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Jul 4, 2020 10:20:20   #
solarkin
 
There are many comments. and taglines printed, spoken and shared on media platforms that are just false and misleading .There seems to be no integrity ,or honesty left in reporting news. Anyone ,and everyone is taking a personal point of view ,and professing it as fact. Maybe if we listened more ,and observed the reality around us and responded accordingly ,things could actually improve. I hear a lot of what's wrong ,but not much about what's right .
We are becoming a bunch of whining crybabies ,pointing fingers and throwing temper tantrums .Try actually doing something that will improve the human condition we are all fated to live with .We are neighbors ,and brotheres and sisters .
Try to remember that .

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Jul 4, 2020 11:02:06   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
solarkin wrote:
There are many comments. and taglines printed, spoken and shared on media platforms that are just false and misleading .There seems to be no integrity ,or honesty left in reporting news. Anyone ,and everyone is taking a personal point of view ,and professing it as fact. Maybe if we listened more ,and observed the reality around us and responded accordingly ,things could actually improve. I hear a lot of what's wrong ,but not much about what's right .
We are becoming a bunch of whining crybabies ,pointing fingers and throwing temper tantrums .Try actually doing something that will improve the human condition we are all fated to live with .We are neighbors ,and brotheres and sisters .
Try to remember that .
There are many comments. and taglines printed, spo... (show quote)


Somethings are true. I believe trump went to MT Rushmore to give a speech. But otherwise, I have to agree with you. I guess most are just venting & posting their opinions?

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Jul 4, 2020 11:26:40   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
solarkin wrote:
There are many comments. and taglines printed, spoken and shared on media platforms that are just false and misleading .There seems to be no integrity ,or honesty left in reporting news. Anyone ,and everyone is taking a personal point of view ,and professing it as fact. Maybe if we listened more ,and observed the reality around us and responded accordingly ,things could actually improve. I hear a lot of what's wrong ,but not much about what's right .
We are becoming a bunch of whining crybabies ,pointing fingers and throwing temper tantrums .Try actually doing something that will improve the human condition we are all fated to live with .We are neighbors ,and brotheres and sisters .
Try to remember that .
There are many comments. and taglines printed, spo... (show quote)


Most complain about someone or something else. Hardly ever do we hear their idea of a workable solution or the party they support. Anyone can whine, takes a thinker to come up with a solution.

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Jul 4, 2020 11:41:00   #
JimMe
 
solarkin wrote:
There are many comments. and taglines printed, spoken and shared on media platforms that are just false and misleading .There seems to be no integrity ,or honesty left in reporting news. Anyone ,and everyone is taking a personal point of view ,and professing it as fact. Maybe if we listened more ,and observed the reality around us and responded accordingly ,things could actually improve. I hear a lot of what's wrong ,but not much about what's right .
We are becoming a bunch of whining crybabies ,pointing fingers and throwing temper tantrums .Try actually doing something that will improve the human condition we are all fated to live with .We are neighbors ,and brotheres and sisters .
Try to remember that .
There are many comments. and taglines printed, spo... (show quote)



solarkin...
It would help me/us understand exactly what you mean I/we should be doing if you told me/us what you're doing "... that will improve the human condition..." Give me/us a guideline... Actions I/we should take... Specifics you follow rather than generalities with no direction for actual improvement...

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Jul 4, 2020 11:47:05   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
JFlorio wrote:
Most complain about someone or something else. Hardly ever do we hear their idea of a workable solution or the party they support. Anyone can whine, takes a thinker to come up with a solution.


R**ting l**ting and burning are not solutions! This Country needs some serious culling!

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Jul 4, 2020 11:48:03   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
JimMe wrote:
solarkin...
It would help me/us understand exactly what you mean I/we should be doing if you told me/us what you're doing "... that will improve the human condition..." Give me/us a guideline... Actions I/we should take... Specifics you follow rather than generalities with no direction for actual improvement...


Don't know about Solarkin but I believe admitting Jesus Christ is who He said He was and He did what He came to do would be the first step. If everyone excepted those two t***hs then much of the ills of this world would be solved. Aside from the Faith aspect I think the internet going down for a couple of years would be beneficial to the human race.

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Jul 4, 2020 11:56:53   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
JFlorio wrote:
Most complain about someone or something else. Hardly ever do we hear their idea of a workable solution or the party they support. Anyone can whine, takes a thinker to come up with a solution.


I agree and a solution takes a consensus. But in the almost 4 yrs trump has been president, what solutions has he proposed that are acceptable to most Americans? The wall, does that really stop I'll legal immigration? What about those that fly into the country? The country was shut down, that didn't help. What about trying to shut down ACA 4 months before the e******n, what does that really accomplish? Whether you want to admit it, b***k A******ns have been subjected to horrendous treatment for a long time. Does trump do anything at all to try & qwell the r**ts? What about treatment of indiginous people (Indians), the US govt has a bad track record concerning them, again, what has trump done (built a pipeline across their sacred land)? Trump appeals to his base which is right of middle. He's very affective at stirring up hiss base. Regardless, I can't see how Trump will win in 2020 if all v**ers v**e. I think 2016 was an anomaly because many were unhappy with Hillary. Didn't he win FL & WI by just a few thousand v**es? But I'm not an expert so we'll just have to wait & see. He only has to win 270 e*****rs, but lose any of FL, NC, PA, WI, or MI & it becomes a very difficult task. You can flame throw me if you wish, but I'm curious about your thoughts.

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Jul 4, 2020 12:11:02   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
JFlorio wrote:
Most complain about someone or something else. Hardly ever do we hear their idea of a workable solution or the party they support. Anyone can whine, takes a thinker to come up with a solution.


Our Constitution is a brilliant workable solution that worked just fine and allowed for necessary changes to live up to the principles enshrined in the Declaration of independence. Then the progressives got ahold of it and corrupted its meaning. Now the left (B*M, A****a) is tinkering further with it, and the workings of government, at every opportunity, using our laws and freedom against us to achieve their nefarious ends, none of which is a workable solution.

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Jul 4, 2020 12:40:33   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
I agree and a solution takes a consensus. But in the almost 4 yrs trump has been president, what solutions has he proposed that are acceptable to most Americans? The wall, does that really stop I'll legal immigration? What about those that fly into the country? The country was shut down, that didn't help. What about trying to shut down ACA 4 months before the e******n, what does that really accomplish? Whether you want to admit it, b***k A******ns have been subjected to horrendous treatment for a long time. Does trump do anything at all to try & qwell the r**ts? What about treatment of indiginous people (Indians), the US govt has a bad track record concerning them, again, what has trump done (built a pipeline across their sacred land)? Trump appeals to his base which is right of middle. He's very affective at stirring up hiss base. Regardless, I can't see how Trump will win in 2020 if all v**ers v**e. I think 2016 was an anomaly because many were unhappy with Hillary. Didn't he win FL & WI by just a few thousand v**es? But I'm not an expert so we'll just have to wait & see. He only has to win 270 e*****rs, but lose any of FL, NC, PA, WI, or MI & it becomes a very difficult task. You can flame throw me if you wish, but I'm curious about your thoughts.
I agree and a solution takes a consensus. But in t... (show quote)


Seriously? The getting tough on China has a favorable (barely) percentage. I know I was for it. Tariffs are an imperfect solution but it is our only solution besides cutting all ties (my personal preference) with China; a country that constantly lies, manipulates currency, (a very unfair trading practice) and steals technology. China has a 380 million dollar trade surplus with the U.S.. All I can say about the Wall is they work. Not 100% but everywhere else in the world they are highly efficient. It helps if your politicians have the will to enforce such work. The ACA is a Constitutional problem not a shut down per se. I h**e the ACA but the stupid Republicans have not replaced it with something that works and the Democrats are content to use healthcare as a wedge issue. Hence, nothing gets done. B****s bring much of the so called horrendous treatment upon themselves. This doesn't excuse r****m but a culture that murders its own by the thousands and ignores those murders has no right to r**t and l**t when a small number of b****s are k**led by policeman. What would you have had Trump do to quell the r**ts? Pretty much the Governors job in those states. Indians have been treated unfairly for years and they are their own worst enemies also. Have relation that have worked on reservations for free as doctors. The were always a doomed culture. The pipeline has actually benefited most tribes. Are you for the casinos that have popped up on Indian land? Many would say they have been very destructive to the people of the reservation. I like the way we romanticize Indians in this nation. Did you know many tribes tried to completely eradicate other tribes? They also kept s***es and sold other Indians to Mexico. Were the Indians any better treated by Obama or any one before him? Why do you blame Trump? I believe Trump will lose. A biased press, a p******c that has crashed the economy would make it tough for Reagan to win. And Trump is no Reagan. Just remember I said this; Biden will be an economic and foreign policy disaster. You will see jobs leaving this country as never before. High inflation. Rising crime (mostly in large cities) rates, and a huge gap in income ine******y. Our constitutional rights will be slowly eroded with huge fights coming over the 1st and 2nd amendments. Third world immigrants will flood into the country and wages will be even further depressed. Trump is a poor politician but I agree with some of his policies. Biden is not mentally fit and will be a puppet of the left wing of the democrat party. Their platform is not anything I can agree with.

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Jul 4, 2020 16:37:26   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
solarkin wrote:
There are many comments. and taglines printed, spoken and shared on media platforms that are just false and misleading .There seems to be no integrity ,or honesty left in reporting news. Anyone ,and everyone is taking a personal point of view ,and professing it as fact. Maybe if we listened more ,and observed the reality around us and responded accordingly ,things could actually improve. I hear a lot of what's wrong ,but not much about what's right .
We are becoming a bunch of whining crybabies ,pointing fingers and throwing temper tantrums .Try actually doing something that will improve the human condition we are all fated to live with .We are neighbors ,and brotheres and sisters .
Try to remember that .
There are many comments. and taglines printed, spo... (show quote)


It's easier to find someone else to blame for the turds in our fenced in back yard.

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Jul 5, 2020 07:22:52   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Somethings are true. I believe trump went to MT Rushmore to give a speech. But otherwise, I have to agree with you. I guess most are just venting & posting their opinions?


It would help if you make a statement and someone presents a counter argument with evidence, that you do not reply with insults and condescension. The same is true if someone asks for your evidence to back up your point. When you resort to name calling and insults, it's as if you have no defense and are admitting defeat.

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Jul 5, 2020 07:59:39   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
JFlorio wrote:
Seriously? The getting tough on China has a favorable (barely) percentage. I know I was for it. Tariffs are an imperfect solution but it is our only solution besides cutting all ties (my personal preference) with China; a country that constantly lies, manipulates currency, (a very unfair trading practice) and steals technology. China has a 380 million dollar trade surplus with the U.S.. All I can say about the Wall is they work. Not 100% but everywhere else in the world they are highly efficient. It helps if your politicians have the will to enforce such work. The ACA is a Constitutional problem not a shut down per se. I h**e the ACA but the stupid Republicans have not replaced it with something that works and the Democrats are content to use healthcare as a wedge issue. Hence, nothing gets done. B****s bring much of the so called horrendous treatment upon themselves. This doesn't excuse r****m but a culture that murders its own by the thousands and ignores those murders has no right to r**t and l**t when a small number of b****s are k**led by policeman. What would you have had Trump do to quell the r**ts? Pretty much the Governors job in those states. Indians have been treated unfairly for years and they are their own worst enemies also. Have relation that have worked on reservations for free as doctors. The were always a doomed culture. The pipeline has actually benefited most tribes. Are you for the casinos that have popped up on Indian land? Many would say they have been very destructive to the people of the reservation. I like the way we romanticize Indians in this nation. Did you know many tribes tried to completely eradicate other tribes? They also kept s***es and sold other Indians to Mexico. Were the Indians any better treated by Obama or any one before him? Why do you blame Trump? I believe Trump will lose. A biased press, a p******c that has crashed the economy would make it tough for Reagan to win. And Trump is no Reagan. Just remember I said this; Biden will be an economic and foreign policy disaster. You will see jobs leaving this country as never before. High inflation. Rising crime (mostly in large cities) rates, and a huge gap in income ine******y. Our constitutional rights will be slowly eroded with huge fights coming over the 1st and 2nd amendments. Third world immigrants will flood into the country and wages will be even further depressed. Trump is a poor politician but I agree with some of his policies. Biden is not mentally fit and will be a puppet of the left wing of the democrat party. Their platform is not anything I can agree with.
Seriously? The getting tough on China has a favora... (show quote)


First, I think if you don't like products from China, don't buy them. They're just so darn cheap, junk mostly but cheap. There are exceptions b like the iPhone. I try & never buy food from China. It was business men (like trump?) that port is in this mess with China. I don't think tariffs are the answer because citizensare the ones paying, not governments. The Indians have been in North American for thousands of years, only defeated because of technology, not a domed culture. Yes, I know they ens***ed and committed atrocities against other tribes. That's the way their culture worked. I think Trump's actions make him seem insensitive to police brutality. He wss sued by Nixon justice dept for refusing to rent his apartments tio b****s. He called those NFL players kneeling in protest SoBs. He's against removing Confederate generals names from army posts. Trump is blind when it comes to race. I don't agree with your dim & gloom prediction. I live in an area that has a lot of immigrant labor. Most come here to make a stake of money and then head home. A lot of jobs, cooking, wait staff, and hotel/motel cleaning are predominately immigrants. They did an outstanding job that most white citizens won't do. I know a person that has a blueberry farm in ME, very hard to get labor to puck blueberries. I don't know about Biden winning. Trump is very wiley and a lot can happen between now & e******n day. But wh**ever happens, I hope it is clear cut & decisive & doesn't require lawyers & the Supreme Court to decide the outcome. I guess the future holds the key to the mystery surrounding #45 & historians will decide his place.

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Jul 5, 2020 09:13:08   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
I agree and a solution takes a consensus. But in the almost 4 yrs trump has been president, what solutions has he proposed that are acceptable to most Americans? The wall, does that really stop I'll legal immigration? What about those that fly into the country? The country was shut down, that didn't help. What about trying to shut down ACA 4 months before the e******n, what does that really accomplish? Whether you want to admit it, b***k A******ns have been subjected to horrendous treatment for a long time. Does trump do anything at all to try & qwell the r**ts? What about treatment of indiginous people (Indians), the US govt has a bad track record concerning them, again, what has trump done (built a pipeline across their sacred land)? Trump appeals to his base which is right of middle. He's very affective at stirring up hiss base. Regardless, I can't see how Trump will win in 2020 if all v**ers v**e. I think 2016 was an anomaly because many were unhappy with Hillary. Didn't he win FL & WI by just a few thousand v**es? But I'm not an expert so we'll just have to wait & see. He only has to win 270 e*****rs, but lose any of FL, NC, PA, WI, or MI & it becomes a very difficult task. You can flame throw me if you wish, but I'm curious about your thoughts.
I agree and a solution takes a consensus. But in t... (show quote)


He attempted to take a census but Judge Roberts blocked it. The second or third time he's done that under Trump. After saying Trump had the authority to do so. The man works for the deep state and appears on Epstein's flight log. Only two well known John Roberts in D.C. one is a judge and one is a reporter. The reporter has an alibi.
Just guessing that will be a question the FBI will be asking Maxwell.

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Jul 5, 2020 09:35:41   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
solarkin wrote:
There are many comments. and taglines printed, spoken and shared on media platforms that are just false and misleading .There seems to be no integrity ,or honesty left in reporting news. Anyone ,and everyone is taking a personal point of view ,and professing it as fact. Maybe if we listened more ,and observed the reality around us and responded accordingly ,things could actually improve. I hear a lot of what's wrong ,but not much about what's right .
We are becoming a bunch of whining crybabies ,pointing fingers and throwing temper tantrums .Try actually doing something that will improve the human condition we are all fated to live with .We are neighbors ,and brotheres and sisters .
Try to remember that .
There are many comments. and taglines printed, spo... (show quote)


To quote Biden when he said "He deals in T***h, not facts."
In his senility, he disclosed the MO of the democrats and MSM. Tell a lie and plaster it all over and eventually some will believe it with total disregard of the facts. I am amazed that no conservative outfit has not picked up on this. It would be a great tag line for Trump ad.

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Jul 5, 2020 10:19:04   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
First, I think if you don't like products from China, don't buy them. They're just so darn cheap, junk mostly but cheap. There are exceptions b like the iPhone. I try & never buy food from China. It was business men (like trump?) that port is in this mess with China. I don't think tariffs are the answer because citizensare the ones paying, not governments. The Indians have been in North American for thousands of years, only defeated because of technology, not a domed culture. Yes, I know they ens***ed and committed atrocities against other tribes. That's the way their culture worked. I think Trump's actions make him seem insensitive to police brutality. He wss sued by Nixon justice dept for refusing to rent his apartments tio b****s. He called those NFL players kneeling in protest SoBs. He's against removing Confederate generals names from army posts. Trump is blind when it comes to race. I don't agree with your dim & gloom prediction. I live in an area that has a lot of immigrant labor. Most come here to make a stake of money and then head home. A lot of jobs, cooking, wait staff, and hotel/motel cleaning are predominately immigrants. They did an outstanding job that most white citizens won't do. I know a person that has a blueberry farm in ME, very hard to get labor to puck blueberries. I don't know about Biden winning. Trump is very wiley and a lot can happen between now & e******n day. But wh**ever happens, I hope it is clear cut & decisive & doesn't require lawyers & the Supreme Court to decide the outcome. I guess the future holds the key to the mystery surrounding #45 & historians will decide his place.
First, I think if you don't like products from Chi... (show quote)


If tariffs become high enough, products become too expensive to buy. the consumer goes elsewhere and the countries whose products had high tariffs put on them is hurt. What would you have us do to level the field with our biggest enemy? The lack of technology was exactly why the Indians were a doomed culture. Insensitive to police brutality? I don't see it. Immigrants pour in here from third world countries and many don't want to assimilate as in my fathers days. some get a better standard of living just by being here than they had in their country. That's why Trump calls for merit immigration. Let those in we need. Too many uneducated third world workers bring down wages. Do you get that? My gloom and doom prediction is based on a number of economic factors. I'm not sure Trump can turn them around and I know Biden will accelerate the problems I foresee

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