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Jul 19, 2014 09:27:41   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Glaucon wrote:
Wanker,
You don’t know any people in Philly or anywhere else who have gotten what you described. You are making that up. It didn’t happen. I told you how you could find out the facts if for any reason you wanted to know the facts but you would rather try to pass off your bull s**t than deal with reality. That is dishonest and makes things even harder for those who need help and makes you look like a foolish right wing nut case.


I worked in south philly Chester for 5yrs and yes i talked to people and they're police force about a great many things. I saw the abuse first hand w/ theyre "independence cards" The amount of abuse was astonishing, and the stories told first hand by police would blow your simple little mind. Tell me what l*****t "the world is the best its ever been" (Obama last week) website do you get your info from.

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Jul 19, 2014 12:22:40   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Glaucon wrote:
What jumped out for me from what you said is the naïve thought that some of us do not lie. Is lying bad? If you your wife asks you if she is getting fat or if your son asks you if you like the his French horn playing in the living room. To say that there is someone out there it the real world that doesn't lie is terribly naïve. For starters, we want people to lie to us and we certainly must be aware that it would be virtually impossible for someone to get elected to major offices without telling us mostly what we want to hear, regardless what is true.

We were quick to absolve Bush of responsibility for lying about the weapons of mass destruction and Lyndon Johnson for lying about the Bay of Tonkin.

How do you define a lie? For me, it is saying something that we know at the time we say it is not true and it is said to manipulate us and it is significant.

I think that if a politician you support tells you something that is not true or turns out not to be true, you probably wouldn't think it was a lie. If a politician you didn't support said exactly the same thing, you would more than likely think it was an impeachable offense.

Let's be real: all humans lie and we often want them to. The important issue is, how important is the lie, For what purpose is the lie, and is the liar a Republican or Democrat?

A note: When I was in kindergarten, just before Christmas, my father sat me on his knee and told me there is no Santa Clause and I couldn't tell anyone else because they had been told something that wasn't true. I felt on top of the world because I knew the t***h and my other kindergarteners were being lied to and didn't know it.
What jumped out for me from what you said is the n... (show quote)


What proof did the little boy, you, have that his father told him the t***h and others were being lied to? Oh yeah, you found out later that he told you the t***h but did he tell you that because he couldn't afford to buy you presents and wouldn't steal to get them?

The fact that Democat politicians continually lie about so many things must hurt you a lot. When I get those e-mails from them, daily, filled with the same lies, day after day, I have to wonder just how stupid they think their sheeple are.

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Jul 19, 2014 12:29:25   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Alicia wrote:
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Sorry to disappoint you but I don't save every article I read. I do believe it was last year when that ad was exposed. The woman in it was hired. After doing the math, journalists discovered that she was paying no more than her previous insurance premiums.

Can you really believe a person stupid enough to have created her fantasy. Did she really think he was creating a utopia? A child wouldn't fall for that. I maintain she was also paid and the TPers truly need some new propagandists. Their present ones seem to be unable to come up with anything new. :lol: :lol: :lol:
*************** br Sorry to disappoint you but I d... (show quote)


You should deny being one of the daily recipients of those e-mails they keep sending me if you don't get them. You do talk like you may be one of the recipients so either deny it or just prove that they don't send those things around.

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Jul 19, 2014 12:41:44   #
Sicilianthing
 
Glaucon wrote:
You have a real rabid, mindless, h**eful rage on against someone or some thing for some reason. WTF are you talking about?


Wake up !
Im reading everything you guys post here mostly.....
My reply refers to the usual dialogue you guys ramble about... like the woman in this topic and car and mortgage...

6 years later and the misery continues...
Who's side are you on anyway ?

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Jul 19, 2014 12:47:04   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Alicia wrote:
***************
Sorry to disappoint you but I don't save every article I read. I do believe it was last year when that ad was exposed. The woman in it was hired. After doing the math, journalists discovered that she was paying no more than her previous insurance premiums.

Can you really believe a person stupid enough to have created her fantasy. Did she really think he was creating a utopia? A child wouldn't fall for that. I maintain she was also paid and the TPers truly need some new propagandists. Their present ones seem to be unable to come up with anything new. :lol: :lol: :lol:
*************** br Sorry to disappoint you but I d... (show quote)



Yeah TPers don't get to use tax dollars to push they re propaganda

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Jul 19, 2014 12:58:17   #
Glaucon
 
oldroy wrote:
What proof did the little boy, you, have that his father told him the t***h and others were being lied to? Oh yeah, you found out later that he told you the t***h but did he tell you that because he couldn't afford to buy you presents and wouldn't steal to get them?

The fact that Democat politicians continually lie about so many things must hurt you a lot. When I get those e-mails from them, daily, filled with the same lies, day after day, I have to wonder just how stupid they think their sheeple are.
What proof did the little boy, you, have that his ... (show quote)


You say that, “The fact that Democrat politicians continually lie about so many things must hurt you a lot.” Is just not the way it works. I am equally as troubled by the lies Democrats tell their sheeple as I am about the lies the Republicans tell their sheeple. It seem you are not aware of or concerned about Republicans lies.
Everyone lies.
We want to be lied to and we demand it from our politicians.
No president has ever been elected without lying to us. We demand that they lie to us.
Both Democrats and Republicans lie to us and there is no evidence one of them does it more or any less than the other.
We are aware of lies people with whom we disagree tell, but ignore the lies people who agree with us tell. It sounds like you are like that.
I was going to respond to your Santa Clause comments, but I can’t figure our what you are trying to say.

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Jul 19, 2014 13:03:50   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Glaucon wrote:
You say that, “The fact that Democrat politicians continually lie about so many things must hurt you a lot.” Is just not the way it works. I am equally as troubled by the lies Democrats tell their sheeple as I am about the lies the Republicans tell their sheeple. It seem you are not aware of or concerned about Republicans lies.
Everyone lies.
We want to be lied to and we demand it from our politicians.
No president has ever been elected without lying to us. We demand that they lie to us.
Both Democrats and Republicans lie to us and there is no evidence one of them does it more or any less than the other.
We are aware of lies people with whom we disagree tell, but ignore the lies people who agree with us tell. It sounds like you are like that.
I was going to respond to your Santa Clause comments, but I can’t figure our what you are trying to say.
You say that, “The fact that Democrat politicians... (show quote)


You know the first paragraph is probably the smartest thing I've ever heard you say, they are all liers that push they're agendas on us.doesn't even matter what side your on, you will feel they're BS some way some how its just a matter of when

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Jul 19, 2014 13:19:56   #
Glaucon
 
the waker wrote:
I try not to get engaged in blasfimus comments but I would say he wouldn't charge a $ 5000 deductable to heal the sick, I do find it funny how you libs like to poke fun at Christianity but will support Islam. Last I checked the Christians weren't cutting peoples heads off and suppressing woman's rights. Just another contradiction from the left I guess. Don't worry its not the first.


You say you find it funny how "you libs" like to poke fun at Christianity but support Islam.

You have made some serious errors, I am not a lib, I do not make fun of anyone's religion, I do not belong to any organized religion. I do not support Islam and I don't know anyone personally who does. I guess I am saying that all of the assumptions you make in your comment are wrong.
Both Christians and Muslims are guilty of terrible cruelty and have demonstrated incredible kindness. I want the incredible kindness without the terrible cruelty.

You talk about women's rights? Have you considered women's treatment in the Koran and the Bible?

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Jul 19, 2014 13:22:44   #
Glaucon
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
Wake up !
Im reading everything you guys post here mostly.....
My reply refers to the usual dialogue you guys ramble about... like the woman in this topic and car and mortgage...

6 years later and the misery continues...
Who's side are you on anyway ?


I am on the side of t***h, justice and reality, but I try to understand your side, also.

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Jul 19, 2014 13:28:34   #
Glaucon
 
the waker wrote:
I worked in south philly Chester for 5yrs and yes i talked to people and they're police force about a great many things. I saw the abuse first hand w/ theyre "independence cards" The amount of abuse was astonishing, and the stories told first hand by police would blow your simple little mind. Tell me what l*****t "the world is the best its ever been" (Obama last week) website do you get your info from.


You make stuff up and everyone knows it. You obviously hear what you want to hear and ignore the rest. Pry your mind open and pay attention. But most import.ant, quit making stuff up

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Jul 19, 2014 13:51:32   #
Sicilianthing
 
Glaucon wrote:
I am on the side of t***h, justice and reality, but I try to understand your side, also.


If you guys want t***h?
I can point you where to dig for the t***h !!!

I'll give you guys an example... in real time as of yesterday !!!
Let's see just who is paying attention of the 7,000 + members here...

IRS Commissioner answers to someone other than Obama...

Who is on the other end of those phone conversations ?
This secret person is dictating answers to the commissioner !!!

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Jul 19, 2014 14:19:55   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Glaucon wrote:
You make stuff up and everyone knows it. You obviously hear what you want to hear and ignore the rest. Pry your mind open and pay attention. But most import.ant, quit making stuff up


I make stuff up, that's the pot calling the kettle black, I just don't buy into your tax payer propaganda, pick up a book and read it. Owning one doesn't coint ,you have to open it first

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Jul 19, 2014 14:24:46   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Glaucon wrote:
I am on the side of t***h, justice and reality, but I try to understand your side, also.


Yeah I've seen your t***h, papa propaganda has you all screwed up,nobody ever did answer why this administration got rid of the smith Mundt act of 43. Take your time read up, you all find some t***h there!

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Jul 19, 2014 14:43:32   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Glaucon wrote:
You say that, “The fact that Democrat politicians continually lie about so many things must hurt you a lot.” Is just not the way it works. I am equally as troubled by the lies Democrats tell their sheeple as I am about the lies the Republicans tell their sheeple. It seem you are not aware of or concerned about Republicans lies.
Everyone lies.
We want to be lied to and we demand it from our politicians.
No president has ever been elected without lying to us. We demand that they lie to us.
Both Democrats and Republicans lie to us and there is no evidence one of them does it more or any less than the other.
We are aware of lies people with whom we disagree tell, but ignore the lies people who agree with us tell. It sounds like you are like that.
I was going to respond to your Santa Clause comments, but I can’t figure our what you are trying to say.
You say that, “The fact that Democrat politicians... (show quote)


I was asking if you were really sure that your dad was telling the t***h back then and the others were all lying. You must have been one smart kindergartner if you knew he had t***hed you and the others were all lying.

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Jul 19, 2014 14:43:41   #
Nickolai
 
JetJock wrote:
Ah there it is, the infamous RACE CARD. When you cannot defend the actions play it quick and play it often. There are many great people who are black and need no race card, they just do what is right.

Ben Carson is my choice for the next president, not because he is black but because he has all the right stuff, not like the imposter in the WH now.


Ben Carson adds nothing new to the conservation just regurgitation of the same old right wing rhetoric that I've heard for 55 years. Conservatives add nothing because that thinking is anti progress. always has been and always will be, Conservatives depend on every one forgetting their past failed positions such as trickle down economics which looks worse as time goes on. A new consensus eventually forms around some view that conservatives once opposed and the old conservative ideas are so discredited that even conservatives no longer try to defend them

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