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Jul 13, 2014 11:05:07   #
Patty
 
Is Iran a Warmonger?
◾Iran has not started a war for at least 188 years (in the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq was the initial aggressor)
◾The most violent Muslims are Sunnis. America backs the Sunnis in their fight against the Shias. Iran is a Shia country, and 89% of Iranian people are Shia
◾Iran is fighting the worst terrorists on the planet: ISIS, the brutal murderers who have taken over large swaths of Iraq and Syria (admittedly, Iran backs Hamas and Hezbollah, which are Shia terrorist groups)
◾The CIA admits that the U.S. o*******w the moderate, suit-and-tie-wearing, Democratically-elected prime minister of Iran in 1953. He was o*******wn because he had nationalized Iran’s oil, which had previously been controlled by BP and other Western oil companies. As part of that action, the CIA admits that it hired Iranians to pose as C*******ts and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its prime minister
◾If the U.S. hadn’t o*******wn the moderate Iranian government, the fundamentalist Mullahs would have never taken over. (Moreover, the U.S. has had a large hand in strengthening radical Islam in the Middle East by supporting radicals to fight the Soviets and others)
◾While Iran has some crazies, claims by those who want to attack Iran have largely been debunked (and the words of Iran’s leaders have sometimes been seriously twisted in t***slation)

Isn’t Iran On the Verge of Having the Bomb?
◾The U.S. has been claiming for more than 30 years that Iran was on the verge of nuclear capability
◾Contrary to widespread claims, there is NO EVIDENCE that Iran is building a nuclear weapon. Even Israel Israel admits that Iran has not decided to build a nuclear bomb. And the former Israeli Nuke chief says that Iran is 10 years away from having a nuclear bomb
◾The top American defense officials say that – despite its heated rhetoric – Iran is a “rational actor”
◾Experts say that Iran poses very little threat to the West or Israel . Top American and Israeli military and intelligence officials say that – even if Iran did build a nuclear bomb – it would not be that dangerous, because Israel and America have so many more nukes. And see this
◾Conversely, American military and intelligence chiefs say that attacking Iran would only speed up its development of nuclear weapons, empower its hardliners, and undermine the chance for democratic reform

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Jul 13, 2014 11:28:23   #
Blacksheep
 
Patty wrote:
Is Iran a Warmonger?
◾Iran has not started a war for at least 188 years (in the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq was the initial aggressor)
◾The most violent Muslims are Sunnis. America backs the Sunnis in their fight against the Shias. Iran is a Shia country, and 89% of Iranian people are Shia
◾Iran is fighting the worst terrorists on the planet: ISIS, the brutal murderers who have taken over large swaths of Iraq and Syria (admittedly, Iran backs Hamas and Hezbollah, which are Shia terrorist groups)
◾The CIA admits that the U.S. o*******w the moderate, suit-and-tie-wearing, Democratically-elected prime minister of Iran in 1953. He was o*******wn because he had nationalized Iran’s oil, which had previously been controlled by BP and other Western oil companies. As part of that action, the CIA admits that it hired Iranians to pose as C*******ts and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its prime minister
◾If the U.S. hadn’t o*******wn the moderate Iranian government, the fundamentalist Mullahs would have never taken over. (Moreover, the U.S. has had a large hand in strengthening radical Islam in the Middle East by supporting radicals to fight the Soviets and others)
◾While Iran has some crazies, claims by those who want to attack Iran have largely been debunked (and the words of Iran’s leaders have sometimes been seriously twisted in t***slation)

Isn’t Iran On the Verge of Having the Bomb?
◾The U.S. has been claiming for more than 30 years that Iran was on the verge of nuclear capability
◾Contrary to widespread claims, there is NO EVIDENCE that Iran is building a nuclear weapon. Even Israel Israel admits that Iran has not decided to build a nuclear bomb. And the former Israeli Nuke chief says that Iran is 10 years away from having a nuclear bomb
◾The top American defense officials say that – despite its heated rhetoric – Iran is a “rational actor”
◾Experts say that Iran poses very little threat to the West or Israel . Top American and Israeli military and intelligence officials say that – even if Iran did build a nuclear bomb – it would not be that dangerous, because Israel and America have so many more nukes. And see this
◾Conversely, American military and intelligence chiefs say that attacking Iran would only speed up its development of nuclear weapons, empower its hardliners, and undermine the chance for democratic reform
Is Iran a Warmonger? br ◾Iran has not st... (show quote)

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As usual, not one single link to back up a massive heap of BS.

Iran isn't a warmonger? Attacking our embassy was an act of war. Holding our people prisoner for 400 days was 400 acts of war. Threatening to destroy Israel is an act of war. "The widely held belief that Iran opposes the Sunni terror group Islamic State of Syria and Iraq (ISIS) is tenuous at best, with recent reports suggesting the organization may well have been spawned by Tehran. As the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs’ Pinhas Inbari recently pointed out, “The more time passes, the more this notion of a link between ISIS, Syrian and Iranian intelligence has become fixed in the minds of leading Arab analysts.” http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Irans-path-to-the-bomb-362191.

Iranwatch http://www.iranwatch.org/our-publications/articles-reports/irans-nuclear-timetable says that Iran now has enough material to produce 8 atomic bombs and the Jerusalem Post, quoted above, says that Iran is still actively developing atomic weapons.

You make this stuff up, Patty. There's hardly a word of t***h in all of it. The only real t***h here is that you want to see Israel destroyed.

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Jul 13, 2014 11:50:48   #
Patty
 
Oh good Lord. you are worthless.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Persian_War_%281826%E2%80%9328%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/the-u-s-is-supporting-the-most-violent-muslim-terrorists-in-order-to-wage-war-for-oil.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28125687
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/10/no-one-is-buying-iranian-terror-allegations.html
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2011/1108/Imminent-Iran-nuclear-threat-A-timeline-of-warnings-since-1979/Earliest-warnings-1979-84
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/21/experts-say-iraq-attack-is-irrational-yet-hawks-are-winning-the-debate.html

and you post something from Jpost (Jerusalem Post) Sure They would have no reason to push that agenda. Bottomline is Iran is a member of the IAEA and is very closely monitored.
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Jul 13, 2014 12:02:53   #
dan miller Loc: U.S.A./Michigan
 
What are you smoke? Some bad weed from the '60s. Get it though your pea size brain it is the SHIAS that are the most dangerous of ALL MUSILMS.they are both "CHURCH & STATE" in their govering, some thing that ACLU DON'T WANT HERE. Rember this well when the SUNNI/DHIAS are not k*****g each other in their long bloody civils wars.they come after the CHRISTIANS,JEWS,HINDUS,OTHER FAITHS AND NON BELIVERS .I know them well I was in Beiut in '82,83,84. before the bombing of the Marines, during the daily gun battles with them then finally pulling out with 2,500 civilans caught in cross fire of rival partie.So do not give me some bull s**t history lesseon of some wrong. tht we did in the '50&60s Grew up live in the now and see how Pbaama has put us in very deadly danger.

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Jul 13, 2014 12:08:04   #
Patty
 
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/sunni-muslim-extremists-committed-70-terrorist-murders-2011
Take it up with the National Counterterrorism Center, its their research

"Sunni extremists accounted for the greatest number of terrorist attacks and fatalities for the third consecutive year. More than 5,700 incidents were attributed to Sunni extremists, accounting for nearly 56 percent of all attacks and about 70 percent of all fatalities. Among this perpetrator group, al-Qa‘ida (AQ) and its affiliates were responsible for at least 688 attacks that resulted in almost 2,000 deaths, while the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan conducted over 800 attacks that resulted in nearly 1,900 deaths. Secular, political, and anarchist groups were the next largest category of perpetrators, conducting 2,283 attacks with 1,926 fatalities, a drop of 5 percent and 9 percent, respectively, from 2010."
dan miller wrote:
What are you smoke? Some bad weed from the '60s. Get it though your pea size brain it is the SHIAS that are the most dangerous of ALL MUSILMS.they are both "CHURCH & STATE" in their govering, some thing that ACLU DON'T WANT HERE. Rember this well when the SUNNI/DHIAS are not k*****g each other in their long bloody civils wars.they come after the CHRISTIANS,JEWS,HINDUS,OTHER FAITHS AND NON BELIVERS .I know them well I was in Beiut in '82,83,84. before the bombing of the Marines, during the daily gun battles with them then finally pulling out with 2,500 civilans caught in cross fire of rival partie.So do not give me some bull s**t history lesseon of some wrong. tht we did in the '50&60s Grew up live in the now and see how Pbaama has put us in very deadly danger.
What are you smoke? Some bad weed from the '60s. G... (show quote)

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Jul 13, 2014 12:08:33   #
Blacksheep
 



:lol: :lol: :lol: You offer crap articles taken from CNN and the New York Treason? Liberal media? The DAILY BEAST, that Liberal rag? And then whine and snivel when I call you a Liberal? I don't really think you are all that liberal but you sure don't care where you dredge out the cow crap if it helps attack Israel, do you?

Wow.....
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Jul 13, 2014 12:10:23   #
Patty
 
Says the guy who credits Jerusalem Post with his "facts" to prove Iran has nukes.
Bawawahahaaaaaaa!!! That's hilarious. Thanks.
Pssst guess what. There wasn't one link that you accused me of using that I posted. What dark orifice did you pull those sites out of? Probably off your "favorites" list
B****sheep wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: You offer crap articles taken from CNN and the New York Treason? Liberal media? The DAILY BEAST, that Liberal rag? And then whine and snivel when I call you a Liberal? I don't really think you are all that liberal but you sure don't care where you dredge out the cow crap if it helps attack Israel, do you?

Wow.....
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Jul 13, 2014 12:40:17   #
Blacksheep
 
Patty wrote:
Says the guy who credits Jerusalem Post with his "facts" to prove Iran has nukes.
Bawawahahaaaaaaa!!! That's hilarious. Thanks.
Pssst guess what. There wasn't one link that you accused me of using that I posted. What dark orifice did you pull those sites out of? Probably off your "favorites" list

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Really? You don't read your own garbage? You posted from the Daily Beast, it's right there in front of both of us, and you posted from "Washingtons blog" which attributed the articles to CNN and the New York Times.

God, you are so STUPID. It boggles. What you did was a fast Google search for crap that you thought would back you up, without ever reading any of it, you have no idea what's in it or their sources, and then you blurt Bawawahahaaaaaaa? Well, hey, guess what? Bawawahahaaaaaaa! Moron.
By the way, your hatred of Jews is showing.

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Jul 13, 2014 12:51:23   #
Patty
 
Washingtonblog is not Daily Beast in fact they are extreme opposites. They listed many sources. You may take your pick.
B****sheep I prayed that the Lord not allow my heart to grow hard towards you and what I got was that it is done thru praying for you when you are on my mind.
If you are feeling a sense of conviction since you started this "tantrum" perhaps the best way for your pain to stop is to seek the Lord and embrace the gifts he has freely given to you.
I promise to continue praying for you while you go through this battle.
B****sheep wrote:
Really? You don't read your own garbage? You posted from the Daily Beast, it's right there in front of both of us, and you posted from "Washingtons blog" which attributed the articles to CNN and the New York Times.

God, you are so STUPID. It boggles. What you did was a fast Google search for crap that you thought would back you up, without ever reading any of it, you have no idea what's in it or their sources, and then you blurt Bawawahahaaaaaaa? Well, hey, guess what? Bawawahahaaaaaaa! Moron.
By the way, your hatred of Jews is showing.
Really? You don't read your own garbage? You poste... (show quote)

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Jul 13, 2014 13:03:49   #
Blacksheep
 
Patty wrote:
Washingtonblog is not Daily Beast in fact they are extreme opposites. They listed many sources. You may take your pick.
B****sheep I prayed that the Lord not allow my heart to grow hard towards you and what I got was that it is done thru praying for you when you are on my mind.
If you are feeling a sense of conviction since you started this "tantrum" perhaps the best way for your pain to stop is to seek the Lord and embrace the gifts he has freely given to you.
I promise to continue praying for you while you go through this battle.
Washingtonblog is not Daily Beast in fact they are... (show quote)


THIS LINK, YOU I***T. YOU POSTED THIS LINK IN THAT BUNCH, IT'S THE BOTTOM ONE IN THE LIST: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/21/experts-say-iraq-attack-is-irrational-ye...
It's THE DAILY BEAST. You posted it. How bloody stupid are you?

All that religious crap you keep spouting is an insult to Christianity. You ever read "Elmer Gantry"? You should, you're the female version, you Jew h**er. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Jul 13, 2014 13:10:18   #
Patty
 
There are 64 link sources used in the article. Like I said Take your pick. You do understand that I sometimes use stats off of the FBI website but that I am not an FBI agent? Right?
B****sheep wrote:
THIS LINK, YOU I***T. YOU POSTED THIS LINK IN THAT BUNCH, IT'S THE BOTTOM ONE IN THE LIST: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/21/experts-say-iraq-attack-is-irrational-ye...
It's THE DAILY BEAST. You posted it. How bloody stupid are you?

All that religious crap you keep spouting is an insult to Christianity. You ever read "Elmer Gantry"? You should, you're the female version, you Jew h**er. :roll: :roll: :roll:


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Jul 13, 2014 13:16:12   #
Blacksheep
 
Patty wrote:
There are 64 link sources used in the article. Like I said Take your pick. You do understand that I sometimes use stats off of the FBI website but that I am not an FBI agent? Right?

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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Jul 13, 2014 13:23:42   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
Patty wrote:
Washingtonblog is not Daily Beast in fact they are extreme opposites. They listed many sources. You may take your pick.
B****sheep I prayed that the Lord not allow my heart to grow hard towards you and what I got was that it is done thru praying for you when you are on my mind.
If you are feeling a sense of conviction since you started this "tantrum" perhaps the best way for your pain to stop is to seek the Lord and embrace the gifts he has freely given to you.
I promise to continue praying for you while you go through this battle.
Washingtonblog is not Daily Beast in fact they are... (show quote)


I don't think your anti Isreal rather anti us espionage. We must admit that we have caused much of our own problems in the middle east and must change how we deal with it in the future.

With that said much of today's problems can still be linked to many of the arbitrary country lines that were drawn up by the British after WWI

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Jul 13, 2014 13:53:29   #
Patty
 
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
I don't think your anti Isreal rather anti us espionage. We must admit that we have caused much of our own problems in the middle east and must change how we deal with it in the future.

With that said much of today's problems can still be linked to many of the arbitrary country lines that were drawn up by the British after WWI


:thumbup: :thumbup: Yep the hegemonists changes but the goal doesn't.

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Jul 13, 2014 18:21:43   #
Blacksheep
 
Patty wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: Yep the hegemonists changes but the goal doesn't.


Oooh. Agreement from Con Lib. Well, what more could you want? God bless.

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