federally indicted mattoid

Yes, how?

Let's hear your suggestions.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I’ll do it sometime. It’s pretty comprehensive but I’ll put together the main points.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Wildlandfirefighter

Yes B*M was there is force, I have not seen anything that would lead me to that conclusion for A****a. I have seen several of the B*M posts that went out when they were getting these protests together and every one of them made it clear the organizers wanted no r**ting, no violence, no l**ting, and they encouraged everyone that came out to wear a mask. I have seen B*M organizers and their followers time after time trying to stop the anarchy on live TV. They understand that the country would support peaceful protests, but not violent protests. If they do want to change the country, l**ting, r**ting and violence is not the way.

I have seen evidence that some of the violence was definitely perpetrated by right wing groups, which unfortunately are much more prevalent in this country and have been around longer and had more time to develop than A****a or B*M by an exponential amount.

I have also seen those groups of black clad white people come in during the early days and incite things changing calm protests into raging destruction. Saw one clip where the B*M folks took down some of these guys and pulled their masks off and lo and behold, a white guy was underneath.

I believe it will be borne out that much of the very worst stuff was perpetrated by these folks. We know it was a Boogaloo dude in the military that k**led two police officers in California, not A****a or B*M. It was a Boogaloo type who shot a protester in New Mexico a few weeks back. It was a w***e s*********t group that sent out a f**e notice of call to action for A****a for the Floyd protests.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456

According to what I have found, h**e groups in general have grown by 30% in this country since 2014, and white nationalist groups have increased by 55% since Trump took office.

https://www.counterextremism.com/content/us-white-supremacy-groups
https://www.splcenter.org/h**e-map

And yes once the vandalism started, there were plenty of thugs that took advantage and l**ted stores, but also plenty of times when B*M and other protesters halted these actions.

So there is plenty of blame to go around, but I can support every claim I just made. We don't know for sure but if A****a was involved I doubt it was in any significant way outside of maybe what happened in Seattle. I believe B*M tried to have peaceful protests and that many of the protesters actually defended private property from the anarchists that were also there, and I have proof that the far right was involved. The violent protest in Minneapolis were apparently helped out by another bunch of Boogaloo types, several of whom where arrested when their plan to throw molatov cocktails at police was uncovered.

Anyway there seems to be a lot more proof that Boogaloo and other far right groups were much more involved in the violence and destruction than I have been able to find on A****a.

Currently there are some 1020 h**e groups in the country with who knows how many members. And they all likely want you to think it was A****a and B*M that caused all the major problems. I don't buy it and the data does not support these claims either.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sethcohen/2020/06/16/civil-war-20-the-boogaloo-movement-is-a-wake-up-call-for-america/#3ebbfe2371ab

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/3-alleged-boogaloo-members-charged-in-las-vegas-protests-2044384/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/style/boogaloo-hawaiian-shirt.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/tech/facebook-boogaloo-ban/index.html

https://publicintegrity.org/politics/white-extremist-groups-are-growing-and-changing/

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/05/27/the-boogaloo-movement-is-not-what-you-think/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/06/16/albuquerque-protest-civil-guard-stephen-baca-arrested/3198382001/

So I worry more about these white nationalist groups that want to start a second civil war (that is Boogaloo's prime claim to fame) and that have become so prevalent than I do about A****a and B*M at this point in time.

Wildlandfirefighter

Wildlandfirefighter

Lol, very well said my good man

Wildlandfirefighter

Thanks and absolutely but there were many days when I was not able to save as many in the WUI as I would have liked. Mother Nature can only be controlled when she decides to be cooperative. If the wind is blowing 50 mph and the fuels are dry, its about like trying to herd a hurricane.

Wildlandfirefighter

Well unfortunately the exact same thing can be said of C***d testing across the country. The data show the number of tests administered, not the number of people who have been tested. Trump gets tested once a day at least as do all the staff in close proximity. So Trump may be personally accounting for 100 or more tests, same with Pence and many others. That is skewing pretty bad the entire data on testing and it makes things look a whole lot better than reality. Who knows, maybe we have only tested 30% of what we think.

federally indicted mattoid

Give suggestions, not complaints.

I'll do the same.

You first. Your party is in power

federally indicted mattoid

Understood, and I don't envy the folks having to fight the wildfires on the horizons...

Dry as a bone where I am, a******lly so....

This admin has moved this #1 priiority into the ditch completely and now uses flashy, drama-laden, made up bs to the point of insanity that is meant to drive us to distraction.

Problem is not going away.

Wildlandfirefighter

Nope, its getting progressively worse. The near term future looks quite bad. I can't imagine how they are going to keep line firefighters safe. Fire camps out in the middle of nowhere with hundreds of firefighters living, eating, and working in close proximity for 12+ hours shifts of physical intensive labor three weeks straight is going to create breeding grounds for the spread. We have about 104 hotshot crews nationally and 250 smokejumpers. Those are the fire communities delta force. If c***d gets into them, our ability to deal with Mother Nature's nastiness will be seriously degraded.

Rose42

Sure you were.

Kickaha Loc: Nebraska

Latest report has 4 Democrats committing v**e f***d in one special e******n in New Jersey. It was a mail in e******n. If they could find that much in one small e******n, how much could they find in a national e******n? I don't care if it's republicans or democrats doing it, it is wrong and the guilty parties need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Wildlandfirefighter

"I don't care if it's republicans or democrats doing it, it is wrong and the guilty parties need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law."

Cuda2020

Well Thanks for that, I'm surprised I must say. I agree on more things on the conservative side then you might think. A big pet peeve of mine is keeping one language. And I wonder why so many telemarketing jobs are outsourced to India people? I wouldn't care except that I find them to be the hardest to understand what they are saying. It's not meant to be a r****t remark, but if I had a telephone communications business I would use the people easiest for customers to understand, just saying, I'll probably get heat for that.