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Mar 28, 2020 01:16:20   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
straightUp wrote:
Like what?


Rant on and on, weak attempt trying to prove your point.

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Mar 28, 2020 01:31:09   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
straightUp wrote:
Yeah, that's just sounds like right-wing propaganda. I'm not even going to bother with it.


You should never piss into the wind. Especially in a pissing contest with another.

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Mar 28, 2020 07:50:41   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
America 1 wrote:
Rant on and on, weak attempt trying to prove your point.

Too scared to be any more specific A1? - LOL

Look, I know there's no proving points to the dogmatic and the illiterate. It doesn't matter if it's Muslim Extremists in the Middle-East or wound-up deplorables in America, it's the same basic mix of illiteracy, dogma and emotions that no logic can ever penetrate. But then again, there are so many other reasons for doing what I do. In fact I should really be thanking you folks.

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Mar 28, 2020 07:51:46   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
dtucker300 wrote:
You should never piss into the wind. Especially in a pissing contest with another.

Well, I could have told you that... I hope you didn't get a disease from it. ;)

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Mar 28, 2020 08:02:57   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
straightUp wrote:
Well, I could have told you that... I hope you didn't get a disease from it.


Good example.

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Mar 28, 2020 08:24:05   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
dtucker300 wrote:
I apologize if you interpreted my comment as saying YOU don't believe in God. That was not my intention. I was using the collective "you" in my statement to refer generally to anyone who is an atheist.

Well, I appreciate the apology and I get the "collective" context, but it seems ill-placed in a conversation with someone who isn't an atheist.

dtucker300 wrote:

I don't believe I have ever even intimated that it is up to God to decide who is good (or evil). Don't know where you came up with that one. I'll concede that I may have said something snarky which came off sounding this way. I do that a lot.

Eh, we all do... And I might have confused your response with someone else. I do that sometimes.

dtucker300 wrote:

I don't necessarily believe people inherently know what is good and evil. They have to be taught. However, I do believe some children, at a very early age, show altruistic characteristics just as some children show psychopathic tendencies.

Fair point. My wife and I raised two children and maybe we were lucky but they both seemed to understand right and wrong without much effort from us. I also used to coach youth sports and the problematic kids always seemed to be the exception to the norm and more times than not when I met the parents I would understand why.

dtucker300 wrote:

Maybe they do inherently know and they just choose to ignore societal conventions. How long did your parents keep reminding you to say "thank you" to people before you remembered to do it on your own?

I honestly don't remember... LOL

I think saying "thank you" is different though... Social conventions are about language and protocol and yes, people need to be educated about them. But how to we equate that to 'good' when murderous dictators will still say "thank you" when someone brings them tea?

I was referring to a more primitive level, based on interactions like crying or hugging or hitting or sharing. For instance, I think most kids inherently know there is something wrong with making other kids cry. We can even see this to some extent in the animal kingdom.

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Mar 28, 2020 08:31:04   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Milosia wrote:
Can you find the list of people excluded from any stimulus cash!

I know *I* am.

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Mar 28, 2020 08:56:32   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
I got side-tracked with a religion dispute... Some good points here though...

Barracuda2020 wrote:
I'd have to agree with those percentages. Like you also, I've gotten tired of the diatribe from the extreme right which seems to be spreading in their party. I used to passionately support the unity of the country, now I'm ready to draw a dividing line and have both go to our respective corners and be done with it. We would see how things would out with for the people with these two opposing beliefs on how to run a country and see who will be happeir in the end.

Exactly! I don't think it serves anyone to be forced into this union that constantly oscillates between opposite agendas. We never get a chance to prove or disprove anything.

t***hiness wrote:

Interesting thought: The Divided States of America--the Rednecks and the Bluenecks
1) How would you divide the land and resources so that each got an equal share of land, coast, resources, and debt?

I would suggest we don't. It was never a concern when the states were drawn up. People need to learn to deal with what they have and if they want something they don't have then make some deals with people who do.

t***hiness wrote:

2) What would the constitutions of each section contain?

I would leave that up to the people in those "sections".

JFlorio wrote:
How about we fight over it?

That probably wouldn't work out so well for the rednecks as they are massively outnumbered, considerably under-funded and basically surrounded.

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Mar 28, 2020 09:18:53   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Oh yeah, getting back to the original point of the post... It looks like the "stimulus" bill, passed. I hope it helps.

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Mar 28, 2020 10:06:19   #
Cuda2020
 
t***hiness wrote:
...
Interesting thought: The Divided States of America--the Rednecks and the Bluenecks
1) How would you divide the land and resources so that each got an equal share of land, coast, resources, and debt?
2) What would the constitutions of each section contain?


That would be up to them.

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Mar 28, 2020 10:07:28   #
Cuda2020
 
[quote=JFlorio]How about we fight over it?[quote=t***hiness]...
Interesting thought: The Divided States of America--the Rednecks and the Bluenecks
1) How would you divide the land and resources so that each got an equal share of land, coast, resources, and debt?
2) What would the constitutions of each section contain?[/quote[/quote]

Fight over it...There's a predictable and evolved thought.

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Mar 28, 2020 10:14:33   #
Cuda2020
 
lindajoy wrote:
Well she’s ticked off enough of her own party that they may be redistricting her area to take her out.. This may just solidify that move..

Yes, extremely stupid, then again she’s proven that already~~


Listen to Pels saying v**e will go forward today~~~ we’ll see, I believe none of them..

https://www.c-span.org/video/?470680-2/washington-journal-news-headlines-viewer-calls&start=62


Well, I see you're for gerrymandering manipulations, an undeniable form of corruption.

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Mar 28, 2020 10:22:03   #
Cuda2020
 
straightUp wrote:
Me - "are you actually calling him?"
God - "shhh!"
ring, ring...
Devil - "Hello?"
God - "Hi this is Amazon Prime, there's a problem with a delivery... someone who logs on OPP as tbutkovich"
Devil - "Yeah, WTF?"
God - "It seems he cast the Bible aside and switched his brain on, so..."
Devil - "That's BS!!! He's mine! Hook line and sinker!"
God - "Well, if you hold I can connect you to the false profit help desk."
Devil - "NOOOO!"
click
Me - ha, ha, ha!
God - "'drives him nuts."

True Story - if you don't believe it you will burn in hell. ;)
Me - "are you actually calling him?" br ... (show quote)


Loven it!

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Mar 28, 2020 11:03:17   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
As I explained before my comment was “ tongue and cheek”. Wouldn’t be rednecks, anyway. Conservatives versus liberals. Rednecks would be the shock Troops.


straightUp wrote:
I got side-tracked with a religion dispute... Some good points here though...


That probably wouldn't work out so well for the rednecks as they are massively outnumbered, considerably under-funded and basically surrounded.

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Mar 28, 2020 11:36:47   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Well, I see you're for gerrymandering manipulations, an undeniable form of corruption.


Uhm, it was Your people that said they were going to make her a one term seat not I or even the repubs~~
The talk has been going on for some time now ...

As for gerrymandering which both sides do and have done for decades, I personally do not care for it, because the politicians have abused it so much, but I do stand by the ruling in 1964 where the Supreme Court ruled that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution requires that v****g districts be equal in population. ( reminds you of the need for the e*******l college doesn’t it)

While the US Supreme Court has ruled that redistricting that discriminates on racial or ethnic grounds is unconstitutional, it has been reluctant to issue a similarly-strong ruling for partisan redistricting. The Court has ruled that excessive partisan gerrymandering violates the Constitution.

Section 2 of the V****g Rights Act is a nationwide prohibition against v****g practices and procedures, (including redistricting plans) that discriminate on the basis of race, color or membership in a language minority group...

But it stops right there because of the 1964 decision.. and it stops right there with our elected who Wait for the opportunity in redistricting every ten years..

They (your people) will show soon enough when redistricting is done...assuming they win to begin with of course..

https://thegreggjarrett.com/yikes-ocasio-cortez-giving-money-to-progressives-so-she-is-less-lonely-in-congress/


https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/02/23/aocs-war-on-fellow-democrats-likely-to-eliminate-her-house-seat/amp/

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