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Jul 7, 2020 10:21:46   #
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. Loc: Pa
 
July 6th - Trump tweeted "The Mortality Rate for the China V***s in the U.S. is just about the LOWEST IN THE WORLD," doubling down on this stance with a subsequent tweet definitively declaring that "we now have the lowest Fatality (Mortality) Rate in the World."

FACTS: Johns Hopkins reports the following:
Out of the at least 2.8 million cases of c****av***s in the US, as of Monday morning, the estimated a fatality rate is 4.5%, the sixth highest worldwide.
The US death toll from c****av***s is more than twice as high as that of the country with the second-highest death toll, Brazil, based on data from Johns Hopkins. Out of the 20 most affected countries, the US also has the second highest number of c****av***s deaths per 100,000 people, behind the United Kingdom.

Question – why does Trump continue to foolishly put out misinformation that is so easily exposed?

The majority of Americans have caught on as reflected by Trump’s slumping poll numbers and abandonment by many traditional republicans.

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Jul 7, 2020 10:25:52   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
July 6th - Trump tweeted "The Mortality Rate for the China V***s in the U.S. is just about the LOWEST IN THE WORLD," doubling down on this stance with a subsequent tweet definitively declaring that "we now have the lowest Fatality (Mortality) Rate in the World."

FACTS: Johns Hopkins reports the following:
Out of the at least 2.8 million cases of c****av***s in the US, as of Monday morning, the estimated a fatality rate is 4.5%, the sixth highest worldwide.
The US death toll from c****av***s is more than twice as high as that of the country with the second-highest death toll, Brazil, based on data from Johns Hopkins. Out of the 20 most affected countries, the US also has the second highest number of c****av***s deaths per 100,000 people, behind the United Kingdom.

Question – why does Trump continue to foolishly put out misinformation that is so easily exposed?

The majority of Americans have caught on as reflected by Trump’s slumping poll numbers and abandonment by many traditional republicans.
July 6th - Trump tweeted "The Mortality Rate ... (show quote)


We were all confused by that statement...

But there are lots of members here who believe that the mortality is below 0.1% of the infected...

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Jul 7, 2020 10:34:17   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
July 6th - Trump tweeted "The Mortality Rate for the China V***s in the U.S. is just about the LOWEST IN THE WORLD," doubling down on this stance with a subsequent tweet definitively declaring that "we now have the lowest Fatality (Mortality) Rate in the World."

FACTS: Johns Hopkins reports the following:
Out of the at least 2.8 million cases of c****av***s in the US, as of Monday morning, the estimated a fatality rate is 4.5%, the sixth highest worldwide.
The US death toll from c****av***s is more than twice as high as that of the country with the second-highest death toll, Brazil, based on data from Johns Hopkins. Out of the 20 most affected countries, the US also has the second highest number of c****av***s deaths per 100,000 people, behind the United Kingdom.

Question – why does Trump continue to foolishly put out misinformation that is so easily exposed?

The majority of Americans have caught on as reflected by Trump’s slumping poll numbers and abandonment by many traditional republicans.
July 6th - Trump tweeted "The Mortality Rate ... (show quote)


He's trying to hang on to his dwindling base.

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Jul 7, 2020 10:50:14   #
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. Loc: Pa
 
Both parties have their committed base. It's the swing v**ers who will determine the e******n outcome, and they are being alienated by Trump's lack of credibility.

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Jul 7, 2020 10:58:44   #
Lonewolf
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
Both parties have their committed base. It's the swing v**ers who will determine the e******n outcome, and they are being alienated by Trump's lack of credibility.



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Jul 7, 2020 11:11:12   #
Seth
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
Both parties have their committed base. It's the swing v**ers who will determine the e******n outcome, and they are being alienated by Trump's lack of credibility.


Hold that thought... Let's hear it again when the polls close on 3 November.

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Jul 7, 2020 11:44:55   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
July 6th - Trump tweeted "The Mortality Rate for the China V***s in the U.S. is just about the LOWEST IN THE WORLD," doubling down on this stance with a subsequent tweet definitively declaring that "we now have the lowest Fatality (Mortality) Rate in the World."

FACTS: Johns Hopkins reports the following:
Out of the at least 2.8 million cases of c****av***s in the US, as of Monday morning, the estimated a fatality rate is 4.5%, the sixth highest worldwide.
The US death toll from c****av***s is more than twice as high as that of the country with the second-highest death toll, Brazil, based on data from Johns Hopkins. Out of the 20 most affected countries, the US also has the second highest number of c****av***s deaths per 100,000 people, behind the United Kingdom.

Question – why does Trump continue to foolishly put out misinformation that is so easily exposed?

The majority of Americans have caught on as reflected by Trump’s slumping poll numbers and abandonment by many traditional republicans.
July 6th - Trump tweeted "The Mortality Rate ... (show quote)


I often wonder how many of these numbers are taken from other malaises, doubled, and manipulated? I smell stinky politics!

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Jul 7, 2020 11:52:14   #
EmilyD
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
July 6th - Trump tweeted "The Mortality Rate for the China V***s in the U.S. is just about the LOWEST IN THE WORLD," doubling down on this stance with a subsequent tweet definitively declaring that "we now have the lowest Fatality (Mortality) Rate in the World."

FACTS: Johns Hopkins reports the following:
Out of the at least 2.8 million cases of c****av***s in the US, as of Monday morning, the estimated a fatality rate is 4.5%, the sixth highest worldwide.
The US death toll from c****av***s is more than twice as high as that of the country with the second-highest death toll, Brazil, based on data from Johns Hopkins. Out of the 20 most affected countries, the US also has the second highest number of c****av***s deaths per 100,000 people, behind the United Kingdom.

Question – why does Trump continue to foolishly put out misinformation that is so easily exposed?

The majority of Americans have caught on as reflected by Trump’s slumping poll numbers and abandonment by many traditional republicans.
July 6th - Trump tweeted "The Mortality Rate ... (show quote)


You say the number of C-19 deaths in the US is twice as high as Brazil....so let me ask you this: Is the population of the United States twice as high as Brazil? It's not, and therefore your math is wrong. The only way to match deaths vs. population is to use the per capita formula - the average per person per population...not how many deaths per 100,000. Per capita formulas are not being used place of per person in statistical observances in this instance, and is not used when the MSM report the death numbers. In other words, they are lying when they don't use the per capita numbers....but that's not a surprise.

US population: 328,200,000
Brazil population: 210,000,00

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Jul 7, 2020 14:47:43   #
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. Loc: Pa
 
Statistics are what they are – and you can find flaws with just about any v***s measurement out there. But collectively, the stats tell us we are no where near, as Trump says “lowest fatality rate in the world”. Whether you are a believer in “f**e news” on the left or “blind loyalty” on the right, trump’s body of work from the beginning of the p******c has been to deny or diminish it’s severity. Look at some of his absurd comments:

“We have it totally under control. ... It’s going to be just fine.”
“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

The administration is teeming with health experts and stocked with data. But Trump has chosen to drown them out with his own wishful proclamations. The v***s is raging in Texas, Florida and Arizona – states that v**ed for him in 2016 – yet he does not express empathy towards them. As American deaths topped 130,000 he is even trying to eliminate Obamacare from the very people who really need it about now.

The FACT is – this is failed leadership.

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Jul 7, 2020 17:34:18   #
EmilyD
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
Statistics are what they are – and you can find flaws with just about any v***s measurement out there. But collectively, the stats tell us we are no where near, as Trump says “lowest fatality rate in the world”. Whether you are a believer in “f**e news” on the left or “blind loyalty” on the right, trump’s body of work from the beginning of the p******c has been to deny or diminish it’s severity. Look at some of his absurd comments:

“We have it totally under control. ... It’s going to be just fine.”
“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

The administration is teeming with health experts and stocked with data. But Trump has chosen to drown them out with his own wishful proclamations. The v***s is raging in Texas, Florida and Arizona – states that v**ed for him in 2016 – yet he does not express empathy towards them. As American deaths topped 130,000 he is even trying to eliminate Obamacare from the very people who really need it about now.

The FACT is – this is failed leadership.
Statistics are what they are – and you can find fl... (show quote)

Trump is not drowning anything out with wishful proclamations. How could what he wishes drown anything out? What a ridiculous thing to say! The number of daily deaths are currently at an all time low right now. Between yesterday and today, there were 409 deaths reported in the WHOLE country! The total number of C-19 deaths reported to date is one hundred and thirty-three thousand....out of three hundred and twenty-eight million people!!

This v***s is NOT the Bubonic Plague. It is NOT a death knell. 98% of the people who contract it recover. As of today, 1,325,516 people have recovered from this illness!

Americans are sick and tired of the f**e panic that the Dems and their puppets, the MSM, are trying to foist on the public. Fewer and fewer people are buying their kool-aid. Today I went to two stores and there were no signs on either door that said masks were necessary...one sign said to wash your hands and keep distance if someone seems to be ill. Nothing new about that...I've always avoided people who are sneezing and coughing when I go out..not just in the past few months. I counted about six people total in both stores who had masks on. Most restaurants who had take-out and outside seating only are now accepting inside patrons. They're putting tables further apart from each other and wiping them down a lot, but it's now possible to go out to dinner in a nice restaurant again, and enjoy a night out. Also, most of the doctors, dentists, podiatrists, etc. are now open with spaced appointments. I see people on the beaches of the lakes I live near having picnics and playing together in the water. Almost no one is wearing a mask. It goes on and on...

Go ahead and try to spread the f**e panic around...maybe you'll find a few gullible people...or maybe you and your handful of masked friends can march around and ruin property and f**gs, but the majority of Americans are going about their business as usual, and their lives are, for the most part, back to normal. Oh, and by the way, just about every other business in the city I live in has a "now hiring" sign in front of it....

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Jul 7, 2020 17:37:08   #
Seth
 
EmilyD wrote:
Trump is not drowning anything out with wishful proclamations. How could what he wishes drown anything out? What a ridiculous thing to say! The number of daily deaths are currently at an all time low right now. Between yesterday and today, there were 409 deaths reported in the WHOLE country! The total number of C-19 deaths reported to date is one hundred and thirty-three thousand....out of three hundred and twenty-eight million people!!

This v***s is NOT the Bubonic Plague. It is NOT a death knell. 98% of the people who contract it recover. As of today, 1,325,516 people have recovered from this illness!

Americans are sick and tired of the f**e panic that the Dems and their puppets, the MSM, are trying to foist on the public. Fewer and fewer people are buying their kool-aid. Today I went to two stores and there were no signs on either door that said masks were necessary...one sign said to wash your hands and keep distance if someone seems to be ill. Nothing new about that...I've always avoided people who are sneezing and coughing when I go out..not just in the past few months. I counted about six people total in both stores who had masks on. Most restaurants who had take-out and outside seating only are now accepting inside patrons. They're putting tables further apart from each other and wiping them down a lot, but it's now possible to go out to dinner in a nice restaurant again, and enjoy a night out. Also, most of the doctors, dentists, podiatrists, etc. are now open with spaced appointments. I see people on the beaches of the lakes I live near having picnics and playing together in the water. Almost no one is wearing a mask. It goes on and on...

Go ahead and try to spread the f**e panic around...maybe you'll find a few gullible people...or maybe you and your handful of masked friends can march around and ruin property and f**gs, but the majority of Americans are going about their business as usual, and their lives are, for the most part, back to normal. Oh, and by the way, just about every other business in the city I live in has a "now hiring" sign in front of it....
Trump is not drowning anything out with wishful pr... (show quote)



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Jul 7, 2020 17:51:32   #
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. Loc: Pa
 
As reported by Time:

Hospitalizations across Florida have been ticking upward, with nearly 1,700 patients admitted in the past seven days compared with 1,200 the previous week. Five hospitals in the St. Petersburg area were out of intensive care unit beds, officials said. Miami’s Baptist Hospital had only four of its 88 ICU beds available.

“If we continue to increase at the pace we have been, we won’t have enough ventilators, enough rooms,” said Dr. David De La Zerda, ICU medical director and pulmonologist at Miami’s Jackson Memorial Hospital.

Officials in Texas also reported hospitals are in danger of being overwhelmed. Hospitalizations statewide surged past 8,000 for the first time over the weekend, a more than fourfold increase in the past month. Houston officials said intensive care units there have exceeded capacity.

Along the border with Mexico, two severely ill patients were flown hundreds of miles north to Dallas and San Antonio because hospitals in the Rio Grande Valley were full.

In Arizona, the number of people hospitalized with C****-** topped 3,200, a new high, and hospitals statewide were at 89% capacity. Confirmed cases surpassed 100,000, and more than half of those infected, or over 62,000, are under 44 years old, state health officials said.

Stay tuned for the death rates to follow over the next few weeks. You don't see a problem here?

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Jul 7, 2020 18:09:29   #
EmilyD
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
As reported by Time:

Hospitalizations across Florida have been ticking upward, with nearly 1,700 patients admitted in the past seven days compared with 1,200 the previous week. Five hospitals in the St. Petersburg area were out of intensive care unit beds, officials said. Miami’s Baptist Hospital had only four of its 88 ICU beds available.

“If we continue to increase at the pace we have been, we won’t have enough ventilators, enough rooms,” said Dr. David De La Zerda, ICU medical director and pulmonologist at Miami’s Jackson Memorial Hospital.

Officials in Texas also reported hospitals are in danger of being overwhelmed. Hospitalizations statewide surged past 8,000 for the first time over the weekend, a more than fourfold increase in the past month. Houston officials said intensive care units there have exceeded capacity.

Along the border with Mexico, two severely ill patients were flown hundreds of miles north to Dallas and San Antonio because hospitals in the Rio Grande Valley were full.

In Arizona, the number of people hospitalized with C****-** topped 3,200, a new high, and hospitals statewide were at 89% capacity. Confirmed cases surpassed 100,000, and more than half of those infected, or over 62,000, are under 44 years old, state health officials said.

Stay tuned for the death rates to follow over the next few weeks. You don't see a problem here?
As reported by Time: br br Hospitalizations acros... (show quote)


Hospitals and their CEO's are part of the farce. Sure they fill beds with what they are calling C-19 cases, the more beds and cases they report, the more government funding they get. Testing is also a joke. "New"
cases are reported for every test that is administered...even if a person has already been tested before. So if some paranoid guy goes in and has a test every day of the week, then 7 "new" cases are reported. People who are in "high risk" positions, such as doctors, nurses, any hospital worker for that matter, etc., have multiple tests regularly, and each of those tests are reported as a "new" case. Also, anyone who has c****a antibodies is counted as a new case. A c****a antibody does NOT mean it is from the C-19 v***s....it can be from any c****a v***s, including several influenza strains and the common cold strains. The guidelines for testing are extremely vague, and open for interpretation by anyone...no one is monitoring testing on a nation-wide basis...the CDC is just collecting data from anyone and anywhere.

Dems have tried and tried to discredit Trump, from Russian collusion h**x, to impeachment and now using this v***s to make it look like he's responsible. FOR A V***S!!! No one believes that he is the cause of the v***s, or the number of deaths from it. And the media is NOT reporting the number of recoveries (as of today, 1,325,516). Why is that, do you think? Because they don't want the t***h to be known? Americans are not stupid. They can see what's going on...this h**x isn't fooling anyone.

Here is a report on daily deaths from Worldometer...



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Jul 7, 2020 19:48:40   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
EmilyD wrote:
You say the number of C-19 deaths in the US is twice as high as Brazil....so let me ask you this: Is the population of the United States twice as high as Brazil? It's not, and therefore your math is wrong. The only way to match deaths vs. population is to use the per capita formula - the average per person per population...not how many deaths per 100,000. Per capita formulas are not being used place of per person in statistical observances in this instance, and is not used when the MSM report the death numbers. In other words, they are lying when they don't use the per capita numbers....but that's not a surprise.

US population: 328,200,000
Brazil population: 210,000,00
You say the number of C-19 deaths in the US is twi... (show quote)


ok....

China population: 1,500,000,000... Deaths 4634.. Per capita 3/million...
America population: 328,200,000... Deaths 133,292.. Per capita 405/million


America's per capita deaths are in the top ten worldwide as well....

And is higher than Brazil's... Brazilian deaths per capita 315/million

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Jul 7, 2020 22:32:10   #
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. Loc: Pa
 
That’s garbage

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