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Jul 15, 2014 08:14:19   #
Kevyn
 
This is a great essay explaining how right wing propaganda that is patently false has replaced scientifically and medically based education to deliberately mislead and misinform students. And how they are harmed as a result.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/15/abstinence-sex-education-teaches-virgins-teens

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Jul 15, 2014 08:22:08   #
Caboose Loc: South Carolina
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is a great essay explaining how right wing propaganda that is patently false has replaced scientifically and medically based education to deliberately mislead and misinform students. And how they are harmed as a result.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/15/abstinence-sex-education-teaches-virgins-teens


Sounds like youre the one spreading the propaganda.

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Jul 15, 2014 08:32:01   #
Kevyn
 
Caboose wrote:
Sounds like youre the one spreading the propaganda.


What a well thought out rebuttal to a well researched article, bravo!

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Jul 15, 2014 09:13:15   #
kush
 
Kevyn wrote:
What a well thought out rebuttal to a well researched article, bravo!


SOS.....I seldom bother here because:

1. Most here cannot separate opinion from fact.

2. Too much "name calling", hatred and stupidity.

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Jul 15, 2014 09:36:35   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is a great essay explaining how right wing propaganda that is patently false has replaced scientifically and medically based education to deliberately mislead and misinform students. And how they are harmed as a result.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/15/abstinence-sex-education-teaches-virgins-teens



Anything from an article by or promoted by H****r Thompson has to be suspect. Intercourse with a person carrying the human papaloma (spelling is wrong, but this borrowed computer does not have spell check) v***s may cause cancer and more and more teenage children are carrying the v***s. Condoms are not very effective for preventing spread of v***ses. In anal intercourse condoms are lest than fifty percent effective in HIV and papaloma prevention. It does depend on whether you consider a sexual act such as intercourse to be no no more emotional than the breeding of a rooster to a hen, or whether you believe that intercourse between people should contain an emotional or spiritual connection as to whether you think casual sex is no different than sharing a candy bar or borrowing a friend's comb. and therefore not emotionally damaging if entered into causualy. When my wife was a teenager she was told that intercourse was a special act to be done by married couples only' and what ever discussions happened in my family, only by my mother, went the same way. Until we were married 48 years ago we had never had intercourse, and abstinence worked fine. If I were teaching a health class which included sex education, it would be separated. female teacher teaching girls, and a male teacher teaching boys. It would include the biological facts, plus about five minutes on the methods that work with the lowest failure rates for preventing pregnancy. It would not include discussions of oral, anal, multiple partners at the same time how to watch pornography while having sex, or any of the nonsense that the GLBT organizations put out about t*********r, s*x c****e operations, or sex with animals. The biological facts including impregnation how a baby develops, and what happens to cause an erection, and why erections are not always in response to sexual interests would be covered. As I said, it would be same sex discussions because both boys and girls would have questions that they might not ask in front of the opposite sex. It would also be filmed to prevent inappropriate discussions or activities between students and/or teachers.

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Jul 15, 2014 09:44:18   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is a great essay explaining how right wing propaganda that is patently false has replaced scientifically and medically based education to deliberately mislead and misinform students. And how they are harmed as a result.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/15/abstinence-sex-education-teaches-virgins-teens

Where do you get the notion that any of this is right-wing propaganda? You just threw that term in there because it fits your agenda. There is nothing political about the article whatsoever.

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Jul 15, 2014 09:51:18   #
Kevyn
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Anything from an article by or promoted by H****r Thompson has to be suspect. Intercourse with a person carrying the human papaloma (spelling is wrong, but this borrowed computer does not have spell check) v***s may cause cancer and more and more teenage children are carrying the v***s. Condoms are not very effective for preventing spread of v***ses. In anal intercourse condoms are lest than fifty percent effective in HIV and papaloma prevention. It does depend on whether you consider a sexual act such as intercourse to be no no more emotional than the breeding of a rooster to a hen, or whether you believe that intercourse between people should contain an emotional or spiritual connection as to whether you think casual sex is no different than sharing a candy bar or borrowing a friend's comb. and therefore not emotionally damaging if entered into causualy. When my wife was a teenager she was told that intercourse was a special act to be done by married couples only' and what ever discussions happened in my family, only by my mother, went the same way. Until we were married 48 years ago we had never had intercourse, and abstinence worked fine. If I were teaching a health class which included sex education, it would be separated. female teacher teaching girls, and a male teacher teaching boys. It would include the biological facts, plus about five minutes on the methods that work with the lowest failure rates for preventing pregnancy. It would not include discussions of oral, anal, multiple partners at the same time how to watch pornography while having sex, or any of the nonsense that the GLBT organizations put out about t*********r, s*x c****e operations, or sex with animals. The biological facts including impregnation how a baby develops, and what happens to cause an erection, and why erections are not always in response to sexual interests would be covered. As I said, it would be same sex discussions because both boys and girls would have questions that they might not ask in front of the opposite sex. It would also be filmed to prevent inappropriate discussions or activities between students and/or teachers.
Anything from an article by or promoted by H****r ... (show quote)

This article is in today's Guardian, not by Thompson, the Thomson quote is at the bottom of everything I post as part of my profile and speaks to the present state of clueless paranoia infecting our nation. Thompson has been dead for a number of years. I have no problem with teaching human reproduction as part of a science curriculum, what is reprehensible is lying to students in order to control their behavior. While I congratulate you and youe wife on your apparently happy relationship, many people enjoy healthy sex lives before or outside of marriage and knowing how to do so safely in no way precludes anyone from maintaining virginity to marriage. Knowledge is rarely detrimental to anyone, lies however have no place in education.

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Jul 15, 2014 09:54:24   #
VladimirPee
 
Not having sex doesn't work? How do they get pregnant then? Watermelon seeds?


Kevyn wrote:
This is a great essay explaining how right wing propaganda that is patently false has replaced scientifically and medically based education to deliberately mislead and misinform students. And how they are harmed as a result.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/15/abstinence-sex-education-teaches-virgins-teens

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Jul 15, 2014 10:15:46   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Kevyn wrote:
This article is in today's Guardian, not by Thompson, the Thomson quote is at the bottom of everything I post as part of my profile and speaks to the present state of clueless paranoia infecting our nation. Thompson has been dead for a number of years. I have no problem with teaching human reproduction as part of a science curriculum, what is reprehensible is lying to students in order to control their behavior. While I congratulate you and youe wife on your apparently happy relationship, many people enjoy healthy sex lives before or outside of marriage and knowing how to do so safely in no way precludes anyone from maintaining virginity to marriage. Knowledge is rarely detrimental to anyone, lies however have no place in education.
This article is in today's Guardian, not by Thomps... (show quote)



If you insist on c***ting on your spouse, please do it somewhere no where near the children, not in the same house where they live, even if they are not home. Realize that the damage that you do to your relationship with your children will affect them in bad ways for years to come. One way that it will do so is make the children feel unloved, and not able to trust their parents. That of course makes them much more vulnerable to sexual predators. Thirty five years of working with boys who, as young teenagers, have been molested by men, has told me that unstable home life because one or the other parent is c***ting is often present in those boys who have been molested If you believe that extramarital sex is a good idea, DON'T HAVE CHILDREN. Then you can do what ever you damn well please and it will only hurt you and those you do it with, not innocent children.

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Jul 15, 2014 10:33:14   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is a great essay explaining how right wing propaganda that is patently false has replaced scientifically and medically based education to deliberately mislead and misinform students. And how they are harmed as a result.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/15/abstinence-sex-education-teaches-virgins-teens


It doesn't explain anything. It claims that one education course teaches false and misleading information, but it doesn't explain how those claims are false or misleading.

The essay doesn't explain how students are harmed by this disinformation.

What the essay claims is sex education should teach sex information for the sexual d*****t.

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Jul 15, 2014 14:58:39   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Caboose wrote:
Sounds like youre the one spreading the propaganda.


Of course. You will notice it is another left wing proggie outlet he uses for his propagandized indoctrination.

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Jul 15, 2014 15:14:15   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
From a doorknob?

DennisDee wrote:
Not having sex doesn't work? How do they get pregnant then? Watermelon seeds?

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Jul 16, 2014 05:26:49   #
rjoeholl
 
I wouldn't believe the Guardian if they said the sky is blue or water is wet.
Caboose wrote:
Sounds like youre the one spreading the propaganda.

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Jul 16, 2014 07:55:37   #
1OldGeezer
 
Kevyn wrote:
What a well thought out rebuttal to a well researched article, bravo!


But true and to the point! (Yes well thought out opinion piece).

1oldgeezer

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Jul 16, 2014 08:15:40   #
NanaSue57 Loc: Georgia
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is a great essay explaining how right wing propaganda that is patently false has replaced scientifically and medically based education to deliberately mislead and misinform students. And how they are harmed as a result.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/15/abstinence-sex-education-teaches-virgins-teens


I cannot grasp to what lengths liberals will go to make pro-life an pro-virginity a BAD thing. Encouraging teens to stay a virgin is a BAD thing? Since when?!
Encouraging women to SAVE their baby's life is a BAD thing?

What is WRONG with this world?!?!

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