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Apr 5, 2020 12:44:34   #
American Vet
 
What is the federal government’s role/responsibilities in national emergencies?

What is the federal government’s role/responsibility in ‘state’ emergencies?

What is the state government’s role/responsibility in state emergencies?

Your thoughts?

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Apr 5, 2020 15:24:30   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
American Vet wrote:
What is the federal government’s role/responsibilities in national emergencies?

What is the federal government’s role/responsibility in ‘state’ emergencies?

What is the state government’s role/responsibility in state emergencies?

Your thoughts?


The role of the fed is to stay the hell out of our business..............................until we want something.

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Apr 5, 2020 15:54:14   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
lpnmajor wrote:
The role of the fed is to stay the hell out of our business..............................until we want something.


Hmmmm.....is "want" the same as "need"?

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Apr 5, 2020 17:31:10   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
American Vet wrote:
What is the federal government’s role/responsibilities in national emergencies?

What is the federal government’s role/responsibility in ‘state’ emergencies?

What is the state government’s role/responsibility in state emergencies?

Your thoughts?


What is the federal government’s role/responsibilities in national emergencies?
>>>Role: More then they were prepared for in this p******c. Be constantly looking ahead for future possibilities and keeping reasonably prepared to cover the overall aspects of it.
To assist the States in a fair and even handed manner as possible, consistent with the State's own responsibility to also be responsible for itself. and not always be dependent on the Federal Government to bail out there lack of preparedness. (Example: lead in the attempts to find cures for the c****a v***s and provide the states for extraordinary high hospital costs, but expect the States to have adequate supplies on their own until more emergency supplies can come through the pipe line and be distributed on a controlled equitable basis)

What is the federal government’s role/responsibility in ‘state’ emergencies?
>>>Role/responsibility: Be ready to assist the individual States in unusual catastrophic emergencies. (Example: Assist in a one hundred year flood in Mississippi)

What is the state government’s role/responsibility in state emergencies? Be prepared for their own survival in all but the most extreme cases of state emergencies. (Example: Minnesota is responsible for plowing snow)

Your thoughts? There are great stories of people, companies and states ramping up to help in this crisis. There were also gross examples of the Federal Government, and the individual State governments not being prepared to being grossly unprepared as they moved their individual budget dollars to other areas instead of emergency equipment.

Hope that helps answer the questions proposed.

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Apr 5, 2020 18:30:37   #
American Vet
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
What is the federal government’s role/responsibilities in national emergencies?
>>>Role: More then they were prepared for in this p******c. Be constantly looking ahead for future possibilities and keeping reasonably prepared to cover the overall aspects of it.
To assist the States in a fair and even handed manner as possible, consistent with the State's own responsibility to also be responsible for itself. and not always be dependent on the Federal Government to bail out there lack of preparedness. (Example: lead in the attempts to find cures for the c****a v***s and provide the states for extraordinary high hospital costs, but expect the States to have adequate supplies on their own until more emergency supplies can come through the pipe line and be distributed on a controlled equitable basis)

What is the federal government’s role/responsibility in ‘state’ emergencies?
>>>Role/responsibility: Be ready to assist the individual States in unusual catastrophic emergencies. (Example: Assist in a one hundred year flood in Mississippi)

What is the state government’s role/responsibility in state emergencies? Be prepared for their own survival in all but the most extreme cases of state emergencies. (Example: Minnesota is responsible for plowing snow)

Your thoughts? There are great stories of people, companies and states ramping up to help in this crisis. There were also gross examples of the Federal Government, and the individual State governments not being prepared to being grossly unprepared as they moved their individual budget dollars to other areas instead of emergency equipment.

Hope that helps answer the questions proposed.
What is the federal government’s role/responsibili... (show quote)


Appreciate your response, with some very good points.

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Apr 6, 2020 06:46:57   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Searching wrote:
Hmmmm.....is "want" the same as "need"?


Wants are just that, nice to have.
Needs are just that, necessary.

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Apr 6, 2020 07:52:38   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
True, needs vs. wants, but the States may have different definitions of how they define them. Yes, I am nitpicking here. I'll take my 20 lashes with that wet noodle. It has been a very long time since I have been on OPP. I am rusty.

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Apr 6, 2020 15:10:15   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Searching wrote:
True, needs vs. wants, but the States may have different definitions of how they define them. Yes, I am nitpicking here. I'll take my 20 lashes with that wet noodle. It has been a very long time since I have been on OPP. I am rusty.


I'm particularly upset with my own Governor. He whines every day that the President doesn't honor his requests. Even though the President keeps sending Illinois various things requested. He is like a big baby who can't get everything he wants, when he wants it.

Of course he was born to a billionaire, always got what he wanted, got billions in inheritance and apparently never really made much if any, of that inheritance. But most of it is hidden off shore from our taxes.

Example: He asks for 5 million of something, even though the immediate needs are less then a million, gets a million and the complains that he didn't get the entire 5 million. And yet the state of Illinois was grossly unprepared and has the lowest credit rating in the nation and he wants to borrow more and tax more so his friends can get boon doggle jobs up the ying yang.

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Apr 6, 2020 18:25:48   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
I'm particularly upset with my own Governor. He whines every day that the President doesn't honor his requests. Even though the President keeps sending Illinois various things requested. He is like a big baby who can't get everything he wants, when he wants it.

Of course he was born to a billionaire, always got what he wanted, got billions in inheritance and apparently never really made much if any, of that inheritance. But most of it is hidden off shore from our taxes.

Example: He asks for 5 million of something, even though the immediate needs are less then a million, gets a million and the complains that he didn't get the entire 5 million. And yet the state of Illinois was grossly unprepared and has the lowest credit rating in the nation and he wants to borrow more and tax more so his friends can get boon doggle jobs up the ying yang.
I'm particularly upset with my own Governor. He wh... (show quote)


Wow....now that's what I call a sense of entitlement. I feel for you!! Has to be so galling!! Obviously, an awful lot of people, when he got elected, had not a clue as to what they were in for!! Is there no way to stop him?

While the Commonwealth of Virginia, when it comes to the rural areas (where I live) seem to be woefully behind the times in a lot of ways (love our gravel roads, I do), our latest Governor has really come through. We are blessed to have a governor who is a physician, has been to war, and takes a "can do" attitude. He doesn't sugarcoat, he gives three updates a week, that are clear and concise. No having to guess what he means, because he means what he says. When Trump initially said the states would have to take the lead, figure things out, he came out and said "fine", and proceeded to go in search of wh**ever he felt would be needed. He even outlined how he was going to do it. Our previous governor was much like yours, taxpayer monies somehow paying for some things that had to do with his daughter's wedding, among other things. He and his now ex-wife were really angry when the two of them ended up being tried in court for their abuses of power. It never ceases to amaze me, this 1%, how a great many of them have no concept of humanity at all, and feel, just like in "The Hunger Games", that they can do wh**ever they want with no consequences.

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Apr 6, 2020 20:30:35   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
We've now had four governors thrown in jail, although one was for crimes after he was thrown out of office. This one is more incompetent then criminal. But before he got in office, he bought the mansion next to his. Pulled out all of the toilets and then had it declared uninhabitable and tried to s**m several hundred dollars in tax breaks before it came out. He is a multimillionaire, (thanks to daddy) so he just paid it back so he could become Governor. In our state, the sleaze starts at the top and bottom and meets in the middle and we pray for the Federal attorneys to investigate and throw them in jail. And they just keep it up. And the Democrats keep v****g them in. Yeah, a few Reppublican too.

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Apr 7, 2020 10:35:02   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
We've now had four governors thrown in jail, although one was for crimes after he was thrown out of office. This one is more incompetent then criminal. But before he got in office, he bought the mansion next to his. Pulled out all of the toilets and then had it declared uninhabitable and tried to s**m several hundred dollars in tax breaks before it came out. He is a multimillionaire, (thanks to daddy) so he just paid it back so he could become Governor. In our state, the sleaze starts at the top and bottom and meets in the middle and we pray for the Federal attorneys to investigate and throw them in jail. And they just keep it up. And the Democrats keep v****g them in. Yeah, a few Reppublican too.
We've now had four governors thrown in jail, altho... (show quote)


Oh. My. Word!! Now, that's truly sad....4 to be thrown in jail. Even though your present governor is more incompetent than criminal, he appears to have just further aggravated the "condition" of your state all the others perpetuated in the first place!! You know....you made me smile with your last comment....trying to be "ecumenical" were you? Lovely breath of fresh air, that one. The world needs more people who work at objectivity, rather than give in to a total loyalty, whether it's a political party, or a belief. Nice to have met you!!

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Apr 7, 2020 14:14:00   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Searching wrote:
Oh. My. Word!! Now, that's truly sad....4 to be thrown in jail. Even though your present governor is more incompetent than criminal, he appears to have just further aggravated the "condition" of your state all the others perpetuated in the first place!! You know....you made me smile with your last comment....trying to be "ecumenical" were you? Lovely breath of fresh air, that one. The world needs more people who work at objectivity, rather than give in to a total loyalty, whether it's a political party, or a belief. Nice to have met you!!
Oh. My. Word!! Now, that's truly sad....4 to be t... (show quote)


It was three Democrat Governors and one Republican. Other offices are still more Democrat law breakers with the preponderance of Democrats in Chicago and the collar counties. But there definitely are soom Republicans in rural areas that aren't perfect by any means.

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Apr 7, 2020 16:39:46   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
It was three Democrat Governors and one Republican. Other offices are still more Democrat law breakers with the preponderance of Democrats in Chicago and the collar counties. But there definitely are soom Republicans in rural areas that aren't perfect by any means.


Ahhhh....."now", I understand what you meant. I have found that politicians, no matter what label they wear, are "flawed" human beings. I had a friend whose husband was a senator in their state's legislature. I once asked him if he thought there were any in politics that, even "if" they started out as "pure of heart", if they remained that way. He paused a bit, and said "sadly no, even if they hadn't gotten into politics for all the 'wrong' reasons, it was a slippery slope if they had passionate beliefs, that they would eventually trade favors, finding it easier and easier to do, blurring ethical lines." I liked the man. I didn't have the heart to ask the obvious....I live in rural, very rural Virginia, and most of the rural counties are Republican. I think with the exception of the last governor (a Republican) our state has fared well equally regardless of whether we've had a Republican or Democrat at the helm. It is unfortunate that you run into zealots in both parties, intent on destroying the other, forgetting their prime responsibility is to their constituents.

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Apr 7, 2020 17:12:37   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Searching wrote:
Ahhhh....."now", I understand what you meant. I have found that politicians, no matter what label they wear, are "flawed" human beings. I had a friend whose husband was a senator in their state's legislature. I once asked him if he thought there were any in politics that, even "if" they started out as "pure of heart", if they remained that way. He paused a bit, and said "sadly no, even if they hadn't gotten into politics for all the 'wrong' reasons, it was a slippery slope if they had passionate beliefs, that they would eventually trade favors, finding it easier and easier to do, blurring ethical lines." I liked the man. I didn't have the heart to ask the obvious....I live in rural, very rural Virginia, and most of the rural counties are Republican. I think with the exception of the last governor (a Republican) our state has fared well equally regardless of whether we've had a Republican or Democrat at the helm. It is unfortunate that you run into zealots in both parties, intent on destroying the other, forgetting their prime responsibility is to their constituents.
Ahhhh....."now", I understand what you m... (show quote)


What they never fail at it self gratifying.

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Apr 7, 2020 17:29:04   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
America 1 wrote:
What they never fail at it self gratifying.


Ain't that the t***h!! I'd like to think, but know it's not so, that "if only" we just v**ed them all out, started with "new ones", we'd have our solution to the morass we're in. Sadly, I don't think so. We all know what time it is.

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