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Woman takes hydroxychloroquine 20 years for Lupus, just got coronavirus
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May 21, 2020 10:28:25   #
factnotfiction
 
So despite all of the misinformation about how effective and safe the drug is, it does not guarantee that it will prevent coronavius infections.

And the possibility exists that trump may be infected at some point.



https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2020/05/20/how-can-i-be-sick-woman-who-took-hydroxychloroquine-for-19-years-to-treat-lupus-still-got-covid-19/

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May 21, 2020 10:32:24   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
factnotfiction wrote:
So despite all of the misinformation about how effective and safe the drug is, it does not guarantee that it will prevent coronavius infections.

And the possibility exists that trump may be infected at some point.



https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2020/05/20/how-can-i-be-sick-woman-who-took-hydroxychloroquine-for-19-years-to-treat-lupus-still-got-covid-19/


Who said it prevented infection?

Thought the spin was it cured you faster????

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May 21, 2020 10:37:21   #
factnotfiction
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Who said it prevented infection?

Thought the spin was it cured you faster????




Nobody knows what the drug can or cannot do, so the 'experts' tell their lies and the idiotic media spread those lies

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May 21, 2020 10:47:39   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
factnotfiction wrote:
Nobody knows what the drug can or cannot do, so the 'experts' tell their lies and the idiotic media spread those lies


Think I'll just keep avoiding the Wuflu...

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May 21, 2020 12:50:57   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Think I'll just keep avoiding the Wuflu...


Agree! However, I understand that HCQ must be supplemented with a Zinc compound, so simple use of just HCQ does not give the wanted results against COVID-19. Much of the reporting does not talk about the other compound or compounds needed.

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May 21, 2020 13:53:36   #
GoCubs Loc: Earth
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Who said it prevented infection?

Thought the spin was it cured you faster????


Trump claims he's taking it as a preventive measure.

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May 21, 2020 13:58:24   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
factnotfiction wrote:
So despite all of the misinformation about how effective and safe the drug is, it does not guarantee that it will prevent coronavius infections.

And the possibility exists that trump may be infected at some point.



https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2020/05/20/how-can-i-be-sick-woman-who-took-hydroxychloroquine-for-19-years-to-treat-lupus-still-got-covid-19/


Several things are left out of the article or not emphasized. They don't say how old she is. She already has a weakened immune system from the autoimmune disease, which is exactly the type of people that SARs CoV-2 likes. We don't know what her living situation is or who she is regularly exposed to. Hydroxychloroquine, anecdotally, has to be combined with other therapies such as zinc to be effective in mitigating the disease.
Finally, this is one isolated case out of seven billion people in the world and there are always exceptions to every rule in situations like these. Anything is possible.

People will always continue to become ill for a variety of reasons. People will continue to die. That's something science and medicine have not yet cured. But we do have control over how we destroy our livelihoods or not. It is simply a matter of weighing the risks involved and deciding what course of action to follow rather than having the politicians dictate what you can or can't do. Those people who are at high risk of contracting the virus should take extra precautions while those who are not at as great of risk can decide how to best live their own lives. The best thing for the government to do is get out of the way.

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May 21, 2020 14:23:55   #
nwtk2007
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Who said it prevented infection?

Thought the spin was it cured you faster????


It helps the sick person survive by keeping hemoglobin available for oxygen binding.

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May 21, 2020 14:30:01   #
GoCubs Loc: Earth
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Several things are left out of the article or not emphasized. They don't say how old she is. She already has a weakened immune system from the autoimmune disease, which is exactly the type of people that SARs CoV-2 likes. We don't know what her living situation is or who she is regularly exposed to. Hydroxychloroquine, anecdotally, has to be combined with other therapies such as zinc to be effective in mitigating the disease.
Finally, this is one isolated case out of seven billion people in the world and there are always exceptions to every rule in situations like these. Anything is possible.

People will always continue to become ill for a variety of reasons. People will continue to die. That's something science and medicine have not yet cured. But we do have control over how we destroy our livelihoods or not. It is simply a matter of weighing the risks involved and deciding what course of action to follow rather than having the politicians dictate what you can or can't do. Those people who are at high risk of contracting the virus should take extra precautions while those who are not at as great of risk can decide how to best live their own lives. The best thing for the government to do is get out of the way.
Several things are left out of the article or not ... (show quote)


I saw on the news a couple of days ago that a 102 year old lady had it and survived. This A.M. I read about a 2 year old succumbing to it (don't remember where, but not in the U.S.). I realize these are exceptions, as you mentioned, but man, this thing is crazy. Many youngish seemingly healthy people have gotten extremely sick from it and a good number have died. It's just so weird how it sometimes affects people who get it so differently.

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May 21, 2020 20:57:01   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
GoCubs wrote:
I saw on the news a couple of days ago that a 102 year old lady had it and survived. This A.M. I read about a 2 year old succumbing to it (don't remember where, but not in the U.S.). I realize these are exceptions, as you mentioned, but man, this thing is crazy. Many youngish seemingly healthy people have gotten extremely sick from it and a good number have died. It's just so weird how it sometimes affects people who get it so differently.


That it is! They still haven't totally figured how the inflammation in children is connected to COVID-19. Maybe it reacts with some of the other vaccines children are being given; in their all-in-one shot that Bill Gates is so giddy about giving to everyone. I'm just thinking and joking out loud so don't everyone get their panties all in a wad.

One-size-fits-all medical care doesn't work, just as one-size-fits-all quarantines and stay at home orders don't work. What astonishes me is how people are so willing to surrender their liberty. They wouldn't have done this 50 years ago. People didn't put their lives on hold during the Spanish Flu pandemic in 1918. Yet more than a half-million Americans died. More than all the Americans killed in wars in the twentieth century. But people's reactions to the flu were pretty much the same then as they are now. They used face-masks, tried weird medicines and homemade or folk remedies, and doctors tried to make a vaccine (that was useless) to treat it because they thought it was caused by bacteria. People in the government listened to experts who were no different from the experts we are hearing from today. They didn't know what to do either.

I had a bird, his name was Enza,
He came through my window, in flew Enza.

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May 22, 2020 05:48:22   #
drlarrygino
 
factnotfiction wrote:
So despite all of the misinformation about how effective and safe the drug is, it does not guarantee that it will prevent coronavius infections.

And the possibility exists that trump may be infected at some point.



https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2020/05/20/how-can-i-be-sick-woman-who-took-hydroxychloroquine-for-19-years-to-treat-lupus-still-got-covid-19/


Probably a simple reason why she got the Chairman Xi Wuhan Chinese virus. Most patients don't stick to their doctors prescribed directions of administering the prescription medicine. She probably went off the dosing procedure or took it wrong for some time or even forgot to take it. It happens all the time and docs can't regulate it if the patient doesn't follow the standard guidelines for proper dosing.

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May 22, 2020 14:28:39   #
mgershowitz
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Who said it prevented infection?

Thought the spin was it cured you faster????


Just as I thought, Trump fans only hear what they want and disregard the rest; in his own words taking hydroxychloroquine is all about infection prevention!

BTW: the preponderance of evidence shows this drug doesn’t actually cure people any faster either; all that’s known for certain thus far is there’s a nasty heart rhythm side-effect🤕💔🤡

As many of us have also learned, “fake news” defines something Trump fans would rather not hear.

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May 22, 2020 14:55:52   #
drlarrygino
 
mgershowitz wrote:
Just as I thought, Trump fans only hear what they want and disregard the rest; in his own words taking hydroxychloroquine is all about infection prevention!

BTW: the preponderance of evidence shows this drug doesn’t actually cure people any faster either; all that’s known for certain thus far is there’s a nasty heart rhythm side-effect🤕💔🤡

As many of us have also learned, “fake news” defines something Trump fans would rather not hear.


You must have missed something. In hydroxycloraquine's 40 year usage hardly any side effects have ever been noted by docs who work in clinics and military docs. Think of all the hydroxy that the military guys get an how unbelievably low the side effects are. In fact I don't even think more than 10 deaths have ever been attributed to the drug. Now that's a darn good safety record. The fake news is you bleeding hearts telling us how bad this safe drug really is!!

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May 22, 2020 15:19:17   #
mgershowitz
 
drlarrygino wrote:
You must have missed something. In hydroxycloraquine's 40 year usage hardly any side effects have ever been noted by docs who work in clinics and military docs. Think of all the hydroxy that the military guys get an how unbelievably low the side effects are. In fact I don't even think more than 10 deaths have ever been attributed to the drug. Now that's a darn good safety record. The fake news is you bleeding hearts telling us how bad this safe drug really is!!


I’m missing nothing...

The heart rhythm side-effect is very real and before Trump no one dared take this drug w/o close medical supervision, which means the medical system worked near flawlessly.

Our President is now setting the absolute worst possible example; what if his message was “a small amount of opioids are harmless for whatever is causing you pain, so what do you have to lose?”

Of course per my prior message you’ll only hear what you want but the truth is ~ 70,000 people already die needlessly each and every year from opioid overdoses; I suppose they have nothing to lose either?

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May 22, 2020 15:27:36   #
1ProudAmerican
 
If she took it for 20 years, her body probably built up a tolerance to it and thus it was not effective against C19.

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