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May 23, 2020 14:34:08   #
Tug484
 
Saspatz007 wrote:
Study isn’t conclusive but sure doesn’t look good.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fulltext
I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
A recent study, including over 96000 hospitalized C****-** confirmed patients from over 650 hospitals on 6 continents, indicates the antimalarial medications of such public renown may do more harm than good.
The study corrects for age, BMI, and other health problems.
4 treatment groups were examined.
Hydroxylchloroquine alone
““ combined with antibiotics
Chloroquine alone
“” combined with antibiotics
The study found a higher death rate among patients who received these treatments than those who didn’t receive them.
Apparently, the most common problem was the development of new heart problems.
Study isn’t conclusive but sure doesn’t look good.... (show quote)


Funny how aspirin and Tylenol are much more dangerous than that drug.
Some phony scare tactics are being used.

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May 23, 2020 20:32:24   #
Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds
 
Tug484 wrote:
Funny how aspirin and Tylenol are much more dangerous than that drug.
Some phony scare tactics are being used.


I’d be interested where you got this idea from?

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May 23, 2020 21:13:40   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Saspatz007 wrote:
I’d be interested where you got this idea from?


I'd like to see you disprove it!

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May 23, 2020 23:09:00   #
Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds
 
bilordinary wrote:
I'd like to see you disprove it!


https://www.drugs.com/sfx/hydroxychloroquine-side-effects.html

https://www.drugs.com/sfx/aspirin-side-effects.html

https://www.drugs.com/sfx/acetaminophen-side-effects.html

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May 23, 2020 23:34:05   #
PeterS
 
Seth wrote:
That must mean that all those hundreds of doctors in all those other countries as well as several in New York State, even, who have been using it for weeks and swear it is working for most of their patients must be hallucinating.

No, what it means is that you can't use anecdotal evidence when determining the success of a trial. President bubba latched onto it because he panicked and wanted a magic bullet to make C***D go away. Well, there's not a magic bullet else I doubt there isn't a doctor out there who wouldn't have been prescribing it like mad.

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May 23, 2020 23:44:46   #
PeterS
 
Seth wrote:
I've pretty well reached the point that I don't trust most of these reports because they all conflict, but I also recall from living in NY as recently as 27 months ago that there's little to choose between reporting by NY1 and reporting by the rest of the MSM.

It does seem "strange" that one week we're hearing how well it works and then the next, in the same place, we're hearing it doesn't work.

Something highly fishy (🐟) there.

So who's telling you it works? You can hear a thousand reports but unless it's an actual study it means nothing one way or the other. Maybe the fishy part is who's passing the word...

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May 24, 2020 00:06:02   #
Seth
 
PeterS wrote:
No, what it means is that you can't use anecdotal evidence when determining the success of a trial. President bubba latched onto it because he panicked and wanted a magic bullet to make C***D go away. Well, there's not a magic bullet else I doubt there isn't a doctor out there who wouldn't have been prescribing it like mad.


As I said, doctors in Belgium, Italy and one or two Arab countries have reported positive results and their intention to continue it's use.

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May 24, 2020 00:08:13   #
Seth
 
PeterS wrote:
So who's telling you it works? You can hear a thousand reports but unless it's an actual study it means nothing one way or the other. Maybe the fishy part is who's passing the word...


No, the fishy part is too many pieces of information from too many sources that conflict with one another.

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May 24, 2020 00:20:11   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Saspatz007 wrote:


https://aapsonline.org/hcq-90-percent-chance/

https://www.recallreport.org/financial-compensation/tylenol-lawsuits/

I take one a day. And yes I know I am going to die.
https://www.aboutlawsuits.com/aspirin-bleeding-study-156782/

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May 24, 2020 19:54:25   #
Tug484
 
Saspatz007 wrote:
I’d be interested where you got this idea from?


I watched a Dr. on the news.
Aspirin was 48th most dangerous and Tylenol was number 49.
Both worse than hydrochloroquine.
I learned a long time ago that Tylenol is not good for your liver.

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May 24, 2020 20:39:19   #
kemmer
 
Tug484 wrote:
I watched a Dr. on the news.
Aspirin was 48th most dangerous and Tylenol was number 49.
Both worse than hydrochloroquine.
I learned a long time ago that Tylenol is not good for your liver.

NOTHING is good for you in excess.

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May 24, 2020 20:47:04   #
Tug484
 
kemmer wrote:
NOTHING is good for you in excess.


No it isn't.
People have taken too much Tylenol at one time and it's bad for the liver.

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May 24, 2020 22:43:23   #
Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds
 
Tug484 wrote:
I watched a Dr. on the news.
Aspirin was 48th most dangerous and Tylenol was number 49.
Both worse than hydrochloroquine.
I learned a long time ago that Tylenol is not good for your liver.


Some good news 🥳
Remdesivir is looking like it will at least reduce recovery time and is safer as a baseline treatment than Hydroxychloroquine.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/the-antiv***l-remdesivir-shortens-c****-**-recovery-times-study-shows/%3Famp%3D1

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May 24, 2020 23:20:10   #
Tug484
 
Saspatz007 wrote:
Some good news 🥳
Remdesivir is looking like it will at least reduce recovery time and is safer as a baseline treatment than Hydroxychloroquine.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/the-antiv***l-remdesivir-shortens-c****-**-recovery-times-study-shows/%3Famp%3D1


That's great.

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May 25, 2020 00:55:02   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Saspatz007 wrote:
Some good news 🥳
Remdesivir is looking like it will at least reduce recovery time and is safer as a baseline treatment than Hydroxychloroquine.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/the-antiv***l-remdesivir-shortens-c****-**-recovery-times-study-shows/%3Famp%3D1


Cheap too, only $100 a pill.

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