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May 22, 2020 18:23:09   #
mgershowitz
 
drlarrygino wrote:
You are unequivocally wrong as usual and need to stick to knitting and boiling water. Science is not one of your strong points. You probably don't even know at what temperature water boils!!Like Adam Schitt, you like to concoct false stories to cover up your inept intellectual abities.


As dumb as this question may be, what’s the actual scientific proof backing up Trump’s claims? Small studies with no control groups or peer reviews are meaningless, and if he’s already lying about the benefits why would he also not lie about all the doctor raves. Circular logic is meaningless; for a very long time everyone believed the world was flat and the sun revolved around the Earth.

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May 22, 2020 18:24:17   #
Comment Loc: California
 
factnotfiction wrote:
Nobody knows what the drug can or cannot do, so the 'experts' tell their lies and the i***tic media spread those lies


Therefore, what is your point? I suspect U don't have one. Just more Dumocrap bs.

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May 22, 2020 18:30:10   #
Comment Loc: California
 
mgershowitz wrote:
As dumb as this question may be, what’s the actual scientific proof backing up Trump’s claims? Small studies with no control groups or peer reviews are meaningless, and if he’s already lying about the benefits why would he also not lie about all the doctor raves. Circular logic is meaningless; for a very long time everyone believed the world was flat and the sun revolved around the Earth.


And that's your belief. No creditability at all. If U are to make a believable case, please, present some creditable evidence supporting your case. Otherwise, just hot worthless air.

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May 22, 2020 18:34:21   #
mgershowitz
 
drlarrygino wrote:
"Close medical supervision" is the key phrase in your thought processes. In my experience, with medical personnel, close medical supervision is almost impossible to find. What is your definition of " Close medical supervision?"


I wish all questions asked on this forum were so meaningful as well as easy to clearly answer in a universally understandable way.

In lieu of Trump’s cowboy behavior of telling his doctor to simply write him a prescription, per the FDA‘s “off-label” approval a licensed medical professional, i.e.: Nurse-Practicioner, Physician’s Assistant or actual M.D. should 1st examine the patient, determine a proper diagnosis, prescribe the drug and monitor the results via regular checkup (during these extraordinary times, virtually is likely fine).

Using the FDA’s fast-tracked “off-label” approval as an cudgel/excuse to disregard our govt’s entire protection apparatus is just plain stupid😇

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May 22, 2020 19:31:19   #
Comment Loc: California
 
GoCubs wrote:
Trump claims he's taking it as a preventive measure.


What to Hell do U care? U just want him dead. Why are U spouting BS when U don't know a friggin thing about the subject. Excuse me? U may be a doctor. I dono.

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May 22, 2020 19:48:55   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
mgershowitz wrote:
More made-up stuff? All we know is it didn’t work; why after 15,000 freakin’ lies since taking office does anyone believe a single word Trump utters w/o definitive proof of actual t***h? He lies to gain political advantage... the most t***hful thing he ever uttered was: “I could shoot someone dead in the middle of 5th Ave and not lose any supporters.” You may think that’s a good thing but I believe at least 54% of Americans don’t.


He's learned how from all the other politicians. How do you know when a politician is lying; his/her/its lips are moving (must be politically correct and g****r-neutral; don't want to offend any snowflakes). But then all lies are not created equal. Pelosi and the Democrats have told some real whoppers. The Democrats think every time Trump says anything, even when he might be thinking out loud, then he is telling a lie. Clorox/Lysol for example.
Instead of being so partisan and full of h**e for Trump because you've been told to do this by the media and Democratic party, why don't you open your mind? There's plenty of justified criticism to go around for both parties. Get over your TDS, Take the red pill!

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May 22, 2020 20:04:17   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
mgershowitz wrote:
I wish all questions asked on this forum were so meaningful as well as easy to clearly answer in a universally understandable way.

In lieu of Trump’s cowboy behavior of telling his doctor to simply write him a prescription, per the FDA‘s “off-label” approval a licensed medical professional, i.e.: Nurse-Practicioner, Physician’s Assistant or actual M.D. should 1st examine the patient, determine a proper diagnosis, prescribe the drug and monitor the results via regular checkup (during these extraordinary times, virtually is likely fine).

Using the FDA’s fast-tracked “off-label” approval as an cudgel/excuse to disregard our govt’s entire protection apparatus is just plain stupid😇
I wish all questions asked on this forum were so m... (show quote)


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I wish all questions asked on this forum were so meaningful as well as easy to clearly answer in a universally understandable way.

Then don't ask such convoluted and nebulous questions that are based on fallacies and false premises.

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Nurse-Practicioner, Physician’s Assistant or actual M.D. should 1st examine the patient, determine a proper diagnosis, prescribe the drug and monitor the results via regular checkup (during these extraordinary times, virtually is likely fine)
What makes you think they don't do this. You don't know what his doctored did because of patient confidentiality. Did Trump literally say he told his doctor to treat him with hydroxychloroquine? You just said he is a world-class liar, so if Trump said this, why would you believe? Maybe because your confirmation bias fits your preconceived narrative. Hmmm?

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Using the FDA’s fast-tracked “off-label” approval as an cudgel/excuse to disregard our govt’s entire protection apparatus is just plain stupid😇
How is that working for you? They also have to weigh the risks involved against the mortality rate. The FDA has already proven they are a lumbering dinosaur of a bureaucracy. Even when they do it right many medications present serious problems years and years later. However, some great therapies have been discovered by trying some things not pre-approved for their intended use. It's called thinking outside the box. You should try it sometime.

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May 22, 2020 23:45:00   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
dtucker300 wrote:
How is that working for you? They also have to weigh the risks involved against the mortality rate. The FDA has already proven they are a lumbering dinosaur of a bureaucracy. Even when they do it right many medications present serious problems years and years later. However, some great therapies have been discovered by trying some things not pre-approved for their intended use. It's called thinking outside the box. You should try it sometime.


This guy, mgerxxxxx, appears to have a really bad case of TDS, as well as being surrounded by darkness, not light.

HCQ is controversial, but there are many cases where the regimen of HCQ and Z-TAP have clearly saved lives. One guy was on the TV today crediting this regimen for saving his life. Anecdotal, sure, but how many saved lives does it take to break down the antipathy to it?

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May 24, 2020 21:38:49   #
Comment Loc: California
 
GoCubs wrote:
Trump claims he's taking it as a preventive measure.


Why are U typing yo ass off for no reason. U want Trump to die. Period! I don't understand why U aren't jumping up in glee for joy. Are U desperately confused?

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May 24, 2020 21:44:50   #
Rose42
 
factnotfiction wrote:
So despite all of the misinformation about how effective and safe the drug is, it does not guarantee that it will prevent c****avius infections.

And the possibility exists that trump may be infected at some point.



https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2020/05/20/how-can-i-be-sick-woman-who-took-hydroxychloroquine-for-19-years-to-treat-lupus-still-got-c****-**/


Well ‘fiction, I suggest you learn what lupus is and what happens to the body over time. Its an autoimmune disease.

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May 24, 2020 21:53:06   #
Comment Loc: California
 
[quote=factnotfiction]So despite all of the misinformation about how effective and safe the drug is, it does not guarantee that it will prevent c****avius infections.

And the possibility exists that trump may be infected at some point.



https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2020/05/20/how-can-i-be-sick-woman-who-took-hydroxychloroquine-for-19-years-to-treat-lupus-still-got-c****-**/[/quote

What is your point? U don't care about President Trump's health. U are just posting bull sheet. Pathetic, it is to stoop this low. Factnotfiction: U don't know the words, period? So sad!!!!

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May 25, 2020 23:26:59   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
manning5 wrote:
This guy, mgerxxxxx, appears to have a really bad case of TDS, as well as being surrounded by darkness, not light.

HCQ is controversial, but there are many cases where the regimen of HCQ and Z-TAP have clearly saved lives. One guy was on the TV today crediting this regimen for saving his life. Anecdotal, sure, but how many saved lives does it take to break down the antipathy to it?



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May 26, 2020 04:17:50   #
newbear Loc: New York City
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Several things are left out of the article or not emphasized. They don't say how old she is. She already has a weakened i****e s****m from the autoimmune disease, which is exactly the type of people that SARs CoV-2 likes. We don't know what her living situation is or who she is regularly exposed to. Hydroxychloroquine, anecdotally, has to be combined with other therapies such as zinc to be effective in mitigating the disease.
Finally, this is one isolated case out of seven billion people in the world and there are always exceptions to every rule in situations like these. Anything is possible.

People will always continue to become ill for a variety of reasons. People will continue to die. That's something science and medicine have not yet cured. But we do have control over how we destroy our livelihoods or not. It is simply a matter of weighing the risks involved and deciding what course of action to follow rather than having the politicians dictate what you can or can't do. Those people who are at high risk of contracting the v***s should take extra precautions while those who are not at as great of risk can decide how to best live their own lives. The best thing for the government to do is get out of the way.
Several things are left out of the article or not ... (show quote)


Thanks Dtucker300,

for injecting a little sanity into this partisan madness, coming all the way from Heilongjian Province of CPR.

I am amazed how fast the news travels these days, when people have nothing better to do.

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May 26, 2020 18:00:25   #
newbear Loc: New York City
 
factnotfiction wrote:
So despite all of the misinformation about how effective and safe the drug is, it does not guarantee that it will prevent c****avius infections.

And the possibility exists that trump may be infected at some point.



https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2020/05/20/how-can-i-be-sick-woman-who-took-hydroxychloroquine-for-19-years-to-treat-lupus-still-got-c****-**/


factnotfiction:

Lupus is an autoimmune disease, hydroxychloroquine helps alleviate its symptoms but does not alter certain imbalances in a patient' i****e s****m.

In the used context, this drug causes irreparable damage in the brain function of persons who merely mention it by its name.

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May 27, 2020 00:20:59   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
newbear wrote:
factnotfiction:

Lupus is an autoimmune disease, hydroxychloroquine helps alleviate its symptoms but does not alter certain imbalances in a patient' i****e s****m.

In the used context, this drug causes irreparable damage in the brain function of persons who merely mention it by its name.



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