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We Are Seeing Virtually No Information On Testing...Anything That Paints The Picture Statistically
Apr 2, 2020 16:28:14   #
woodguru
 
South Korea had daily and weekly updates, they were coordinating test results of a dozen or so labs, they were doing so many that they had tests being taken from roadside kiosks.

We are still using CDC controlled approvals for who to test, people with symptoms may not even be tested until they get worse. If it's obvious they have it a test may not be done, but is the positive case reported and added to the tally? No. Until testing has an availability that is perhaps a million tests a day we will not be tracing and tracking known exposures the way we should. All we are getting right now is a lackadaisical you were exposed so self quarantine until you know you don't have it. This is not good enough because of the numbers of people who can spread it without knowing they have it.

I think (it's obvious) testing has been kept suppressed so as to keep a control of the numbers and messaging. Massive money is being thrown at select huge labs trying to get them up to speed as opposed to opening up wide scale testing amongst easily a hundred or more labs.

The DOJ has a dozen big labs who could be doing testing that aren't because the CDC hasn't asked them to. There are big federally funded labs such as Los Alamos and Lawrence Livermore Labs, there are state labs that diagnose infectious diseases, there are highly sophisticated research and university labs.

Doesn't this ring a warning bell? This is not rocket science, other countries have been coming up to speed with the testing they need for their population sizes. Why isn't the greatest and most advanced country in the world able to do this? I can't tell if it's incompetence (rhymes with Pence), or the more likely corruption and wanting to kick hundreds of billions at a few select companies, and to control the numbers and messaging.

We are seeing states that are vastly under reporting cases, they are doing very limited testing, and there are already reports of skewing data by hospitals reporting deaths as pneumonia or other causes besides C***d even if that is technically true in a deviously underhanded manner.

Complete information on a daily basis on tests done daily, new cases reported, deaths, recoveries should be competently collected and reported. This is information for the public domain, and the only reason it's not is because of either hiding incompetence or corruption...or both

The administration is making a big deal about China incorrectly reporting data, well so are we. Accurate statistics on a state by state and region by region basis is super critical for assessing a number of trends, including the effectiveness of different proactive measures against areas that did nothing. It doesn't help us if we are being fed lower numbers so the states doing nothing look better than they are.

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Apr 2, 2020 16:34:44   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
woodguru wrote:
South Korea had daily and weekly updates, they were coordinating test results of a dozen or so labs, they were doing so many that they had tests being taken from roadside kiosks.

We are still using CDC controlled approvals for who to test, people with symptoms may not even be tested until they get worse. If it's obvious they have it a test may not be done, but is the positive case reported and added to the tally? No. Until testing has an availability that is perhaps a million tests a day we will not be tracing and tracking known exposures the way we should. All we are getting right now is a lackadaisical you were exposed so self quarantine until you know you don't have it. This is not good enough because of the numbers of people who can spread it without knowing they have it.

I think (it's obvious) testing has been kept suppressed so as to keep a control of the numbers and messaging. Massive money is being thrown at select huge labs trying to get them up to speed as opposed to opening up wide scale testing amongst easily a hundred or more labs.

The DOJ has a dozen big labs who could be doing testing that aren't because the CDC hasn't asked them to. There are big federally funded labs such as Los Alamos and Lawrence Livermore Labs, there are state labs that diagnose infectious diseases, there are highly sophisticated research and university labs.

Doesn't this ring a warning bell? This is not rocket science, other countries have been coming up to speed with the testing they need for their population sizes. Why isn't the greatest and most advanced country in the world able to do this? I can't tell if it's incompetence (rhymes with Pence), or the more likely corruption and wanting to kick hundreds of billions at a few select companies, and to control the numbers and messaging.

We are seeing states that are vastly under reporting cases, they are doing very limited testing, and there are already reports of skewing data by hospitals reporting deaths as pneumonia or other causes besides C***d even if that is technically true in a deviously underhanded manner.

Complete information on a daily basis on tests done daily, new cases reported, deaths, recoveries should be competently collected and reported. This is information for the public domain, and the only reason it's not is because of either hiding incompetence or corruption...or both

The administration is making a big deal about China incorrectly reporting data, well so are we. Accurate statistics on a state by state and region by region basis is super critical for assessing a number of trends, including the effectiveness of different proactive measures against areas that did nothing. It doesn't help us if we are being fed lower numbers so the states doing nothing look better than they are.
South Korea had daily and weekly updates, they wer... (show quote)



Wood, it all depends what you want to test for, and how accurate the tests actually are. Check out the following video and written article that the video was based upon. If you want to test for any C***d v***s that has been around for years, then what purpose does testing actually serve?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR1DfKX4TxPcYQbzx4-fKt-H1m8YDJsT7TZu7xs5nZ10dYH2GoV5d1DhTH0&v=BvLx17NNlu0&app=desktop

https://www.globalresearch.ca/manufactured-p******c-testing-people-any-strain-c****av***s-not-specifically-c****-**/5707781

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Apr 2, 2020 17:53:09   #
woodguru
 
ACP45 wrote:
Wood, it all depends what you want to test for, and how accurate the tests actually are. Check out the following video and written article that the video was based upon. If you want to test for any C***d v***s that has been around for years, then what purpose does testing actually serve?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR1DfKX4TxPcYQbzx4-fKt-H1m8YDJsT7TZu7xs5nZ10dYH2GoV5d1DhTH0&v=BvLx17NNlu0&app=desktop

https://www.globalresearch.ca/manufactured-p******c-testing-people-any-strain-c****av***s-not-specifically-c****-**/5707781
Wood, it all depends what you want to test for, an... (show quote)


My wife was the executive director for a firm that creates v*****es and identifies and grows specific baccilus strains. I ran this by her and she thinks the author is taking liberties and putting a spin on incorrect premises. They sound good to a layman but they are faulty, there is a reason this guy wants to stay anonymous. Part of the holdup on c****av***s testing is that controls have to be used to identify positives, false positives, negatives, and false negatives. The CDC was asking the lab up in Seattle to do control testing on their tests for that reason.

My wife has to deal with one of the most insidious v***ses in the bird world and three labs that have different levels of reliability based on different percentages of false positives and false negatives. This thing can be in an asymptomatic bird and be spreading it for 25 years. You figure it out when your breeder operation starts losing 30% of it's babies, and juveniles start dropping like flies over the next few weeks or years. Then you can have ones that never show any signs but are carriers all their lives. There are times she gets what she suspects is a false negative so she sends a test out to another company that has a higher accuracy for the flip side of that, it gets weirdly complicated. Part of the process of control is getting reliable positives on cases you know you are dealing with C***d.

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Apr 3, 2020 05:49:30   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
woodguru wrote:
My wife was the executive director for a firm that creates v*****es and identifies and grows specific baccilus strains. I ran this by her and she thinks the author is taking liberties and putting a spin on incorrect premises. They sound good to a layman but they are faulty, there is a reason this guy wants to stay anonymous. Part of the holdup on c****av***s testing is that controls have to be used to identify positives, false positives, negatives, and false negatives. The CDC was asking the lab up in Seattle to do control testing on their tests for that reason.

My wife has to deal with one of the most insidious v***ses in the bird world and three labs that have different levels of reliability based on different percentages of false positives and false negatives. This thing can be in an asymptomatic bird and be spreading it for 25 years. You figure it out when your breeder operation starts losing 30% of it's babies, and juveniles start dropping like flies over the next few weeks or years. Then you can have ones that never show any signs but are carriers all their lives. There are times she gets what she suspects is a false negative so she sends a test out to another company that has a higher accuracy for the flip side of that, it gets weirdly complicated. Part of the process of control is getting reliable positives on cases you know you are dealing with C***d.
My wife was the executive director for a firm that... (show quote)


Thanks for the explanation. Very interesting,... and for a non-scientist, difficult to know what to believe.

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