just doesn't sound good to me.


This is exactly the way hitler started with his brown shirts....

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May 3, 2013 23:28:49   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
The Dutchman wrote:
This is exactly the way hitler started with his brown shirts....


Well Oldroy, I can clearly state for all to read. For me to tell on somebody who is giving their opinion - It has two chances of happening - Slim and None. Rather I agree with it or not, they still have that right.

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May 4, 2013 11:50:40   #
MannyB
 
He was probably trained in Cuba or North Korea.

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May 4, 2013 13:39:02   #
Navysnipe Loc: Old West
 
Chardo will tell on ya!

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May 4, 2013 14:30:05   #
The Dutchman
 
Navysnipe wrote:
Chardo will tell on ya!


Seems as though the jersey d**g q***n is laying low? It's the best thing that can happen in this forum. To bad the little insignificant small one doesn't do the same thing........

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May 4, 2013 14:52:45   #
Yankee Clipper
 
The Dutchman wrote:
Seems as though the jersey d**g q***n is laying low? It's the best thing that can happen in this forum. To bad the little insignificant small one doesn't do the same thing........


Aw, come on now, old Che is fun to agitate. T***h is he likes to agitate us too. I don't mind a little back in forth. I don't like it when we all agree on everything, that's why we need him.

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May 4, 2013 14:55:09   #
MannyB
 
I understand your point, but please make it with intelligent people not with Pavlov's indoctrinated i***ts/parrots.

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May 4, 2013 16:22:15   #
Yankee Clipper
 
MannyB wrote:
I understand your point, but please make it with intelligent people not with Pavlov's indoctrinated i***ts/parrots.


I don't know who you are referring to but I'll throw this in for a little fun. You take what you can get sometimes, if it's the best the useful i***ts got, then that's what you got to work with. I consider it cheap entertainment with a glimpse of what a sick system the Marxist bastards are trying to impose on us. We should (all of us) remember that not all that glitters is gold. It's the sizzle of the steak like the glitter of the gold the masses are buying to their own peril. It's right there were everyone can imagine it, almost smell it, almost feel it, but it's not quite attainable and never will be. Most of the ones promoting Marxism do not understand the sizzle and glitter is not attainable to them either. What am I talking about, it's the Marxist utopia they have been promising. That's why it's fun to have these i***ts lecturing us about how great their system is if we could only see their good intentions. But none of it is real or will ever be real, it's just a figment in their imagination.

So I say we need these useful i***ts to keep us focused though many times confused and to entertain us too. How's that for a bunch of BS?

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May 4, 2013 16:33:10   #
MannyB
 
Yankee Clipper wrote:
I don't know who you are referring to but I'll throw this in for a little fun. You take what you can get sometimes, if it's the best the useful i***ts got, then that's what you got to work with. I consider it cheap entertainment with a glimpse of what a sick system the Marxist bastards are trying to impose on us. We should (all of us) remember that not all that glitters is gold. It's the sizzle of the steak like the glitter of the gold the masses are buying to their own peril. It's right there were everyone can imagine it, almost smell it, almost feel it, but it's not quite attainable and never will be. Most of the ones promoting Marxism do not understand the sizzle and glitter is not attainable to them either. What am I talking about, it's the Marxist utopia they have been promising. That's why it's fun to have these i***ts lecturing us about how great their system is if we could only see their good intentions. But none of it is real or will ever be real, it's just a figment in their imagination.

So I say we need these useful i***ts to keep us focused though many times confused and to entertain us too. How's that for a bunch of BS?
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I was referring to Chardo

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May 4, 2013 17:12:43   #
Yankee Clipper
 
MannyB wrote:
I was referring to Chardo


Well, I was trying to match Che, The Dutchman calls him the Jersey D**g Q***n, sometimes I combine the two. I rarely call him Chardo. Have you seen his republication on another topic (American Right wingers...) that is about a mile long. I think I have responded to it some time ago, so I might look up my response and refresh his memory.

I don't know what made me write that last response, I just couldn't help myself.

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May 4, 2013 17:18:22   #
willy7
 
As I said, we have to stay together! How long do you think you/I would remain 'detained' if taken under such circumstances? That's right; forever. The spies and toadies will be busy.

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May 6, 2013 14:44:16   #
Rona
 
willy7 wrote:
As I said, we have to stay together! How long do you think you/I would remain 'detained' if taken under such circumstances? That's right; forever. The spies and toadies will be busy.


I don't live in Florida, but our government is starting to stink like last week's dead fish. 8-)

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May 7, 2013 05:40:21   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
oldroy wrote:
It darned sure sounds like what we have been moving toward for sometime now and surely will take away the rights of first one group, and then another, and so on. It would be ok with me if they check up on those reported by just anybody, but door knocking on the word of Joe Blow just doesn't sound good to me.


He apparently forgot that pesky little 1st Amendment right to free speech.

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