Patty

The US MSM is reporting this was shoot down over Donetsk in Eastern Ukraine. Do not be fooled by this false f**g attack this plane was shoot at in western Ukraine.


"Here Is The Real-Time Flight Path Of The Shot Down Malaysian Airlines Flight MH 17
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Update: reportedly Malaysia Airlines has confirmed that plane "Kuala Lumpur -Amsterdam" went off the radar in Donetsk oblast, possibly shot down"

First it was MH-370. Now, it appears tragedy has struck again, this time on Malaysian Airlines flight MH-17, on route from Amsteram to Kuala Lumpur, which disappeared from radar moments ago and was reportedly shot down over Ukraine. While there is nothing yet officially confirmed by the carrier, the radar tracked path of the airplane is shown below.

the waker Loc: 11th freest nation

The central banks are really pushing hard for a war somewhere aren't they? Good thing the world is a safer place now, no better time to live.;)

Patty

This plane went off the radar in western Ukraine before it got to Donetsk. It might have went down in eastern Ukraine but the rebels don't have the capability to shoot down a plane at 30,000' or Kiev would be smoldering right now.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Patty, the first two planes shot down this week got little notice. One cargo plane and the other an Ukrainian military plane.

With about 300 people on this commercial flight, one must wonder why Malaysian airlines would fly over that territory.

I see no escalation of the conflict which would develop from this incident. But such a coincidence with Malaysian airlines, puzzles me a lot.. flight 370 and now this flight 17.

The pro Russian forces do have some batteries which could accomplish this. But I can not see a motive. All sides have declared they had no connection to this event.

Patty

RT for what it is worth was interviewing people in western Uke and they said the missile came from the Ukrainian Military Base.
I will go see if Saker has anyone on the ground there and let you guys know what his people are saying there.

Patty

MrEd Loc: Georgia

Finding the black box will not prove who shot it down, only that it was shot down.


"Here are the other notable updates in the past hour from Bloomberg:


Putin’s plane may have been target of Ukrainian rocket: Interfax

Russian President Vladimir Putin’s plane crossed route of crashed Malaysian plane near Warsaw, Interfax reports, citing unidentified person in Russian aviation service.

Possible that Ukrainian rocket was fired from land or from military plane: Interfax cites source

Plane that crashed was similar in size, color: Interfax
Obama Says U.S. Trying to Determine if U.S. Citizens on Plane"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-rebels-find-black-box-full-mh-17-update


If this is the case, someone is really in trouble. Blaming Russia for this is just a way of taking pressure off the others. Obama for sure will blame Russia, since he seems to want to start a war with Russia. If he wants a war that bad, then he and his buddies that want this war can go fight it.

Patty

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