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May 22, 2020 10:31:25   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
Kickaha wrote:
There is a difference between laws and regulations. Some regulations get written because someone got upset about something and decided they were going to show them who was boss. Too many regulations are written by agencies trying to prove their worth and increase their budgets. Many of the existing regulations seem to be contradictory. What Trump has proposed is that the agencies review their regulations and get rid of those that are outdated, impractical, obtuse, or unnecessary. Things like the 40 hour week and minimum wage are laws and as such it would take Congress to pass a new law changing these. Workers rights are also written laws, not regulations. Things like EPA rules are now required to have scientific evidence supporting proposed rule changes.
There is a difference between laws and regulations... (show quote)


Ever think of the blessing a sunset rule to every law and regulation would be? Everything set to zero after five or ten years. A chance to reevaluate and get rid of bad ideas passed by politicians.

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May 22, 2020 10:56:24   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Right. Less regulations should help.
Workers rights should go first.
Eliminate the minimum wage.
Abolish 40hr week.
End all environmental regulations.
Give the corporations all the money they want.
I should stop here. Their actions are always hidden in something else like kittens once looked into you find it means something else.
Would they ever try to take advantage of the pandemic to work in their favor only?


So why did Trump send the money directly to the people, instead of through the banksters, like Clinton, Bush and Obama did?

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May 22, 2020 11:28:22   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Milosia2 wrote:
A liar, a thief , traitor, now a murderer, who was impeached, just figured out a minority can’t win an election fairly, honestly, or truly.


And exonerated by the Senate. The left always leaves that part, out. The House conducted its investigation in secret, behind closed doors, and kept the whistleblower protected, even though everyone knew who he was. The only place that protects liars from the law and courts is on the floor of Congress. Schiff is the liar, traitor, and he has plenty of connections to the Standard Hotel, Rachel Chandler, Haiti, and the Liddle Kidz Foundation. I think you should do a lot more research on your hero. Where is the evidence he said he had? He never produced any of it.

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May 22, 2020 13:53:59   #
Auntie Dee
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Trump Moves Openly to Steal the Election: Democrats Should Impeach Him Again
2020 Elections | Donald Trump
by Amanda Marcotte | May 22, 2020 - 7:31am
— from Salon

Despite his off-the-charts narcissism, Donald Trump knows on some level that the majority of Americans don't want him to be president and he cannot win in a fair election. He didn't beat Hillary Clinton in the popular vote in 2016 — she got nearly 3 million more votes — and only won because of the outsize influence of smaller, rural states in the Electoral College. He has only grown less popular since then and is now well behind former Vice President Joe Biden in most national polls, usually by a margin of 5 to 8 points.

But Trump has had a plan to win in 2020, ever since his re-election campaign kicked off the second he was inaugurated: Cheat like crazy.

Trying to cheat in the presidential election is, of course, what Trump was impeached for in December, which no doubt feels like ancient history, due to the rising death tolls and exploding unemployment rate over which our "very stable genius" of a president has presided since then. So here's a refresher: Trump, anticipating (apparently correctly) that Biden would be his Democratic opponent, leveraged the power of the State Department in an effort to blackmail the Ukrainian president into publicly backing right-wing conspiracy theories about Biden, threatening to withhold military aid unless Ukrainian officials announced "investigations" into Biden. The idea was to create the 2020 version of "Clinton's emails" by using phony investigations and innuendo to paint Biden as corrupt, even though there's no evidence Biden did anything corrupt in his dealings with Ukraine.

Impeachment did a lot to shut down that scheme (though I have no doubt they'll keep trying), but that doesn't mean Trump has given up the hope that he can rig some kind of victory, even in an election when strong majorities of Americans oppose him. Since shamelessness and callousness are among Trump's central qualities, he's perfectly happy to exploit the coronavirus crisis to do it. Yep, that same crisis that he made exponentially worse with his negligence and open hostility to science — now he wants to use it to deprive American voters of their chance to kick him out on his keister in November.

For obvious reasons, a numerous states have decided to dramatically increase the ability of voters to vote by mail in November, especially after the Republican-controlled Wisconsin Supreme Court forced in-person voting in April, leading to a spike in coronavirus cases in the weeks afterwards. No one can assume that the virus won't still be a threat this fall, and it's better to prepare now for the possibility that people won't be able to vote in person in November.

But Trump is certain — and for good reason — that if more people get to vote, he's likely to lose. So he's freaking out. He's particularly sweating the possibility that voters in swing states will be able to vote by mail in large numbers, since he knows his best chance of winning those states lies in making sure that as few people vote as possible.

"Breaking: Michigan sends absentee ballots to 7.7 million people ahead of Primaries and the General Election," Trump tweeted on Wednesday, in typical hyperventilating style. "This was done illegally and without authorization by a rogue Secretary of State. I will ask to hold up funding to Michigan if they want to go down this Voter Fraud path!"

He deleted and reposted the tweet later to reflect it was ballot applications that were sent, not ballots themselves, but kept the more disturbing false claim that it's illegal to mail ballot applications to voters. He also threatened Nevada in similar fashion.

As Jack Holmes of Esquire pointed out, Trump is threatening two U.S. states in exactly the same way he threatened Ukraine: Claiming he will withhold funds authorized by Congress if the recipient doesn't help him cheat in the 2020 election. This is election fraud and blackmail, but this time directed at Americans.

Not only are these tweets an effort to blackmail the states, but they are also a direct effort to scare ordinary citizens out of voting.

As political analyst Judd Legum pointed out in his newsletter, Popular Information, "Telling someone that an absentee ballot application they receive was sent to them 'illegally' could dissuade them from voting."

Indeed, the tweets themselves are arguably voter intimidation, since Trump is literally trying to scare people into thinking they may be prosecuted if they fill out an application for a mail-in ballot. Voter intimidation is a federal criminal offense that could lead to jail time — except that Trump is hiding behind "executive privilege," which has been used to argue against legal punishment for all his criminal behavior.
Trump Moves Openly to Steal the Election: Democrat... (show quote)


This hate-filled rant is so wrong on so many levels it isn't even worth the time & energy to try to refute it!

Yet, this somehow passes for journalism?

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May 22, 2020 14:31:46   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Is it untrue?
Or are you unwilling to believe it?
Or is trump just a saint that can’t be touched.

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May 22, 2020 14:53:49   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Peewee wrote:
So why did Trump send the money directly to the people, instead of through the banksters, like Clinton, Bush and Obama did?


Huh?
Are you talking to me?

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May 22, 2020 15:15:06   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
dtucker300 wrote:
That's the globalists


The globalists ??????
Why do you think when it comes down to whatever the RepubliPIGs are doing
It’s so important to deflect any or all criticism onto something else?
You do this at your own peril.
Like
Globalists?
You know you cant keep running between the raindrops, right?
Eventually you’re going to get wet.

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May 22, 2020 15:34:25   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Peewee wrote:
And exonerated by the Senate. The left always leaves that part, out. The House conducted its investigation in secret, behind closed doors, and kept the whistleblower protected, even though everyone knew who he was. The only place that protects liars from the law and courts is on the floor of Congress. Schiff is the liar, traitor, and he has plenty of connections to the Standard Hotel, Rachel Chandler, Haiti, and the Liddle Kidz Foundation. I think you should do a lot more research on your hero. Where is the evidence he said he had? He never produced any of it.
And exonerated by the Senate. The left always leav... (show quote)


Trump’s impeachment went exactly by the book.
The evidence was not allowed to be used in court by trump’s orders not to testify
Or relinquish any documents.
The crooked supreme courts upheld trumps nonsense.
The evidence is still there waiting for trump to leave office to be used in a court separate from impeachment.
They are already waiting in line to cuff him as soon as he steps off the government property.
Most of his crimes weren’t discussed or used for impeachment.
I can’t wait to see the laundering Russian money through the taj mahal.

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May 22, 2020 15:39:31   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Peewee wrote:
And exonerated by the Senate. The left always leaves that part, out. The House conducted its investigation in secret, behind closed doors, and kept the whistleblower protected, even though everyone knew who he was. The only place that protects liars from the law and courts is on the floor of Congress. Schiff is the liar, traitor, and he has plenty of connections to the Standard Hotel, Rachel Chandler, Haiti, and the Liddle Kidz Foundation. I think you should do a lot more research on your hero. Where is the evidence he said he had? He never produced any of it.
And exonerated by the Senate. The left always leav... (show quote)




The 2 charges used for impeachment were not the only charges. Mueller found 10 offenses that could’ve been brought in. All with vetted evidence.

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May 22, 2020 15:44:52   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
So the senate let him go on those 2 but there’s more.
Exonerated or acquitted is not to say not guilty.
He was plenty guilty but the senate did not remove him from office.
He was impeached by the House with the evidence they had.
The senate chose to ignore the evidence.

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May 22, 2020 16:58:08   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The globalists ??????
Why do you think when it comes down to whatever the RepubliPIGs are doing
It’s so important to deflect any or all criticism onto something else?
You do this at your own peril.
Like
Globalists?
You know you cant keep running between the raindrops, right?
Eventually you’re going to get wet.


Yeah, I'm deflecting because I'm so tired of reading your nonsense. You don't have a very good understanding of cause and effect. You put together a seemingly good analysis, except that you don't understand the complete picture. Your arguments are like the person who says that wind is the result of the movement of trees; we can't see the wind but we can see the trees move and thus must be the cause of the wind.

I don't feel like responding to your nonsense. I could agree with you but then we'd both be wrong. Other's on OPP have sufficiently explained things to you but you just want to argue for the sake of arguing. You get your jolly's from trying to push people's buttons.

P.S. I'm not a Republican. I am a non-partisan independent fiscal conservative with and social libertarian leanings. I also did not vote for Trump. I thought he was a clown and a buffoon, thanks to media indoctrination. The funny thing is, the media got him elected by all their coverage of his rallies and so forth. Tons of free political ads so that his campaign did not have to spend money. But I intend to vote for him in 2020 because I am quite happy with much of what he has done and the way he has upset the establishment, even in his own party. Both parties and career politicians, in addition to the bureaucracy, are a huge problem. Besides, the Democrats don't have a single candidate who is worthwhile. It remains to be seen who he will pick for his VP candidate because that person will most likely become President under the Twenty-Fifth Amendment.

P.S.S. I always wear a raincoat.

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May 22, 2020 20:26:25   #
maryjane
 
Airforceone wrote:
As Trump opens the country unemployment rises by 2.4 million. At what point do the Trump supporters say to themselves I am backing the wrong guy.

Trump was very excited about getting a $500 billion slush fund to bail out the corporate elite and some of those corporations haven’t paid any corporate taxes in years and have received government subsidy checks. But Trump and the republicans are against extending unemployment to the 39 million unemployed. This is how the Republican Party operates take care of the corporate elite and screw the middle class.

Trump finally got all his cronies out of jail. I wonder if it was Proud Republican thrown in jail for lying would they let her out of jail.
As Trump opens the country unemployment rises by 2... (show quote)


So, you are saying Trump is responsibile for all the unemployment? How does that even make sense? Is he responsibile for the virus?

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May 22, 2020 20:45:35   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
maryjane wrote:
So, you are saying Trump is responsibile for all the unemployment? How does that even make sense? Is he responsibile for the virus?


Would you rather blame Obama and Hillary???

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May 22, 2020 21:04:42   #
son of witless
 
Airforceone wrote:
As Trump opens the country unemployment rises by 2.4 million. At what point do the Trump supporters say to themselves I am backing the wrong guy.

Trump was very excited about getting a $500 billion slush fund to bail out the corporate elite and some of those corporations haven’t paid any corporate taxes in years and have received government subsidy checks. But Trump and the republicans are against extending unemployment to the 39 million unemployed. This is how the Republican Party operates take care of the corporate elite and screw the middle class.

Trump finally got all his cronies out of jail. I wonder if it was Proud Republican thrown in jail for lying would they let her out of jail.
As Trump opens the country unemployment rises by 2... (show quote)


" At what point do the Trump supporters say to themselves I am backing the wrong guy. "

Why would they say such a stupid thing ?

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May 23, 2020 01:07:59   #
WEBCO
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Right. Less regulations should help.
Workers rights should go first.
Eliminate the minimum wage.
Abolish 40hr week.
End all environmental regulations.
Give the corporations all the money they want.
I should stop here. Their actions are always hidden in something else like kittens once looked into you find it means something else.
Would they ever try to take advantage of the pandemic to work in their favor only?


Yes less regulation does help, it's been proven over and over again. By the way Obamacare pretty much did away with the 40 hour work week, you do get that don't you?

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