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Mar 28, 2020 11:11:04   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
saltwind78 wrote:
Yes, and listening to Trump means that we are stupid!


Maybe you could listen to some past Obama quips, knowing that he gave money to Iran for the purpose of murdering Jews.

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Mar 28, 2020 11:18:27   #
saltwind78
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I'm 75 years old too.
Why are you a kommiecrat if you are not a socialist/c****e?
I was politically neutral until the Democrats cheered with Islam when the towers came down.
I promptly became a conservative, then, after Obama, a Trump patriot.


I certainly never cheered when the towers fell. Like others that came from NYC, I was grieved and was angered by this treacherous attack. It may interest you to know that radicle Islam h**es c*******m even more than democracy, because it is atheist. C*******m is dead. It just didn't work. Democratic socialism of the Bernie variety is not the kind of Marxist ideology as the Soviet or Chinese variety. Democratic socialism , which is the kind of socialism they have in Europe is democratic. They leave power when defeated in e******ns. They do not believe in violent revolution, and are against authoritarianism. Personally, I'm not a fan of this type of socialism, or any other kind. I remember a joke about socialism, when Israel was a socialist country. How do you make a small fortune in Israel? Go there with a large fortune. The old style Marxists considered democratic socialism as treason to the working class.

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Mar 28, 2020 12:34:54   #
Mikeyavelli
 
saltwind78 wrote:
Yes, and listening to Trump means that we are stupid!


Trump has never been wrong. 🙂

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Mar 28, 2020 14:54:22   #
DM
 
saltwind78: Sorry Buddy...we are not stupid for backing Trump and if you think that either of the up and coming
clowns to oppose him in the next e******n have a minute chance to give him a run for his money...I got
BIG news for you. He is conquering this h**eful v***s that has consumed our world...not just the US but
the world. He's got people from all over the world working together and that (in my opinion) how he
won the e******n. Debating "the woman from HELL"...the world saw and knew he had a heck of a lot
more on the ball and probably did a lot behind he scene investigating what he had done and how now KNOW
he takes any challenge head on..."Russia, Russia, Russia" didn't faze him, Obstruction didn't get him...
impeachment didn't get him...all the lies and innuendos of the i***ts in Congress that oppose him haven't
fazed him...Watch his send off the RED CROSS SHIP to New York and it was done in 4 days instead of 4 weeks as he did with something in New York long before being President and he people know he knows
HOW to get things done. You bet I TOO don't think he is either a Republican or a Democrat as someone in
this website said...He is a PRAGMATIST WHO WANTS THINGS DONE. When his next term is done, all
you who bash him will watch the next person not do so well. Donald Trump is far from stupid.....Mr.
saltwind78....very far from stupid and don't you WISH YOU WERE HALF AS STUPID!

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Mar 28, 2020 14:57:01   #
saltwind78
 
saltwind78 wrote:
Yes, and listening to Trump means that we are stupid!


Big Dog, You said it, not me.

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Mar 28, 2020 15:10:29   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
DM wrote:
saltwind78: Sorry Buddy...we are not stupid for backing Trump and if you think that either of the up and coming
clowns to oppose him in the next e******n have a minute chance to give him a run for his money...I got
BIG news for you. He is conquering this h**eful v***s that has consumed our world...not just the US but
the world. He's got people from all over the world working together and that (in my opinion) how he
won the e******n. Debating "the woman from HELL"...the world saw and knew he had a heck of a lot
more on the ball and probably did a lot behind he scene investigating what he had done and how now KNOW
he takes any challenge head on..."Russia, Russia, Russia" didn't faze him, Obstruction didn't get him...
impeachment didn't get him...all the lies and innuendos of the i***ts in Congress that oppose him haven't
fazed him...Watch his send off the RED CROSS SHIP to New York and it was done in 4 days instead of 4 weeks as he did with something in New York long before being President and he people know he knows
HOW to get things done. You bet I TOO don't think he is either a Republican or a Democrat as someone in
this website said...He is a PRAGMATIST WHO WANTS THINGS DONE. When his next term is done, all
you who bash him will watch the next person not do so well. Donald Trump is far from stupid.....Mr.
saltwind78....very far from stupid and don't you WISH YOU WERE HALF AS STUPID!
saltwind78: Sorry Buddy...we are not stupid for ba... (show quote)




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Mar 29, 2020 11:37:22   #
saltwind78
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I'm 75 years old too.
Why are you a kommiecrat if you are not a socialist/c****e?
I was politically neutral until the Democrats cheered with Islam when the towers came down.
I promptly became a conservative, then, after Obama, a Trump patriot.


AS I explained, C*******m and liberalism have nothing in common. C*******m is a revolutionary movement, liberalism is a reform movement. C*******m seeks an end to free enterprise, liberalism embraces free enterprise. C*******m started out as the movement of working people, liberalism actually started out an the ideology of the " new " factory owning class of the industrial revolution. C*******m is a one party system, liberalism encourages a multi party system, C*******m doesn't recognize individual liberty, liberalism is built upon individual liberty, C*******m is authoritarian, liberalism is democratic.
Conservatism is the ideology of the status quo. It started out as the ideology of the aristocracy of old Europe, It believes in no or very slow change in society, whether that society is c*******m as it existed in the Soviet Union, or government by a landed aristocracy or even a constitutional republic. C*******m is dead. It failed miserably. Even those countries that still call themselves c*******t, now have much in common with capitalism. Its just an excuse to keep the people that make up the party to keep power.

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Mar 29, 2020 11:59:55   #
DM
 
saltwind78: Great explanations...will devour it. Thanks.

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Mar 29, 2020 13:38:17   #
Mikeyavelli
 
saltwind78 wrote:
AS I explained, C*******m and liberalism have nothing in common. C*******m is a revolutionary movement, liberalism is a reform movement. C*******m seeks an end to free enterprise, liberalism embraces free enterprise. C*******m started out as the movement of working people, liberalism actually started out an the ideology of the " new " factory owning class of the industrial revolution. C*******m is a one party system, liberalism encourages a multi party system, C*******m doesn't recognize individual liberty, liberalism is built upon individual liberty, C*******m is authoritarian, liberalism is democratic.
Conservatism is the ideology of the status quo. It started out as the ideology of the aristocracy of old Europe, It believes in no or very slow change in society, whether that society is c*******m as it existed in the Soviet Union, or government by a landed aristocracy or even a constitutional republic. C*******m is dead. It failed miserably. Even those countries that still call themselves c*******t, now have much in common with capitalism. Its just an excuse to keep the people that make up the party to keep power.
AS I explained, C*******m and liberalism have noth... (show quote)


So dusting off C*******m and calling it liberalism will make the elite leaders of the politburo respect the will of the majority and distribute goods and services as they see fit. Two classes; ruling and proletariat. And everyone is happy wearing the same uniform and eating from the same trough and adoring only the rulers. Same game, different name. Kommiecrat or liberal, depends on what side you're on. Karl Marx will be proud of you.

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Mar 29, 2020 16:25:10   #
Mikeyavelli
 
saltwind78 wrote:
AS I explained, C*******m and liberalism have nothing in common. C*******m is a revolutionary movement, liberalism is a reform movement. C*******m seeks an end to free enterprise, liberalism embraces free enterprise. C*******m started out as the movement of working people, liberalism actually started out an the ideology of the " new " factory owning class of the industrial revolution. C*******m is a one party system, liberalism encourages a multi party system, C*******m doesn't recognize individual liberty, liberalism is built upon individual liberty, C*******m is authoritarian, liberalism is democratic.
Conservatism is the ideology of the status quo. It started out as the ideology of the aristocracy of old Europe, It believes in no or very slow change in society, whether that society is c*******m as it existed in the Soviet Union, or government by a landed aristocracy or even a constitutional republic. C*******m is dead. It failed miserably. Even those countries that still call themselves c*******t, now have much in common with capitalism. Its just an excuse to keep the people that make up the party to keep power.
AS I explained, C*******m and liberalism have noth... (show quote)


Long way to go to end up at the same place. Socialism =C*******m = Democratic Party

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