ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

"Never let a crisis go to waste"

On May 27, Vox.com posted an article entitled "V****g by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why don’t more states use it?

Earlier this week, Sen. Ron Wyden and Rep Earl Blumenauer, both Democrats from Oregon, introduced a bill that would expand their state’s v**e-by-mail system to the entire country.

I have read posts from several here on OPP expressing the view that there is virtually "no evidence of proven v***r f***d", and that any attempt to curtail "mail in v****g" is really a r****t attempt to suppress minority v****g.

Let's take a look at the issue that there is virtually "no evidence of proven v***r f***d".

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-v**erfraudcases.pdf
The campaign also shared a Heritage Foundation document of over 1,000 proven cases of v**e f***d.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3902690/Questions-v**er-fraud-man-finds-83-b****ts-shipped-single-address-apartment-complex.html
Questions of v***r f***d after man finds 83 b****ts shipped to a single address in his apartment complex

* Jerry Mosna found 83 mail-in b****ts shipped to his apartment complex in San Pedro, California this weekend
* All 83 b****ts were sent to the same address where a single 89-year-old woman lives 
* The Los Angeles County  Registrar's Office is investigating the incident
* It 'appears to be an isolated situation related to a system error that caused causing duplicate b****ts to be issued to' a single v**er's address

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_b****ts_went_missing_in_last_four_e******ns_143033.html
28 Million Mail-In B****ts Went Missing in Last Four E******ns

“Between 2012 and 2018, 28.3 million mail-in b****ts remain unaccounted for, according to data from the federal E******n Assistance Commission. The missing b****ts amount to nearly one in five of all absentee b****ts and b****ts mailed to v**ers residing in states that do e******ns exclusively by mail.”

“Although there is no evidence that the millions of missing b****ts were used fraudulently, the Public Interest Legal Foundation, which compiled the public data provided from the E******n Assistance Commission, says that the sheer volume of them raises serious doubts about e******n security.”

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/04/21/15-e******n-results-that-were-thrown-out-because-of-fraudulent-mail-in-b****ts/
15 E******n Results That Were Thrown Out Because of Fraudulent Mail-In B****ts

“V***r f***d is too nominal to make a difference in any given e******n, goes one popular line of argument. But tell that to v**ers in parts of Florida, Missouri, New York, and North Carolina in recent years. Districts in these four states saw e******n outcomes overturned after absentee v***r f***d came to light.”

Between 1992 and 2018, at least 20 v***r f***d cases resulted in overturned e******ns, according to The Heritage Foundation’s E******n F***d Database. 

Here are 15 instances in which courts threw out an e******n result based in whole or in part on absentee v****g fraud, from The Heritage Foundation’s database and other sources. (click the link to see the 15 instances)

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Won't be long till the OPP Anti-ID V**er folks will be here telling us that it's nonsense and that it's the right for Democrats to commit to v***r f***d sense they have such a hard time winning !

peg w

Florida did an extensive v***r f***d investigation They can v**e by mail.The investigstion coveted four years. The conclusion. NO V***R F***D. Some mistakes will happen, but if there is s raging epidemic, I want to mail in my b****t.

moldyoldy

It is nonsense, right wing media trying to make a case. If you read the whole story, nothing happened. People did not send in b****ts in an off year e******n, computer malfunction generated multiple b****ts, etc.

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Maybe you should read the whole thing !

Why are the Democrats and their followers always fighting against f**r e******ns they fight V**er ID tooth and toenail to stop them ?

moldyoldy

There is nothing fair about what they are trying to do. Every change is an effort at v**er suppression. They close the polls, move the places to get ID, raise the prices of getting vital statistics. These GOP tactics started the minute that the v**er protection act was allowed to expire. The GOP is worried because they have lost support from the majority of people.

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Hogwash

moldyoldy

That is typical of a misinformed righty

Russian Boris

There’s really no good argument against v**e ID much like arguments against the wall.
Your b****t should be processed by registered elected officials not the third party. Plain and simple

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

Oh really!

"In 2017, Eatonville, Florida Mayor Anthony Grant was convicted of a felony charge of v****g fraud and misdemeanor absentee v****g violations. Prosecutors said that as a candidate in 2015, Grant coerced absentee v**ers to cast b****ts for him. In at least one case, prosecutors said, Grant personally solicited an absentee v**e from a nonresident. Grant, a former mayor, lost the in-person v**e but won the e******n with more than twice the number of absentee b****ts that incumbent Bruce Mount got. After Grant’s indictment, then-Gov. Rick Scott suspended the mayor. After his conviction, he was sentenced to 400 hours of community service and four years’ probation.

This case was more than a decade after the Florida Department of Law Enforcement concluded: “The absentee b****t is the ‘tool of choice’ for those who are engaging in e******n f***d.” 


This 1998 report came after the department concluded an investigation of Miami’s mayoral e******n the year before. A judge had thrown out the result after prosecutors brought  a massive fraud case that involved more than 5,000 absentee b****ts." https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-v**erfraudcases.pdf

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

The numbers speak for themselves Moldy. There are three kinds of people. "Those that see. Those that see when shown. Those that refuse to see" ---Leonardo DaVinci

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Only way moldy would be against v***r f***d is if all the v**es were going to Republicans THEN moldy would be all over the V**er ID !

moldyoldy

[quote=4430]Only way moldy would be against v***r f***d is if all the v**es were going to Republicans THEN moldy would be all over the V**er ID ![/

Did North Carolina Admit to Targeting Black V**ers with a ‘V**er ID’ Law?
Two academics brought to light the state's efforts to violate protections against "intentional discrimination."

ARTURO GARCIA
PUBLISHED 22 OCTOBER 2018


Republican V**er Suppression Efforts Are Targeting Minorities, Journalist Says

October 23, 20182:04 PM ET
Heard on Fresh Air
Terry Gross square 2017


TERRY Supreme Court thwarts v**er ID law that targeted black v**ers with 'almost surgical precision'

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[quote=moldyoldy][quote=4430]Only way moldy would be against v***r f***d is if all the v**es were going to Republicans THEN moldy would be all over the V**er ID ![/

Did North Carolina Admit to Targeting Black V**ers with a ‘V**er ID’ Law?
Two academics brought to light the state's efforts to violate protections against "intentional discrimination."

ARTURO GARCIA
PUBLISHED 22 OCTOBER 2018


Republican V**er Suppression Efforts Are Targeting Minorities, Journalist Says

October 23, 20182:04 PM ET
Heard on Fresh Air
Terry Gross square 2017


TERRY Supreme Court thwarts v**er ID law that targeted black v**ers with 'almost surgical precision'[/quote]
So minorities don't have drivers licenses? That's a very r****t point of view.
I thought only republicans were r****ts...where is the article?
All I got was 2 academics "believe" there is intentional discrimination

moldyoldy

The judge sure saw clearly as a targeted crime.