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Mar 25, 2020 20:22:26   #
roy
 
Realistic wrote:
there not loans, and do not have a payback time frame
just cause fox news says it don't make it the truth


Are 4 republicans fixing to derail this bill?say it ain't so,what will they want from trump?I do agree with them though about their unemployment stance,But they have to understand this is an election year,or none of this whole bail out stuff would be happening anyway.I do remember the depression of 2008,when so many people where laid off their state unemployment was running out and republicans were balking at using federal money to extendING unemployment.My how times have changed,now they want to give people that just got out work more than they would make on their job.But it is an election year,

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Mar 26, 2020 09:35:27   #
peg w
 
Giving money away to big businesses with ridiculous loosey goosey constrains. A good idea? That was in the bill yesterday.
Why should people be required to have 3 mounths of savings when big budiness need a relief package now?.

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Mar 26, 2020 09:43:59   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
peg w wrote:
Giving money away to big businesses with ridiculous loosey goosey constrains. A good idea? That was in the bill yesterday.
Why should people be required to have 3 mounths of savings when big budiness need a relief package now?.


Wow Peg, let’s allow business to go under and then you can create new jobs out of thin air.

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Mar 26, 2020 17:49:37   #
grandaddy1946 Loc: Florida
 
What are you talk about ?

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Mar 26, 2020 18:53:44   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Geo wrote:
As usual the Dems are working for the People and the Repubs are working for the wealthy.

How the House Democrats' stimulus plan compares to the Senate's
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi unveiled her bill, offering some distinct contrasts to the GOP version in the Senate.

By CAITLIN EMMA and JENNIFER SCHOLTES

03/23/2020 08:04 PM EDT

Updated: 03/24/2020 11:14 AM EDT


Democrats are following through on their threat to go rogue with their own stimulus plan, unveiling a more than 1,400-page bill Monday night, packed with policy differences compared to the proposal Senate Republicans laid out.

After the GOP’s latest measure tanked twice during test votes in the Senate, House Democrats wrote a competing proposal to save the country from economic destruction at the hands of the coronavirus. The House measure would boost emergency funds for agencies, mandate "green" rules for airlines, eliminate a payroll tax suspension, kick in additional help for hospitals, schools and food banks, and more.


Here's what House Democrats have included in their bill and how it contrasts with the latest proposal from Senate Republicans:


Bigger cash payments to Americans
Democrats want to further plump the direct payments that would go out to Americans under the bill, proposing $1,500 per person, instead of the $1,200 on the table under the Senate measure laid out Sunday. Unlike the latest plan from Senate Republicans, however, higher earners would have to pay back part or all of the assistance over three years if their taxable income is $75,000 or more for a single filer or $150,000 or more for couples filing jointly. The money would be available to anyone with a tax ID number, and to retirees and people who are unemployed, rather than just to people who file taxes for 2019 or get Social Security.

More help to hospitals
Health care providers and community health centers would receive about $150 billion, while hospitals would get an additional $80 billion in low-interest loans. The proposal is more in line with industry requests, compared to the $75 billion Senate Republicans have offered. The House bill would also waive treatment costs, abandon certain barriers to accessing medicines and provide safety protections for health workers.

Expanding unemployment, paid sick leave
The unemployed would get an extra $600 per week on top of state or federal benefits in order to replace 100 percent of lost wages. The measure would also extend paid sick leave benefits to cover individuals, such as health care workers and first responders, who were cut out of Congress’ second coronavirus response.

House Democrats want to go much bigger in sending emergency money to federal agencies, proposing hundreds of billions more than the $242 billion Senate Republicans have pitched, according to a Democratic aide. The White House, meanwhile, has made a narrowly tailored request for $46 billion.

‘Green’ rules for airlines
If airlines are going to get billions of dollars in loans under the bill, Democrats say they need to cut their carbon emissions in half by 2050. The House’s measure would also kick in $1 billion to help develop sustainable fuels for planes and create a program for the government to buy less-efficient aircraft, à la “cash-for-clunkers.”

Tax plans from different planets
The two stimulus drafts emerging from both chambers present markedly different stimulus tax plans, with House Democrats omitting the payroll tax suspension included in the Senate GOP bill. The Democratic plan would also expand health insurance premium tax credits under the Affordable Care Act and beef up the Earned Income Tax Credit, the Child Tax Credit and the Dependent Care Credit.


Taxpayers could make early withdrawals from their retirement funds without having to pay the usual 10 percent penalty during the coronavirus crisis, and required minimum withdrawals would be suspended for 2020. Health insurance premium tax credits under the Affordable Care Act would be expanded.

Saving the Postal Service
Warning that fallout from the coronavirus could destroy the U.S. Postal Service by June, House Democrats have included $25 billion in emergency funding to keep mail service going, plus language that would wipe out the federal carrier’s current $11 billion debt. The bill would also force the mail service to prioritize medical deliveries.

Laying on the lobbying restrictions
The House bill goes much further than the Senate measure when it comes to limiting executive pay and stock buybacks, as well as imposing lobbying restrictions. For example, the House package would bar such corporations from lobbying the federal government — a move sure to arouse anger on K Street among Democratic and Republican lobbyists alike.

Business tax relief
Companies would get credits against payroll taxes for giving employees any kind of sick or family medical leave, not just for coronavirus-related reasons.

Businesses would get to deduct losses from this year, last year and 2018 from their taxes for any of the last five years. The Senate bill includes a similar “carry back” provision. The House did not include provisions allowing faster write-offs for restaurant and retail business investments or bigger deductions for business interest, both of which are in the Senate bill.

Aid for airlines
Airlines would receive about $40 billion in grants through the House package, as well as up to $21 billion for unsecured loans and loan guarantees for a total of $61 billion in aid. Senate Republicans have proposed $58 billion in loans and guarantees, plus a holiday from paying fuel tax.

Smaller increase for the Pentagon
House Democrats would give the Defense Department an $8 billion emergency boost, including $500 million for purchases made under the Defense Production Act. The Senate GOP bill would provide the Pentagon with a $10 billion hike.

Extra aid for small businesses
Democrats are pitching $500 billion in grants and interest-free loans to small businesses, including $300 billion in forgivable loans to cover short-term payroll costs. That compares to $300 billion in loans for small businesses in the Senate bill.

Outlawing internet cutoffs
While hundreds of internet providers have already promised they will not cut off service to households and small businesses while the coronavirus rages, the bill would ensure it’s illegal to do so.

Further action from the Fed
Consumer debt payments would be suspended and the Federal Reserve would have to establish a program to reimburse creditors for lost revenue. The central bank would also have to support state and local bond markets, in addition to providing direct loans to small businesses.

Flush with food assistance
The bill includes an extra $450 million boost to food banks, as well as whatever funds are “necessary” to account for more people in need of food stamps. Senate Republicans had proposed about $15.6 billion in food stamp assistance.

Rewarding nonprofits
Hospitals would qualify for tax credits for charity care they provide and for creating or expanding facilities to handle the coronavirus patient load. Governmental employers, including public universities, would get tax credits for mandated worker leave due to the coronavirus.

Penalizing price-gougers
The FTC and top lawyers at the state level would get more power to go after people and companies that price-gouge during the pandemic.

Keeping utilities on
Besides spending $1.5 billion to help low-income households pay water bills, the House legislation would ban utility providers from cutting off service during the crisis.

Doubling up on education cash
Democrats are calling for $60 billion in emergency assistance to go out for education initiatives, about three times the amount the Senate bill contains. That total includes $30 billion to help K-12 schools, as well as $10 billion for colleges and universities.

Saving the T-band for first responders
By doing away with a mandate that the FCC sell off the T-band, the plan Democrats are pushing would make winners out of first responders in the ongoing fight over auctioning the spectrum they use for emergency communications.

Liz Crampton, Michael Stratford, Heather Caygle, John Hendel, Cristiano Lima, Theo Meyer, Aaron Lorenzo, Brian Faler, Anthony Adragna, Eric Wolff, Zachary Warmbrodt and Rebecca Rainey contributed to this report.
As usual the Dems are working for the People and t... (show quote)


So, where’s my check?

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Mar 26, 2020 18:59:25   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
jimpack123 wrote:
Sounds like a Trump plan


The absolute nerve of these democrats.should we tell them that these republicans are totally against democracy and want their share to go to the upper 10%
The nerve of these democrats making sure everybody gets a fair shake.
I think trump voters should be excluded all things considered.

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Mar 26, 2020 19:02:52   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
im Glad the the trumps and Kurchners have been excluded.
That crap kurchner pulled last time was inexcusable.

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Mar 26, 2020 19:08:47   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
amadjuster wrote:
Don’t confuse Kevyn with facts. It hurts his little pointy head.


Trump likes that place. He had such good memories of that place.
Maybe he has more medals to give out.

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Mar 26, 2020 19:11:30   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
maryla wrote:
ABSOLUTELY!! Never will they be able to give any kind of praise to our great leader. It is disappointing that they will not look past partisan politics!

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Mar 26, 2020 22:53:45   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Trump likes that place. He had such good memories of that place.
Maybe he has more medals to give out.


Knock knock, is anyone home?

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Mar 28, 2020 11:23:34   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Big dog wrote:
We are hostages being held by the democrats.

Oh crikey!
What were you when Republicans held house senate and president?
.......

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Mar 28, 2020 11:31:01   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
77Reaganite wrote:
Communists and traitors! Need I say more that's what the Democrats truly are


Name a Democrat who has cuddled up with Russia more than trump?
Name one who has had secret meetings with trump in your whitehouse? With no press allowed?
Name one who has embraced more Dictators than trump?
Looks like you’re on shaky ground with that one!!!

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Mar 28, 2020 11:42:55   #
American Vet
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Name a Democrat who has cuddled up with Russia more than trump?
Name one who has had secret meetings with trump in your whitehouse? With no press allowed?
Name one who has embraced more Dictators than trump?
Looks like you’re on shaky ground with that one!!!


Russia!!! Russia!!!! Russia!!!!!



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Mar 28, 2020 12:06:55   #
1ProudAmerican
 
rafterman wrote:
For those of you who do not know what the Dems are requiring, here's a partial list:
• eliminate debt held by the U.S. Postal Service,
• require same-day voter registration,
• pay off $10,000 in student debt per person,
• mandate that airlines reduce their overall carbon emissions by 50 percent by 2050, and
• force federal agencies to explain to Congress how they are increasing their usage of “minority banks” http://click1.srnemail.com/lwzhjnffjldrllcfrddymrqlsjrwnsslknycskdknqkjdg_zspllbrzlfrmkrsdszbzbzz.html

• Requires a labor union representative on every airline’s board of directors. Multiemployer pension bailout lacking needed reforms.
• Permanently raises the minimum wage to $15 for any business that receives federal aid for COVID-19 http://click1.srnemail.com/clmmclkkcsgfsszkfggntfqsvcfjlvvsdlnzvdgdlqdcgg_zspllbrzlfrmkrsdszbzbzz.html

It also includes a gift of “$35 million to the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts” http://click1.srnemail.com/vgmyhgqqhckncczqnkktfnmcdhnjgddcvgtzdvkvgmvhkh_zspllbrzlfrmkrsdszbzbzz.html

A must-watch passionate teardown of the horrible Democratic bill and the people who put it forth, from U.S. Senator and Dr. John Barrasso (Twitter). http://click1.srnemail.com/cpqmclkkcsgfsszkfggntfqsvcfjlvvsdlnzvdgdlqdccg_zspllbrzlfrmkrsdszbzbzz.html

From Ted Cruz: “One of the reasons I think Senate Democrats are so willing to engage in this is that they expect the media to be utterly complicit in their cynical gamesmanship” (Twitter). http://click1.srnemail.com/qfpdgfjjgcvtccrjtvvbmthcygtpfyycwfbrywvwfhwgvf_zspllbrzlfrmkrsdszbzbzz.html

From another story: House Majority Whip James Clyburn, South Carolina Democrat, reportedly said last week, “This is a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision”(Washington Times). http://click1.srnemail.com/tccpvcddvtbkttrdkbbglkjtsvkmcsstzcgrszbzcjzvbm_zspllbrzlfrmkrsdszbzbzz.html

From the Wall Street Journal editorial board: Do Democrats even care? It isn’t obvious as they pander to their progressive base to make last-minute demands while blocking the rescue cash. The political chronology is instructive—and depressing about the state of Democratic leadership (WSJ). http://click1.srnemail.com/vghyhgqqhckncczqnkktfnmcdhnjgddcvgtzdvkvgmvhkm_zspllbrzlfrmkrsdszbzbzz.html

From Brit Hume: Holding the bill hostage to the unrelated wishlist items Democrats are trying to stuff into it is the most cynical thing I’ve seen since the character assassination of Brett Kavanaugh(Twitter).
http://click1.srnemail.com/olkqwlccwpkdppncdkkvtdmpswdrlsspzlvnszkzlmzwkq_zspllbrzlfrmkrsdszbzbzz.html

From Mark Hemingway: What I don’t understand about what happened with the legislation today it’s going to be used, likely with some success, against congressional Dems in the fall. It seems like an obvious political blunder and they’re oblivious (Twitter). http://click1.srnemail.com/qvwdgfjjgcvtccrjtvvbmthcygtpfyycwfbrywvwfhwggn_zspllbrzlfrmkrsdszbzbzz.html
For those of you who do not know what the Dems are... (show quote)


Yep, for the DemonRats it's ALWAYS better to do these things than buy respirators to keep people alive.

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Mar 28, 2020 12:13:44   #
1ProudAmerican
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Name a Democrat who has cuddled up with Russia more than trump?
Name one who has had secret meetings with trump in your whitehouse? With no press allowed?
Name one who has embraced more Dictators than trump?
Looks like you’re on shaky ground with that one!!!


Name a Democrat who has cuddled up with Russia more than trump?
*****Remember the Russian lacky OBAMA told, "Go tell your boss I'll be in a better position to deal after this election....

Name one who has had secret meetings with trump in your whitehouse? With no press allowed?
*****Obama

Name one who has embraced more Dictators than trump?
*****Remember all the world dictators Obama bowed to and kissed their @$$e$.

Looks like YOU’re on shaky ground with that one!!!

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