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Jun 30, 2020 22:52:41   #
tbutkovich
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Lol, sorry but I have been tested by Mensa 3 times and my lowest score was exactly 2.33333 time 60. What was your?


Your numbers prove that you are intelligent, but the real question is: “Do you have wisdom?”

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Jun 30, 2020 22:57:41   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Crayons wrote:
You're in a l*****t cult styled denial that's obsessed with promoting the ongoing destruction of America


I have not seen one post from the liberals on what Biden and the Democrats are going to do for Americans. They just tell us how much they h**e Trump. O.K. we get it. They h**e Trump. What I see from Democrats is defund or dismantle the police. Destroy public property. Cave to the most radical among us and basically pronounce America a bad, r****t country. We are trillions in debt. Thank you Bush, Obama, Trump and above all Congress. Democrats answer: Spend even more than the Republicans. Insane.

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Jun 30, 2020 23:01:42   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
I have not seen one post from the liberals on what Biden and the Democrats are going to do for Americans. They just tell us how much they h**e Trump. O.K. we get it. They h**e Trump. What I see from Democrats is defund or dismantle the police. Destroy public property. Cave to the most radical among us and basically pronounce America a bad, r****t country. We are trillions in debt. Thank you Bush, Obama, Trump and above all Congress. Democrats answer: Spend even more than the Republicans. Insane.
I have not seen one post from the liberals on what... (show quote)

I don't have a problem with Trump...I have a problem with the Uniparty-Duopolists and the G*******ts they answer to

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Jun 30, 2020 23:04:26   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
JFlorio wrote:
Now you are a liar. Or you smoked a boat load of dope and drank a bunch of alcohol. No way your I.Q. Is close to 140. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Doesn’t mean crap. I know a lot of educated i***ts. Last time I was tested in college I believe I was around 134.


No lie, tested 3 times, 140, 144, 145. If you know anything about government service levels, I retired as a GS-15, which is the highest civilian grade you can reach without an SES appointment. By the way, a GS-15 is equivalent to a full colonel in the military. So yeah I am not lying.

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Jun 30, 2020 23:09:13   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Your numbers prove that you are intelligent, but the real question is: “Do you have wisdom?”


That is a really good question and I believe that people who really know me would absolutely say yes. When I retired I ran a wildland fire program for the Federal Government in DOI with a $110 million annual budget and 3,500 employees dealing with work that k**ls people who are unwise. Never lost a man or woman on my watch, and I conducted over 350 planned prescribed burns in my career as the "Burn Boss". Never had a single one of those 350 burns get away, so that might tell you something.

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Jun 30, 2020 23:10:25   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
No lie, tested 3 times, 140, 144, 145. If you know anything about government service levels, I retired as a GS-15, which is the highest civilian grade you can reach without an SES appointment. By the way, a GS-15 is equivalent to a full colonel in the military. So yeah I am not lying.


Congratulations. You may be quite intelligent. But like someone else asked, do you have wisdom? You were a Govt. employee (Federal). Explains a lot.

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Jun 30, 2020 23:13:24   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Tells me you were really good at your job. So am I. So what? I’m not being a smart ass here. Obviously you were a problem solver and you solved problems by taking emotion out of your job. Correct? I don’t see the same approach from you politically.
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
That is a really good question and I believe that people who really know me would absolutely say yes. When I retired I ran a wildland fire program for the Federal Government in DOI with a $110 million annual budget and 3,500 employees dealing with work that k**ls people who are unwise. Never lost a man or woman on my watch, and I conducted over 350 planned prescribed burns in my career as the "Burn Boss". Never had a single one of those 350 burns get away, so that might tell you something.
That is a really good question and I believe that ... (show quote)

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Jun 30, 2020 23:18:54   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Crayons wrote:
You're in a l*****t cult styled denial that's obsessed with promoting the ongoing destruction of America


Bullsh$t again, I'm not even a democrat, never have been. I was a republican for many years, v**ed for Reagan twice. But the party of Trump sure ain't the Republican party I used to know. I am not a Biden fan, but like Trumpy said, after 3.5 years of Trumpian choas, what have we got to lose. I can find absolutely no reason to believe that Biden would not be a huge improvement over the current dumpster fire that is TRUMP.

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Jun 30, 2020 23:25:44   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
JFlorio wrote:
Tells me you were really good at your job. So am I. So what? I’m not being a smart ass here. Obviously you were a problem solver and you solved problems by taking emotion out of your job. Correct? I don’t see the same approach from you politically.


Yep a lot of t***h there, the main reason is I have just utterly hit my limit with the idiocy I see on this forum and with the far right in this country and what that is doing to the country I spent most of my life protecting. I'm getting old and I'm personally really pissed off that my country has gotten to this point. When Trump was elected I thought, OK he will have a good foundation around him to support him and he will learn in the job so it won't be too bad. Well I was not smart enough nor did I have sufficient wisdom at that time to understand the stupidity of that thinking. And I was never a Hillary supporter either. It just k**ls me that neither party can come up with a decent candidate these days. So I am letting it be known to all who care right here and now: I am not v****g for Biden, I am v****g against Trump and for the future of our nation.

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Jun 30, 2020 23:30:20   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I disagree with your stance, but I understand it. I v**ed against Hillary more than I v**ed for Trump. I also don’t see the right destroying the country. I see the left, A****A and B*M l**ting, r**ting , and destroying property. Almost exclusively in cities run by Democrats. I believe they will bring these same radical views to Washington if Biden wins. I believe he is demented. I’ve stated why. I believe he will be a puppet of the far left. In my view the far left is my enemy. Where I stand.
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Yep a lot of t***h there, the main reason is I have just utterly hit my limit with the idiocy I see on this forum and with the far right in this country and what that is doing to the country I spent most of my life protecting. I'm getting old and I'm personally really pissed off that my country has gotten to this point. When Trump was elected I thought, OK he will have a good foundation around him to support him and he will learn in the job so it won't be too bad. Well I was not smart enough nor did I have sufficient wisdom at that time to understand the stupidity of that thinking. And I was never a Hillary supporter either. It just k**ls me that neither party can come up with a decent candidate these days. So I am letting it be known to all who care right here and now: I am not v****g for Biden, I am v****g against Trump and for the future of our nation.
Yep a lot of t***h there, the main reason is I hav... (show quote)

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Jun 30, 2020 23:31:58   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
JFlorio wrote:
Congratulations. You may be quite intelligent. But like someone else asked, do you have wisdom? You were a Govt. employee (Federal). Explains a lot.


Lol you really don't understand government employees now do you. When I retired I had to take a year off due to the position I was in prior to working as a wildland fire expert in a civilian capacity. After a year I began working as a fire expert as a private contractor to large think tank organizations. They paid me three times what I was making as a GS-15 step 8 when I retired. Wildland fire is the closest governmental organization that you can find to the military. It was really modeled after the military after the crazy fire seasons in the early 1900s. Just wondering if you hold our military in the same regard you apparently hold other Federal employees?

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Jun 30, 2020 23:34:00   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Bullsh$t again, I'm not even a democrat, never have been. I was a republican for many years, v**ed for Reagan twice. But the party of Trump sure ain't the Republican party I used to know. I am not a Biden fan, but like Trumpy said, after 3.5 years of Trumpian choas, what have we got to lose. I can find absolutely no reason to believe that Biden would not be a huge improvement over the current dumpster fire that is TRUMP.

You talk a big game, but you're more worried about Trumpy firing the bloated bureaucrats who're shoring up yer personal gubmint-benefits

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Jun 30, 2020 23:40:28   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
JFlorio wrote:
I disagree with your stance, but I understand it. I v**ed against Hillary more than I v**ed for Trump. I also don’t see the right destroying the country. I see the left, A****A and B*M l**ting, r**ting , and destroying property. Almost exclusively in cities run by Democrats. I believe they will bring these same radical views to Washington if Biden wins. I believe he is demented. I’ve stated why. I believe he will be a puppet of the far left. In my view the far left is my enemy. Where I stand.


I think you should explore what really happened at the protests a bit more. Was A****a there? I have found no data that proves they had much of anything to do with it. I am not an A****a supporter at all, but people need to understand the t***h. Most of the B*M led protests were not l**ting and r**ts. Their organizers understood they needed to keep things calm and protest non-violently or they would be directly hurting their efforts for change.

Unfortunately what the data has been showing is that much of the violence and l**ting and r**ting may have been provoked more by the far right groups like Boogaloo than by B*M or A****a. In my mind the far right white nationalists are the groups we should be more worried about than B*M and A****a.

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Jun 30, 2020 23:42:23   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Crayons wrote:
You talk a big game, but you're more worried about Trumpy firing the bloated bureaucrats who're shoring up yer personal gubmint-benefits


Bullsh$t again Crayola.

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Jun 30, 2020 23:45:30   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Actually you are wrong about me. I do a lot of pro bono work for Veterans. My nephew won the Audi Murphy award presented to him at West Point.
I do deal with a lot of government agencies so yes I probably am a bit biased towards some. I see plenty of incompetence In the VA, IRS, Medicare, and Medicaid to name a few. The military bureaucracy has real problems. I imagine you know this. There are now more clerks, administration and bureaucrats in the military than fighting men and women. That seems wasteful to me. Seems to me your job was important and beneficial to Americans.
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Lol you really don't understand government employees now do you. When I retired I had to take a year off due to the position I was in prior to working as a wildland fire expert in a civilian capacity. After a year I began working as a fire expert as a private contractor to large think tank organizations. They paid me three times what I was making as a GS-15 step 8 when I retired. Wildland fire is the closest governmental organization that you can find to the military. It was really modeled after the military after the crazy fire seasons in the early 1900s. Just wondering if you hold our military in the same regard you apparently hold other Federal employees?
Lol you really don't understand government employe... (show quote)

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