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Jun 19, 2020 00:08:45   #
ImLogicallyRight
 
You can find thousands of nice DACA people. You can do that with those people climbing our walls tonight. But they are here illegally. They should not benefit with the right to live here because of their parents illegal acts. Don't tell be about sending them to a country that they don't even remember. They didn't know America when they came here illegally. Go home. And home is where they were born.

There parents should not be rewarded with their kids getting to stay in America because they got away with hiding them for years. They broke the law and you want to reward their kids with citizenship. And the kids knew it when they turned 18 and then were breaking the law themselves.

I can be sympathetic. Let Trump make a correct Executive Order dismissing what obama had no right to do. Then as each individual's current term of two years is up, they have to go. If they voluntarily deport themselves, they can earn the right to return. If they don't, they are permanently barred forever. DNA. If these kids are so damn good, their home country needs them. Go back and give something to your home country, especially teachers, Doctors, etc. Then after a set moratorium, maybe five years, they can apply for admission to the United States through regular channels. They could even be fast tracked at that time and return as honest future citizens. And they would need to have no criminal records and be able to support them selves when they return.

Fair to them and fair to America. But to reward them with staying is to only encourage more i******s who figure out they only have to hang around until the next amnesty. That is pure B. S. Every other country has i*********n l*ws. We should also, and live up to them.

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Jun 19, 2020 00:08:55   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Simple Sam wrote:
This has NOTHING to do with individual people. Simple solution for your son and his fiancé, marriage. Otherwise, she is an ILLEGAL and needs to pack her rags and leave.


She fleed Phillipines because her father sexually abused her as a little child ... If you you will send her back to that monster than you and Suci have another thing coming! And that's not a threat , it's a fact,Sam!

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Jun 19, 2020 00:12:14   #
Sicilianthing
 
proud republican wrote:
My son's fiance is DACA!! And if you think you will come after her,you better be prepared to figh!! Come and get me,Sici !! She us NOT going anywhere !!!!! Don't underestimate Russian blood in me !!!


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You are c*********d already then too bad... I’m sorry for your situation but then you can only hope and pray she’s one of the few who might get to stay because she has no Criminal Record yet.

Where is she from ? What Crap hole ?
What nationality ?

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Jun 19, 2020 00:13:21   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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You’re back a couple Books Tucker... NO deal on Citizenship path crap or any Amnesty...

The Terms for Trump were Non Negotiable going in and he knew it, they all knew it...
get the job done, overturn all the unconstitutional crap of the administrations before him or else !

The Terms are now placed on the Alter along with Trumps re e******n... YOu get the point.

He’s been put on notice all of them have and guys like me are just starting to turn up the heat.

DACA is not here to stay
The invaders are leaving period.
There is no further discussion and SCOTUS is next on the Attack list.

Trump know what he needs to do and it’s time he breaks rank with his t*****r advisors and gets to work.
>>> br br You’re back a couple Books Tuc... (show quote)


I agree DACA is not here to stay. Much like s***ery. People have to come here legally from now on but it is unlikely we can ever send those who grew up here and never knew their illegal status, nor the language of their home country, back to such places. We already have an investment in many. Some have used that opportunity to their and our advantage. Some have squandered the opportunity. There is no one size fits all rules and the stereotype that you present of i******s are just that, stereotypes. Some are accurate and some aren't. Congress must get off their ass and address this, but it isn't likely to be resolved soon given the animosity between the two parties and the civil unrest currently having a hold on the sheeple. Trump's hands are tied. Regardless of who is elected President, expect more of the same. It's an imperfect world we live in and it always will be.

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Jun 19, 2020 00:15:08   #
Sicilianthing
 
Simple Sam wrote:
Trump put too much trust in people! Look at the people he trusted, hired who turned around and betrayed him. I hope for the sake of our nation, he learned his lesson.


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So do I but now I see Red F**gs and Warning Signs going off everywhere around that admin and his abilities to vet and pick the right people.

Imagine the betrayal with Kushner handling C***d with Pence and picking g*******t NWO pricks to Brix and the other...

Imagine betrayal as Kushner writes and handles all the new immigration policies for Trump - Bad Idea as Kushner serves Modern Z*****m and his Corporate Masters $ coffers...

We’ve told Trump he can’t play all sides and it’s not going to work.

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Jun 19, 2020 00:16:03   #
Sicilianthing
 
Simple Sam wrote:
This has NOTHING to do with individual people. Simple solution for your son and his fiancé, marriage. Otherwise, she is an ILLEGAL and needs to pack her rags and leave.


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That’s right and take her Chain Migration and Anchor Babies with her and get off my land !

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Jun 19, 2020 00:20:37   #
Sicilianthing
 
ImLogicallyRight wrote:
You can find thousands of nice DACA people. You can do that with those people climbing our walls tonight. But they are here illegally. They should not benefit with the right to live here because of their parents illegal acts. Don't tell be about sending them to a country that they don't even remember. They didn't know America when they came here illegally. Go home. And home is where they were born.

There parents should not be rewarded with their kids getting to stay in America because they got away with hiding them for years. They broke the law and you want to reward their kids with citizenship. And the kids knew it when they turned 18 and then were breaking the law themselves.

I can be sympathetic. Let Trump make a correct Executive Order dismissing what obama had no right to do. Then as each individual's current term of two years is up, they have to go. If they voluntarily deport themselves, they can earn the right to return. If they don't, they are permanently barred forever. DNA. If these kids are so damn good, their home country needs them. Go back and give something to your home country, especially teachers, Doctors, etc. Then after a set moratorium, maybe five years, they can apply for admission to the United States through regular channels. They could even be fast tracked at that time and return as honest future citizens. And they would need to have no criminal records and be able to support them selves when they return.

Fair to them and fair to America. But to reward them with staying is to only encourage more i******s who figure out they only have to hang around until the next amnesty. That is pure B. S. Every other country has i*********n l*ws. We should also, and live up to them.
You can find thousands of nice DACA people. You c... (show quote)


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We are being invaded by thousands every night, never ending and Trump knows it... BP can’t stop them and Trump fails to declare a Real National Emergency to lock down the Judges, SCOTUS and do what he has to do, arrest them all for treason, aiding n abetting the invaders.

Trump needs to take charge of the Military and put them on permanent Base Camp rotations all along the Mexican Disaster scumbags border, there is NO other WAy !

Trump has failed !

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Jun 19, 2020 00:21:27   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
ImLogicallyRight wrote:
You can find thousands of nice DACA people. You can do that with those people climbing our walls tonight. But they are here illegally. They should not benefit with the right to live here because of their parents illegal acts. Don't tell be about sending them to a country that they don't even remember. They didn't know America when they came here illegally. Go home. And home is where they were born.

There parents should not be rewarded with their kids getting to stay in America because they got away with hiding them for years. They broke the law and you want to reward their kids with citizenship. And the kids knew it when they turned 18 and then were breaking the law themselves.

I can be sympathetic. Let Trump make a correct Executive Order dismissing what obama had no right to do. Then as each individual's current term of two years is up, they have to go. If they voluntarily deport themselves, they can earn the right to return. If they don't, they are permanently barred forever. DNA. If these kids are so damn good, their home country needs them. Go back and give something to your home country, especially teachers, Doctors, etc. Then after a set moratorium, maybe five years, they can apply for admission to the United States through regular channels. They could even be fast tracked at that time and return as honest future citizens. And they would need to have no criminal records and be able to support them selves when they return.

Fair to them and fair to America. But to reward them with staying is to only encourage more i******s who figure out they only have to hang around until the next amnesty. That is pure B. S. Every other country has i*********n l*ws. We should also, and live up to them.
You can find thousands of nice DACA people. You c... (show quote)


I agree with much of what you say. I particularly think the parents need to be held accountable. If that means deporting them, so be it. If their children want to join then to return to the country they were originally from, fine. If the Children want to stay here, take the path toward citizenship, but don't expect amnesty for the parents who brought you here. Life is full of trade-offs and tough decisions. You can't always get what you want. Suck it up!

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Jun 19, 2020 00:21:34   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
proud republican wrote:
She fleed Phillipines because her father sexually abused her as a little child ... If you you will send her back to that monster than you and Suci have another thing coming! And that's not a threat , it's a fact,Sam!


Her case should be adjudicated with immigration. Her, and your, personal problems does not change my mind. Laws are made for the safety and security of all US citizens. DACA was not a legal action and needs to be rescinded and all I******S need to be deported immediately.

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Jun 19, 2020 00:21:59   #
Sicilianthing
 
proud republican wrote:
She fleed Phillipines because her father sexually abused her as a little child ... If you you will send her back to that monster than you and Suci have another thing coming! And that's not a threat , it's a fact,Sam!


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Too bad, not our problem and never was...
same stance I have about every other Refugee, illegal, invader, scumbag, t***splants that committed crimes and more...

I can go on and on and on....

Too little
Too late
Too bad
Wrong Era PR

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Jun 19, 2020 00:23:59   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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We are being invaded by thousands every night, never ending and Trump knows it... BP can’t stop them and Trump fails to declare a Real National Emergency to lock down the Judges, SCOTUS and do what he has to do, arrest them all for treason, aiding n abetting the invaders.

Trump needs to take charge of the Military and put them on permanent Base Camp rotations all along the Mexican Disaster scumbags border, there is NO other WAy !

Trump has failed !


We've all failed because we have elected people who continue to let this happen.

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Jun 19, 2020 00:24:21   #
Sicilianthing
 
dtucker300 wrote:
I agree DACA is not here to stay. Much like s***ery. People have to come here legally from now on but it is unlikely we can ever send those who grew up here and never knew their illegal status, nor the language of their home country, back to such places. We already have an investment in many. Some have used that opportunity to their and our advantage. Some have squandered the opportunity. There is no one size fits all rules and the stereotype that you present of i******s are just that, stereotypes. Some are accurate and some aren't. Congress must get off their ass and address this, but it isn't likely to be resolved soon given the animosity between the two parties and the civil unrest currently having a hold on the sheeple. Trump's hands are tied. Regardless of who is elected President, expect more of the same. It's an imperfect world we live in and it always will be.
I agree DACA is not here to stay. Much like s***e... (show quote)


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So what do you propose to do about Congress’ failure to resolve this mess Tucker ?
Kick the can down the road again or another Amnesty crap ?

Are you fricken kidding me ?

You seriously think they’re going to fix this ?

wow !

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Jun 19, 2020 00:25:10   #
debeda
 
dtucker300 wrote:
We've all failed because we have elected people who continue to let this happen.


And that is the bottom line

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Jun 19, 2020 00:25:55   #
Sicilianthing
 
dtucker300 wrote:
We've all failed because we have elected people who continue to let this happen.


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You have failed, we have failed because we have forgotten to use American M*****as to enforce the will of the people.

So what will you do with Lock n load when the time comes ?

Who is your target for destroying our peace time and turning over our Republic to non assimilating masses ?

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Jun 19, 2020 00:26:24   #
Sicilianthing
 
debeda wrote:
And that is the bottom line


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So you gave up already right ?

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