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May 29, 2020 07:24:33   #
American Vet
 
"A study by the Freedom Foundation of the official COVID-19 death toll from the Washington State Department of Health found that 82% of deaths “list some variation of ‘COVID-19’ in one of the causes of death” on the death certificate; 5% of the death certificates do not list COVID-19 as a cause of death, but as a “significant condition contributing to death;” and 13% involve persons who “had previously tested positive for COVID-19 but did not have the virus listed anywhere on their death certificate as either causing or contributing to death.”

Democratic Gov. Jay Inslee assailed the report as “dangerous,” “disgusting” and “malarkey” (man, Democrats love that word!) He also accused the Freedom Foundation of “fanning these conspiracy claims from the planet Pluto” and not caring about lives lost to the virus, even though the numbers came straight from his own Health Department.

And a spokeswoman for the DOH (or “D’oh!” as Homer Simpson would appropriately say) admitted that five people on the virus death list appear to have actually died from gunshot wounds. Oh, well, liberals blame of all those on Trump, too."

https://www.mikehuckabee.com/latest-news?id=EED73837-A874-4807-9812-78D381663276&s=4CEQ

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May 29, 2020 07:39:26   #
fullspinzoo
 
American Vet wrote:
"A study by the Freedom Foundation of the official COVID-19 death toll from the Washington State Department of Health found that 82% of deaths “list some variation of ‘COVID-19’ in one of the causes of death” on the death certificate; 5% of the death certificates do not list COVID-19 as a cause of death, but as a “significant condition contributing to death;” and 13% involve persons who “had previously tested positive for COVID-19 but did not have the virus listed anywhere on their death certificate as either causing or contributing to death.”

Democratic Gov. Jay Inslee assailed the report as “dangerous,” “disgusting” and “malarkey” (man, Democrats love that word!) He also accused the Freedom Foundation of “fanning these conspiracy claims from the planet Pluto” and not caring about lives lost to the virus, even though the numbers came straight from his own Health Department.

And a spokeswoman for the DOH (or “D’oh!” as Homer Simpson would appropriately say) admitted that five people on the virus death list appear to have actually died from gunshot wounds. Oh, well, liberals blame of all those on Trump, too."

https://www.mikehuckabee.com/latest-news?id=EED73837-A874-4807-9812-78D381663276&s=4CEQ
"A study by the Freedom Foundation of the off... (show quote)


I think these numbers are all "out of whack". Who knows if these are really accurate? And of course, the Left is trying to paint the worst possible picture. And even more so, they want to see the market tank and the economy as bleak as possible. Who cares if somebody's IRA loses that 35% gain made before the virus. For the Dems, it's all politics. Just remember when the virus tragedy started to heat up, the Dems only had one thing on their mind: Impeachment!!! If they had this country's best interest at heart, maybe they could have saved 10's of thousands of lives. Instead, they were interested in some fool-hearted political BS. Thanks to Pelosi, Schiff and Company.

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May 29, 2020 08:04:25   #
DASHY
 
American Vet wrote:
"A study by the Freedom Foundation of the official COVID-19 death toll from the Washington State Department of Health found that 82% of deaths “list some variation of ‘COVID-19’ in one of the causes of death” on the death certificate; 5% of the death certificates do not list COVID-19 as a cause of death, but as a “significant condition contributing to death;” and 13% involve persons who “had previously tested positive for COVID-19 but did not have the virus listed anywhere on their death certificate as either causing or contributing to death.”

Democratic Gov. Jay Inslee assailed the report as “dangerous,” “disgusting” and “malarkey” (man, Democrats love that word!) He also accused the Freedom Foundation of “fanning these conspiracy claims from the planet Pluto” and not caring about lives lost to the virus, even though the numbers came straight from his own Health Department.

And a spokeswoman for the DOH (or “D’oh!” as Homer Simpson would appropriately say) admitted that five people on the virus death list appear to have actually died from gunshot wounds. Oh, well, liberals blame of all those on Trump, too."

https://www.mikehuckabee.com/latest-news?id=EED73837-A874-4807-9812-78D381663276&s=4CEQ
"A study by the Freedom Foundation of the off... (show quote)


Questioning official COVID-19 statistics is a new "virus 'truther' movement." Are COVID deaths undercounted? Yes, because we only count people who have been tested and this represents a very small percentage of the population. Are COVID deaths overcounted? Probably Yes, because, with lack of testing, it is inferred that all new deaths are caused by COVID-19. Also, it has been claimed that COVID deaths bring more money to cover the related costs of treatment. Depending on our political point of view, we can use the over/under reporting claim to drive home our specific political agenda. It's very useful because the counting methods are unscientific and prone to manipulation.

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May 29, 2020 08:14:00   #
DASHY
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
I think these numbers are all "out of whack". Who knows if these are really accurate? And of course, the Left is trying to paint the worst possible picture. And even more so, they want to see the market tank and the economy as bleak as possible. Who cares if somebody's IRA loses that 35% gain made before the virus. For the Dems, it's all politics. Just remember when the virus tragedy started to heat up, the Dems only had one thing on their mind: Impeachment!!! If they had this country's best interest at heart, maybe they could have saved 10's of thousands of lives. Instead, they were interested in some fool-hearted political BS. Thanks to Pelosi, Schiff and Company.
I think these numbers are all "out of whack&q... (show quote)


Here is a good example of a poster advancing his political agenda. It is obvious he loves Trump and condemns Democrats, showing no evidence to support his claim except "these numbers are all out of whack." He doesn't even need to disclose which numbers and how they are out of whack.

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May 29, 2020 08:51:35   #
American Vet
 
DASHY wrote:
Questioning official COVID-19 statistics is a new "virus 'truther' movement."


So do you believe that "official" data/statistics should not be questioned?

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May 29, 2020 09:18:16   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
American Vet wrote:
"A study by the Freedom Foundation of the official COVID-19 death toll from the Washington State Department of Health found that 82% of deaths “list some variation of ‘COVID-19’ in one of the causes of death” on the death certificate; 5% of the death certificates do not list COVID-19 as a cause of death, but as a “significant condition contributing to death;” and 13% involve persons who “had previously tested positive for COVID-19 but did not have the virus listed anywhere on their death certificate as either causing or contributing to death.”

Democratic Gov. Jay Inslee assailed the report as “dangerous,” “disgusting” and “malarkey” (man, Democrats love that word!) He also accused the Freedom Foundation of “fanning these conspiracy claims from the planet Pluto” and not caring about lives lost to the virus, even though the numbers came straight from his own Health Department.

And a spokeswoman for the DOH (or “D’oh!” as Homer Simpson would appropriately say) admitted that five people on the virus death list appear to have actually died from gunshot wounds. Oh, well, liberals blame of all those on Trump, too."

https://www.mikehuckabee.com/latest-news?id=EED73837-A874-4807-9812-78D381663276&s=4CEQ
"A study by the Freedom Foundation of the off... (show quote)


This bring up an interesting question. Let us say Farmer John was kicked in his head by a horse, other than a swelling brain due to trauma, he is healthy. His family rushes him to hospital, where he is greeted by a masked bubble person who admits him....in the elevator, he touches the person next to him and rubs his face..that person was "infected." In 14 days he dies......and he has covid antibodies.....what killed him? The swollen brain or covid?

Not saying there are many farmer John who owns killer horses....but on any given day 4 people out of 1,000 will die in a car accident, others will die later at hospital. If a portion are asymptomatic, test positive for Covid …. how are those deaths being counted?

If we subtract the intermediate and underlying cause of death from COVID...would we then know how many actually died from COVID?

"Immediate cause of death: The final disease or injury causing the death. Intermediate cause of death: A disease or condition that preceded and caused the immediate cause of death. Underlying cause of death: A disease or condition present before, and leading to, the intermediate or immediate cause of death. It can be present for years before the death."

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May 30, 2020 15:54:17   #
Mario Moreno
 
Whichever is the most financially advantageous COVID-19 count is the statistic that will be used to get all of the government funding possible for confirmed COVID-19 deaths.

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May 30, 2020 19:00:46   #
WEBCO
 
DASHY wrote:
Questioning official COVID-19 statistics is a new "virus 'truther' movement." Are COVID deaths undercounted? Yes, because we only count people who have been tested and this represents a very small percentage of the population. Are COVID deaths overcounted? Probably Yes, because, with lack of testing, it is inferred that all new deaths are caused by COVID-19. Also, it has been claimed that COVID deaths bring more money to cover the related costs of treatment. Depending on our political point of view, we can use the over/under reporting claim to drive home our specific political agenda. It's very useful because the counting methods are unscientific and prone to manipulation.
Questioning official COVID-19 statistics is a new ... (show quote)


Your premise is false. You surmise that Chinese flu disease deaths are only counted if people have been tested and we don't have enough people tested. The FACT is that "Anyone showing Any signs" of this Chinese virus be counted as dying from it. Therefore they aren't being undercounted, they can't be.

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