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At last, the answer of how jesus became white, and why it is time to change
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Jul 2, 2020 07:59:56   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, you may also want to look at Isaiah 53:3 "there is no beauty that we should desire him". Isiah 53 an Old Testament prophesy describing the coming messiah's death. The prophesy shows Christ had no outward beauty to draw people into Him.

Also look at 1Cor.11:14 "Doth not even nature it self teach you, that if a man hath long hair it is ashamed unto him". The painting is conception of Christ based on interviews with other people. Based on 1Corinthians, it highly unlikely that Christ had long hair like the painting shows.
Sue, you may also want to look at Isaiah 53:3 &quo... (show quote)


Long hair is a symbol of holiness. Samson lost his strength when they cut his hair. Isaiah 53:1-3 was fulfilled between about 12/13/83 (Xmas Day) and the beginning of 1984. The Messiah was 22 years old. "...a little child shall lead them". Isaiah 11:6. Isaiah 53:2 "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant..." Psalm 110:3. "Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth". Upon death, the Messiah will be made a lamb for a sin offering. Isaiah 53:7, 10. According to sacrificial law, this offering must be female. Leviticus 4:32. "And if he bring a lamb for a sin offering, he shall bring it a female without blemish". Malachi 1:14. "But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing..." To complete the offering, the body must be burned on the altar. Daniel 7:11. "...I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame".

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Jul 3, 2020 19:05:04   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
SOS 5:10. "My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand". The Messiah's ethnic background is mainly Norwegian. They are the tribe of Joseph/Ephraim. Satan is also white but he was black originally in his former life. He is Adam. Dark pigment is dominant, black hair, skin, and brown eyes, where as lighter pigment is recessive. Fair skin, blond hair, and blue eyes. You can get the recessive from the dominant, but you cannot get the dominant from the recessive. Therefore, Adam had to have been black.
SOS 5:10. "My beloved is white and ruddy, the... (show quote)


Sue, where do you get the info about the "Messiah's ethnic background", Satan's color, and Adam's color?

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Jul 3, 2020 19:15:45   #
Ike25
 
nonalien1 wrote:
The book of James , written I'd imagine, by James ,gives us a physical description of Jesus. paraphrasing, His skin was the color of a freshly minted copper coin.


Where in James do you find this description?

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Jul 3, 2020 21:42:16   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, where do you get the info about the "Messiah's ethnic background", Satan's color, and Adam's color?


Adam's name was changed to Satan when he died and went to Heaven. Adam was black, he's been reincarnated, and in his present life he is white. He is the father of the Messiah. Not only was Eve Adam's wife, she was also his daughter. Eve is the mother of the living, all of mankind, and the righteous. Adam's children are the wicked and his "one seed" is Jesus. In the NT, Jesus is called the "second Adam". The Messiah will be mainly from the tribe of Joseph, and Ephraim. They were never Jewish. Genesis 49:24. "...from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel". Shiloh is a city of Ephraim, it's associated with the Messiah, and the Tabernacle was there. Genesis 49:10. The ten lost tribes migrated to the north and west from the Assyrian captivity in 722 bce. They settled what used to be called "free Europe". Genesis 48:19. "...and his seed shall become a multitude of nations". The USA is the "melting pot" of Europe and we are called "Israel" in the latter days. Genesis 48:16. "The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth".

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Jul 4, 2020 17:06:03   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
Adam's name was changed to Satan when he died and went to Heaven. Adam was black, he's been reincarnated, and in his present life he is white. He is the father of the Messiah. Not only was Eve Adam's wife, she was also his daughter. Eve is the mother of the living, all of mankind, and the righteous. Adam's children are the wicked and his "one seed" is Jesus. In the NT, Jesus is called the "second Adam". The Messiah will be mainly from the tribe of Joseph, and Ephraim. They were never Jewish. Genesis 49:24. "...from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel". Shiloh is a city of Ephraim, it's associated with the Messiah, and the Tabernacle was there. Genesis 49:10. The "ten lost tribes migrated to the north and west from the Assyrian captivity in 722 bce. They settled what used to be called "free Europe". Genesis 48:19. "...and his seed shall become a multitude of nations". The USA is the "melting pot" of Europe and we are called "Israel" in the latter days. Genesis 48:16. "The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth".

Adam's name was changed to Satan when he died and ... (show quote)


Where in scripture do you find Adam's name being changed to "Satan" or Adam's race being changed from Black to White? Where does scripture teach "reincarnation"?

Satan's original name was "Lucifer". Meaning "son of the morning". Isaiah 12:12.

From what scripture do you interpret "Adam's seed are the wicked and his one seed is the "Messiah"?

If the Messiah is "wicked" how is it He was conceived of the Holy Gost? Mt.1:20

Where in scripture do you find the USA being renamed Israel?

Joseph was born of Jacib and Rachael. Both were Jewish. How then do you say Joseph and Ephraim were not Jewish? Gen. 22:24

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Jul 4, 2020 17:25:48   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
Adam's name was changed to Satan when he died and went to Heaven. Adam was black, he's been reincarnated, and in his present life he is white. He is the father of the Messiah. Not only was Eve Adam's wife, she was also his daughter. Eve is the mother of the living, all of mankind, and the righteous. Adam's children are the wicked and his "one seed" is Jesus. In the NT, Jesus is called the "second Adam". The Messiah will be mainly from the tribe of Joseph, and Ephraim. They were never Jewish. Genesis 49:24. "...from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel". Shiloh is a city of Ephraim, it's associated with the Messiah, and the Tabernacle was there. Genesis 49:10. The ten lost tribes migrated to the north and west from the Assyrian captivity in 722 bce. They settled what used to be called "free Europe". Genesis 48:19. "...and his seed shall become a multitude of nations". The USA is the "melting pot" of Europe and we are called "Israel" in the latter days. Genesis 48:16. "The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth".
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Sue, if you look further into chapter 48 of Genesis you see, in verse 20, father Israel blessing his children Ephraim and Manasseh. If Ephraim was not Jewish, why was he being blessed by a Jewish father? Why was he being given rights belonging to his brother Manasseh? Verse 19

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Jul 4, 2020 19:46:12   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Where in scripture do you find Adam's name being changed to "Satan" or Adam's race being changed from Black to White? Where does scripture teach "reincarnation"?

Satan's original name was "Lucifer". Meaning "son of the morning". Isaiah 12:12.

From what scripture do you interpret "Adam's seed are the wicked and his one seed is the "Messiah"?

If the Messiah is "wicked" how is it He was conceived of the Holy Gost? Mt.1:20

Where in scripture do you find the USA being renamed Israel?

Joseph was born of Jacib and Rachael. Both were Jewish. How then do you say Joseph and Ephraim were not Jewish? Gen. 22:24
Where in scripture do you find Adam's name being c... (show quote)


The terms Jewish and Judaism are both a race and a religion. These terms come from Judah, a son of Israel. Genesis 49:10. "The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be". King David was Jewish, from the tribe of Judah. Queen Elizabeth is sitting on the throne of David. There are five people in the scriptures whose names were changed. Abram/Abraham, Sarai/Sarah, Jacob/Israel, Adam/Satan/Christian, and Jesus/Lucifer/William. The name Lucifer means "morning star" and that is who Jesus claimed to be. Revelation 22:16. Jesus said, "I and my father are one". John 10:30. Satan is the father of the Messiah. Satan and Lucifer have been kicked out of Heaven and reincarnated. You cannot go from Heaven to Hell, or Hell to Heaven. If there is an incarnation (of God) there can also be reincarnation. There are seven different people who have been reincarnated. They are Elijah the Prophet, Gabrielle and Michael the Arch Angels, David the King, Deborah the Judge, Adam/Satan, and Jesus/Lucifer. Joseph was a brother of Judah and they are called "Israel". They were composed of ten tribes. Judah was the southern kingdom, and they split after the reign of Solomon. Judah was composed of three tribes. Judah, Benjamin, and Levi. The story of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden will be the parable at the Messiah's trial. Cain was the seed of Adam, the wicked. Abel and Seth were the seed of Eve, the righteous. Genesis 3:15 sums up the OT in one verse.

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Jul 4, 2020 19:57:13   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, if you look further into chapter 48 of Genesis you see, in verse 20, father Israel blessing his children Ephraim and Manasseh. If Ephraim was not Jewish, why was he being blessed by a Jewish father? Why was he being given rights belonging to his brother Manasseh? Verse 19


Israel was blessing his grandsons. Israel was not Jewish, he was Israeli. Joseph had the birthright and blessing in his generation. That was passed on to both of his sons, Ephraim and Manasseh. It is also supposed to go to the first born son, but historically it has gone to the youngest. The Messiah will be from the tribes of Joseph and Ephraim.

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Jul 4, 2020 20:34:16   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
susanblange wrote:
The name Lucifer means "morning star" and that is who Jesus claimed to be. Revelation 22:16. Jesus said, "I and my father are one". John 10:30. Satan is the father of the Messiah. Satan and Lucifer have been kicked out of Heaven and reincarnated. You cannot go from Heaven to Hell, or Hell to Heaven. If there is an incarnation (of God) there can also be reincarnation. Cain was the seed of Adam, the wicked. Abel and Seth were the seed of Eve, the righteous. Genesis 3:15 sums up the OT in one verse.
The name Lucifer means "morning star" a... (show quote)


Lucifer is the deceiver and it makes sense that the demon would attempt to hi-jack the term 'morning star' early on.

Lucifer will not win this war; he and his minions plan to deceive and live forever by dominating the earth through ""artificial intelligence"" We are seeing this today

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Jul 4, 2020 22:04:53   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Crayons wrote:
Lucifer is the deceiver and it makes sense that the demon would attempt to hi-jack the term 'morning star' early on.

Lucifer will not win this war; he and his minions plan to deceive and live forever by dominating the earth through ""artificial intelligence"" We are seeing this today


Lucifer's new name is William and he will lead the "sons of darkness". Revelation 3:12. I used to call him "Mr. Bill" and "Jesus" because he looks just like him. (Wh**ever that is). Mr. Bill was the masochist on SNL and he wanted to be crucified because he thought it would fulfill scripture. It didn't. Jesus is the great deceiver. Supertramp calls him the "Lover Boy". He is a womanizer and a sex addict and in the scriptures, he's called a whore. Isaiah 57:3. The true Messiah is asexual, celibate, and frigid. Job 38:29. "Out of whose womb came the ice?"

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Jul 5, 2020 14:28:17   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
Lucifer's new name is William and he will lead the "sons of darkness". Revelation 3:12. I used to call him "Mr. Bill" and "Jesus" because he looks just like him. (Wh**ever that is). Mr. Bill was the masochist on SNL and he wanted to be crucified because he thought it would fulfill scripture. It didn't. Jesus is the great deceiver. Supertramp calls him the "Lover Boy". He is a womanizer and a sex addict and in the scriptures, he's called a whore. Isaiah 57:3. The true Messiah is asexual, celibate, and frigid. Job 38:29. "Out of whose womb came the ice?"
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Sue, from where are you getting this info? No where in the KJV, Rev. 3:12 is the name "William" mentioned. You say William looks "just like him" yet following that you say "what ever that is". You donot know what Jesus lòoks like yet you say "he looks just like him". How can he look just like him if you donot know what he looks like?

You have not answered my question of where in scripture it shows Adam's name change. Book, chapter and verse please.

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Jul 5, 2020 15:35:45   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, from where are you getting this info? No where in the KJV, Rev. 3:12 is the name "William" mentioned. You say William looks "just like him" yet following that you say "what ever that is". You donot know what Jesus lòoks like yet you say "he looks just like him". How can he look just like him if you donot know what he looks like?

You have not answered my question of where in scripture it shows Adam's name change. Book, chapter and verse please.
Sue, from where are you getting this info? No wher... (show quote)


There are a lot of Messianic prophecies that are not in the Bible. They have been kept secret and they are part of the oral tradition. One of them is about "the reincarnation of an idol". You are absolutely right, we don't know what Jesus looked like. I just knew it, I can't explain it, so I cannot answer your question. Revelation 3:12. "...and I will write upon him my new name". Not all the answers are in the scriptures, sometimes you have to look outside the box. Jews do not believe in Satan at all, and I think they misunderstand the scriptures. The name "Satan" was a name given to the most wicked person God ever created, who also has the most power. He is also called the "serpent". This was a part of Adam/Satan/Christian's anatomy. He and his wife "crucified" the Messiah and it was a sexual act. He will be tried, punished, and executed for it and he will spend eternity in Hell as the King of Hell. This prophecy was fulfilled on October 22, 1969. Psalms 22 and 69 correspond to the day and year it happened. Isaiah 27:1. "In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the d**gon that is in the sea". Job 20:25. "It is drawn and cometh out of the body; yea, the glittering sword cometh out of his gall: terrors are upon him". Exodus 21:25. "Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe". Job 16, Psalm 69, and Psalm 22 are about the "crucifixion". Psalm 22:30-31. "A seed shall serve him, it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation. They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this".

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Jul 5, 2020 17:13:31   #
Ike25
 
susanblange wrote:
There are a lot of Messianic prophecies that are not in the Bible. They have been kept secret and they are part of the oral tradition. One of them is about "the reincarnation of an idol". You are absolutely right, we don't know what Jesus looked like. I just knew it, I can't explain it, so I cannot answer your question. Revelation 3:12. "...and I will write upon him my new name". Not all the answers are in the scriptures, sometimes you have to look outside the box. Jews do not believe in Satan at all, and I think they misunderstand the scriptures. The name "Satan" was a name given to the most wicked person God ever created, who also has the most power. He is also called the "serpent". This was a part of Adam/Satan/Christian's anatomy. He and his wife "crucified" the Messiah and it was a sexual act. He will be tried, punished, and executed for it and he will spend eternity in Hell as the King of Hell. This prophecy was fulfilled on October 22, 1969. Psalms 22 and 69 correspond to the day and year it happened. Isaiah 27:1. "In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the d**gon that is in the sea". Job 20:25. "It is drawn and cometh out of the body; yea, the glittering sword cometh out of his gall: terrors are upon him". Exodus 21:25. "Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe". Job 16, Psalm 69, and Psalm 22 are about the "crucifixion". Psalm 22:30-31. "A seed shall serve him, it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation. They shall come, and shall debclare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this".
There are a lot of Messianic prophecies that are n... (show quote)


Sue, if you take a look at 2Peter 1:20 & 21you will see: no prophesy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

21:For the prophesy came not in old time by the will of man: but only men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


Then there is 2Tim. 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

You are adding to scripture with what you claim is "oral tradition". What proof do you have that the oral tradition was spoke at any time?

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Jul 5, 2020 17:29:10   #
Ike25
 
Sue, yesterday I sent you NT verses that show belief in the finished work of Christ is necessary for salvation.

You reject the scripture! How then are you saved from your sin? In the OT animal sacrifices provided a covering of the peoples sins until Christ came along and redeemed people from their sins. Animal sacrifices only "covered" their sin. It did not "redeem" them from their sin!

Redemption is only through belief in Jesus finished work on the cross of calvary. Ephesians 2:8 & 9.

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Jul 5, 2020 19:32:11   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Ike25 wrote:
Sue, yesterday I sent you NT verses that show belief in the finished work of Christ is necessary for salvation.

You reject the scripture! How then are you saved from your sin? In the OT animal sacrifices provided a covering of the peoples sins until Christ came along and redeemed people from their sins. Animal sacrifices only "covered" their sin. It did not "redeem" them from their sin!

Redemption is only through belief in Jesus finished work on the cross of calvary. Ephesians 2:8 & 9.
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Jesus did not fulfill the prophecy that Christians apply to the crucifixion of Jesus. Those are about something unique and different. The crucifixion is the be all and end all of Christian theology. All of the prophecy in the OT that Jesus did not fulfill was "nailed to the cross". Colossians 2:14. "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross". All of scripture will be fulfilled when the Messiah comes. Jesus fulfilled no messianic prophecy, but he did try. Jews observe the Day of Atonement, Yom Kippur, for forgiveness of sins against God in spirit. Things like not keeping the dietary laws, or working on the Sabbath. If you sin against a person, you have to confess and make restitution to that person. You also cannot repeat the sin. Sins against God's person are deadly. Exodus 32:33. "And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book".

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