The Media is Lying About the ‘Second Wave’ (Page 2): Have to agree on that reasoning, 👍🏻👍🏻.

iFrank Loc: San Antonio

ACP45 wrote:

Sici, some things of importance bear repetition!

Have to agree on that reasoning, 👍🏻👍🏻.

bestpal38 Loc: Cedar City, Utah

ACP45 wrote:

As Dr. Ron Paul points out in his article below, have you noticed the shift in media hype from "deaths" to "cases"?

Have you been heard the "scare stories of Houston hospitals being overwhelmed with C***d cases"? Not True!

"In fact, there has been much reporting that the “spike” in Texas cases is not due to a resurgence of the v***s but to hospital practices of C***d-testing every patient coming in for any procedure at all. If it’s a positive, well that counts as a “C***d hospitalization.” Why would hospitals be so dishonest in their diagnoses? Billions of appropriated Federal dollars are being funneled to facilities based on the number of “C***d cases” they can produce. As I’ve always said, if you subsidize something you get more of it. And that’s why we are getting more C***d cases."

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/06/ron-paul/the-media-is-lying-about-the-second-wave/

Also, as an FYI, there was a great article on the Mercola website entitled "Majority of People Are Already Resistant to SARS-CoV-2". Here are the highlights:

Story at-a-glance

SARS-CoV-2-specific antibodies are only found in the most severe cases — about 1 in 5. That suggests C****-** may in fact be five times more prevalent than suspected. It also means it may be five times less deadly than predicted.

Even though people who had been exposed to infected individuals had SARS-CoV-2-specific immunoglobulin A (IgA) antibodies in their mucosa, there were no v***s-specific antibodies in their blood.

The strength of antiv***l immune responses, including T cell activation and proliferation, slows with age. This can help explain why older people are vastly more susceptible to severe C****-** illness and death.

Your humoral i****e s****m can kick in if there’s cross-reactivity with another very similar pathogen. In the case of C****-**, there’s evidence to suggest exposure to other c****av***ses that cause the common cold can confer immunity against SARS-CoV-2.

Between 40% and 60% of people who have not been exposed to SARS-CoV-2 still have resistance to the v***s on the T-cell level.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/06/30/can-your-immune-system-fight-off-c****av***s.aspx?cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20200630Z1&et_cid=DM580179&et_rid=905646807

As Dr. Ron Paul points out in his article below, h... (show quote)

F***i on TV yesterday sounding the alarm!! We must shut down again, we need to d**g this out to November, so we all can blame the president, and v**e him out of office. Oh yeah, and everyone needs to get the F***i v*****e!! Tha F***i guy is a fraud. Keep spreading fear Dr dipsh*&6

Sicilianthing

ACP45 wrote:

Sici, some things of importance bear repetition!

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Agreed just sayin, now comes phase 2

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

Marty 2020 wrote:

I just read that email!
Rockwell is a light shining in the darkness of America!

Only problem, he's not an authority. Just another's opinion.

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

debeda wrote:

Positive cases are the same as deaths? So there is a 100% death rate

That isn't true. Not every one that tests positive gets severely ill or dies.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

ACP45 wrote:

As Dr. Ron Paul points out in his article below, have you noticed the shift in media hype from "deaths" to "cases"?

Have you been heard the "scare stories of Houston hospitals being overwhelmed with C***d cases"? Not True!

"In fact, there has been much reporting that the “spike” in Texas cases is not due to a resurgence of the v***s but to hospital practices of C***d-testing every patient coming in for any procedure at all. If it’s a positive, well that counts as a “C***d hospitalization.” Why would hospitals be so dishonest in their diagnoses? Billions of appropriated Federal dollars are being funneled to facilities based on the number of “C***d cases” they can produce. As I’ve always said, if you subsidize something you get more of it. And that’s why we are getting more C***d cases."

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/06/ron-paul/the-media-is-lying-about-the-second-wave/

Also, as an FYI, there was a great article on the Mercola website entitled "Majority of People Are Already Resistant to SARS-CoV-2". Here are the highlights:

Story at-a-glance

SARS-CoV-2-specific antibodies are only found in the most severe cases — about 1 in 5. That suggests C****-** may in fact be five times more prevalent than suspected. It also means it may be five times less deadly than predicted.

Even though people who had been exposed to infected individuals had SARS-CoV-2-specific immunoglobulin A (IgA) antibodies in their mucosa, there were no v***s-specific antibodies in their blood.

The strength of antiv***l immune responses, including T cell activation and proliferation, slows with age. This can help explain why older people are vastly more susceptible to severe C****-** illness and death.

Your humoral i****e s****m can kick in if there’s cross-reactivity with another very similar pathogen. In the case of C****-**, there’s evidence to suggest exposure to other c****av***ses that cause the common cold can confer immunity against SARS-CoV-2.

Between 40% and 60% of people who have not been exposed to SARS-CoV-2 still have resistance to the v***s on the T-cell level.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/06/30/can-your-immune-system-fight-off-c****av***s.aspx?cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20200630Z1&et_cid=DM580179&et_rid=905646807

As Dr. Ron Paul points out in his article below, h... (show quote)

Here is your second wave. I have a friend Bill. His mom recently tested positive for C***d, she has to go back in 14 days for another test. They should count that as 1 patient no matter how many tests. Nope they count each test separately. Padding again?

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Capt-jack wrote:

For your feeble mind to work on 330 million in America and only 500 thousand dead. So, your job is to work that out for the percentage. GO

My math isn't great, I get something like 12.8%

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

BearK wrote:

This is according to a doctor, as quoted by Gatewa... (show quote)

Me either except for one time when an a****a thug tried to rob the store and I stopped it. They asked me to wear a mask if I went in front of a camera so I left.

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:

Here is your second wave. I have a friend Bill. His mom recently tested positive for C***d, she has to go back in 14 days for another test. They should count that as 1 patient no matter how many tests. Nope they count each test separately. Padding again?

Its not the second wave. Continuation of spreading of 1st wave.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

permafrost wrote:

ACP,, I agree this is not the Second wave... it is still the first wave developing just as the experts told us it would..

From failing to follow the advise, and opening to soon, this is all unrolling as predicted..

That's where all of you fall short. Don't you think there are other doctors with a vastly differing opinion than F***i or Birx? Actually or the WHO or the CDC. We listen to them, we aren't sheep and have our own minds. Spring breakers were a little silly (always are), but they did get the herd immunity message out there. Btw, I haven't heard of any of them getting sick.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

bestpal38 wrote:

F***i on TV yesterday sounding the alarm!! We must shut down again, we need to d**g this out to November, so we all can blame the president, and v**e him out of office. Oh yeah, and everyone needs to get the F***i v*****e!! Tha F***i guy is a fraud. Keep spreading fear Dr dipsh*&6

I've known that he was a fraud for months. Alexandra showed me her notes.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Tiptop789 wrote:

Its not the second wave. Continuation of spreading of 1st wave.

That was sarcasm.

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:

That's where all of you fall short. Don't you think there are other doctors with a vastly differing opinion than F***i or Birx? Actually or the WHO or the CDC. We listen to them, we aren't sheep and have our own minds. Spring breakers were a little silly (always are), but they did get the herd immunity message out there. Btw, I haven't heard of any of them getting sick.

You're right to question results & opinions. Your not sheep & you have minds. Let me ask which source will you choose to trust? What criteria will you use to decide the veracity of a source? There's been a lot of discussion about herd immunity, but I don't think there's been a conclusion (as to whether it's possible to catch it twice) one way or the other. This v***s mutates, what are the effects? The University of Washington has a prediction web site that discusses illnesses and allows drilling down to specific areas (states). There are charts that show the not only the number of hospital beds, but ICU beds available depending on whether citizens use masks or not. The U of Wash predictor is pretty accurate. There are also other resources available on the internet. It's very difficult to separate the chaff from the wheat as they say. At any rate, stay healthy. I look forward to our disagreements in the future.

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:

That was sarcasm.

oh, went over my head

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:

That's where all of you fall short. Don't you think there are other doctors with a vastly differing opinion than F***i or Birx? Actually or the WHO or the CDC. We listen to them, we aren't sheep and have our own minds. Spring breakers were a little silly (always are), but they did get the herd immunity message out there. Btw, I haven't heard of any of them getting sick.

Rob, being an old guy, I look at the numbers.. Near 130,000 dead..

I do not care about % or about Ratios, it is clear that the v***s can k**l you and has done that with a lot of people..

If we had done as well as other nations, we would now be openly traveling to the EU or anywhere else we wished..

The failure to act fast and properly may or may not of cost 1000s of lives, but it did for sure cost us time and money in the recovery yet to come..

I do not see it as an opinion contest at all.. dead is dead.. protection/caution if not for ourselves, then for other. People we care about..

One more, those spring breakers.... the high spike in Florida may have them as a root cause..

I maybe over cautious, but as an old guy who still feels pretty good most days, I would like to stay that way as long as possible..

Have a good day Rob..