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Mar 25, 2020 16:53:43   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
straightUp wrote:
Yes... the U.S. is too big. The "one-size fits all" isn't working. Show me any country our size or bigger, with our level of diversity and I'll show you a failure to represent the people. China, India, USA, Indonesia... They're all too big.

The U.S. should break up into smaller sovereign nations to give people better representation. There are only two problems that stand in the way...

1. The ruling class likes the control they have over a 300 million people.
2. The American people don't have the guts to separate.
Yes... the U.S. is too big. The "one-size fit... (show quote)


There is no country bigger nor smaller with our level of diversity. No need to break up the country. Just break up the Democratic party into the groups they represent that they currently promise to protect from the other groups they represent.

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Mar 25, 2020 17:49:43   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Tug484 wrote:
Man made bio weapon.


It is certainly possible since there is just such a research center in W***n. But we have no way of discerning this from the mainstream media.

The socialists have a long sordid history of forcing public dependency after crisis they themselves have either orchestrated, or sat in silence letting trouble fester for decades, in a deliberate scheme of treatment by neglect - - - and then offered socialized medicine as the antidote!

The typhus p******c of 23 million people stretched across Russia during the Bolshevik Revolution eventually drawing the assistance of the International Red Cross. You can look that up in the League of Nations Relief and Rehabilitation records.

The syphilis p******c of the Great Depression under Franklin Delano Roosevelt's infamous Surgeon General Dr. Thomas Parran began secret experiments on the uninformed, unwitting Tuskegee Black residents of Alabama in 1935. The Public Health Service continued treatment by neglect upon this curable disease only until it was interceded in 1969.

The US prison system has offered inmates reduced sentencing to volunteers for LSD medication and other psychedelics without full disclosure of the risks.

Legislation for greater government committee oversight of patients rights has been instituted in the States since Tuskegee, but useless to the dead.

Books have been written about "patient" abuse in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics where political dissidents have been drugged into human vegetables. The mafia and the socialist democrats do the same to their own children in our country as a preemptive strike to destroy their credibility.

Some socialist states in Europe and the United States have now legalized "doctor" assisted suicide and government proxies executing the handicapped, chronically ill, feebleminded and elderly out of feigned compassion and financial expedience. N**i Germany, Holland, and even Oregon are examples.

Life is hell on earth when you can't trust your own government. No civilization can survive when love and trust are destroyed. That is the problem with socialized medicine. Socialism is s***ery. Tyranny is always fickle.

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Mar 25, 2020 17:51:50   #
tbutkovich
 
straightUp wrote:
Muahahaa!!!

Obviously, they're trying to help the young and the struggling. But I'm betting you're in favor of giving all the money to the wealthy so you can grovel at their feet, shine their shoes and hope they'll drop a few coins for your trouble. What do they call it? Oh yeah, trickle down.


Excuse me!

If I was going to get a college education today. I would go to a low cost community college to get my core courses, than switch to a University for my required courses. I would also work part time and in the summers. I would pay for my college education. I provided financial help to three of my kids go to college and it wasn’t easy. Had to work two jobs. My daughters had to work at Cheesecake Factory long hours for tips. My third daughter had to drop out of school a semester to get money to complete her senior year.

These millennials, perhaps your one of them, want to go to the best and most expensive schools for four years, willing to take out school loans th pay the extremely high tuition, study political science or sociology or some other degree program so they don’t have to study too hard and get a degree that’s not worth much in the marketplace. Then when faced with a $160,000.00 bill start whining and want our kids who are now employed and myself to pay for it!

And they insert it in a bill intended to help working people and businesses. And you see no problem with that?

I told my kids they had four years to finish their college education, couldn’t get married til they got their degree, had to work in the summer. They sacrificed. My wife and I sacrificed. I co- signed student loans, paid the notes til they graduated, maxed out my credit cards and now your Democrat leadership wants to put provisions on the c****av***s package asking me to pay for their college tuition! Taxation without representation. They want to slip the provision into a bill intended to help the workers. I am outraged and all those who have paid for their kids education should be likewise.

The snowflake whiners need to man up and pay for their education, college and degree of their choice. If they borrow and run up a big bill, they not the taxpayer need to pay the cost like our families did! And then you have the call to say “we are filled with vitriol!” By the way, I am in my 70’s and still working so I can retire in a few more years.

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Mar 25, 2020 17:54:41   #
Tug484
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
It is certainly possible since there is just such a research center in W***n. But we have no way of discerning this from the mainstream media.

The socialists have a long sordid history of forcing public dependency after crisis they themselves have either orchestrated, or sat in silence letting trouble fester for decades, in a deliberate scheme of treatment by neglect - - - and then offered socialized medicine as the antidote!

The typhus p******c of 23 million people stretched across Russia during the Bolshevik Revolution eventually drawing the assistance of the International Red Cross. You can look that up in the League of Nations Relief and Rehabilitation records.

The syphilis p******c of the Great Depression under Franklin Delano Roosevelt's infamous Surgeon General Dr. Thomas Parran began secret experiments on the uninformed, unwitting Tuskegee Black residents of Alabama in 1935. The Public Health Service continued treatment by neglect upon this curable disease only until it was interceded in 1969.

The US prison system has offered inmates reduced sentencing to volunteers for LSD medication and other psychedelics without full disclosure of the risks.

Legislation for greater government committee oversight of patients rights has been instituted in the States since Tuskegee, but useless to the dead.

Books have been written about "patient" abuse in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics where political dissidents have been drugged into human vegetables. The mafia and the socialist democrats do the same to their own children in our country as a preemptive strike to destroy their credibility.

Some socialist states in Europe and the United States have now legalized "doctor" assisted suicide and government proxies executing the handicapped, chronically ill, feebleminded and elderly out of feigned compassion and financial expedience. N**i Germany, Holland, and even Oregon are examples.

Life is hell on earth when you can't trust your own government. No civilization can survive when love and trust are destroyed. That is the problem with socialized medicine. Socialism is s***ery. Tyranny is always fickle.
It is certainly possible since there is just such ... (show quote)


That's true and they're all things I've read in Robin Cook's books.
Also they injected old people with cancer cells.

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Mar 25, 2020 17:57:55   #
Tug484
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Excuse me!

If I was going to get a college education today. I would go to a low cost community college to get my core courses, than switch to a University for my required courses. I would also work part time and in the summers. I would pay for my college education. I provided financial help to three of my kids go to college and it wasn’t easy. Had to work two jobs. My daughters had to work at Cheesecake Factory long hours for tips. My third daughter had to drop out of school a semester to get money to complete her senior year.

These millennials, perhaps your one of them, want to go to the best and most expensive schools for four years, willing to take out school loans th pay the extremely high tuition, study political science or sociology or some other degree program so they don’t have to study too hard and get a degree that’s not worth much in the marketplace. Then when faced with a $160,000.00 bill start whining and want our kids who are now employed and myself to pay for it!

And they insert it in a bill intended to help working people and businesses. And you see no problem with that?

I told my kids they had four years to finish their college education, couldn’t get married til they got their degree, had to work in the summer. They sacrificed. My wife and I sacrificed. I co- signed student loans, paid the notes til they graduated, maxed out my credit cards and now your Democrat leadership wants to put provisions on the c****av***s package asking me to pay for their college tuition! Taxation without representation. They want to slip the provision into a bill intended to help the workers. I am outraged and all those who have paid for their kids education should be likewise.

The snowflake whiners need to man up and pay for their education, college of and degree of their choice. If they borrow and run up a big bill, they not the taxpayer need to pay the cost like our families did! And then you have the call to say “we are filled with vitriol!” By the way, I am in my 70’s and still working so I can retire in a few more years.
Excuse me! br br If I was going to get a college ... (show quote)



Thank God, my granddaughter got a four year fully paid scholarship.
She is continuing her education, but is paying it herself after she finished those four years.

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Mar 25, 2020 18:02:58   #
tbutkovich
 
Tug!

She worked hard to get the scholarship! Anyone who gets a scholarship has to work hard for it. Congratulations!

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Mar 25, 2020 18:07:12   #
Tug484
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Tug!

She worked hard to get the scholarship! Anyone who gets a scholarship has to work hard for it. Congratulations!


Good grief, when she was a Sophomore in high school, she was already taking college courses that seemed so hard, I couldn't do it and go to high school .
She did apply herself and is going into the medical field.
Thank you for the congratulations.
You did a lot for your kids and they sound like they have good heads on their shoulders.

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Mar 25, 2020 18:51:44   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
straightUp wrote:
No, I'm not. Have you read any of the threads on this site? That's just a small sample. In fact, I'm convinced that a lot of the support for Trump is pure spite. I know so many Trump supporters that don't like Trump but they h**e the Democrats more.

Just so you know, I don't think it's a one-sided deal. I think it's more a matter of extreme than it is a matter of which side, but I do get the sense that if the left is 80% moderate and 20% extreme, it's the other way around on the right with 80% extreme and 20% moderate.

This is just my opinion based on personal observations.
No, I'm not. Have you read any of the threads on t... (show quote)


Take a few minutes and check the h**e posts from your left buddies on this site,
in fact far less from conservatives.

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Mar 25, 2020 18:54:18   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Tug484 wrote:
Good grief, when she was a Sophomore in high school, she was already taking college courses that seemed so hard, I couldn't do it and go to high school .
She did apply herself and is going into the medical field.
Thank you for the congratulations.
You did a lot for your kids and they sound like they have good heads on their shoulders.


It's called MERIT and should be used more often instead of ENTITLEMENT. Good for her, and good for the parents who take responsibility to be good parents and teach their children how to be good people and responsible citizens.

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Mar 25, 2020 18:55:06   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Excuse me!

If I was going to get a college education today. I would go to a low cost community college to get my core courses, than switch to a University for my required courses. I would also work part time and in the summers. I would pay for my college education. I provided financial help to three of my kids go to college and it wasn’t easy. Had to work two jobs. My daughters had to work at Cheesecake Factory long hours for tips. My third daughter had to drop out of school a semester to get money to complete her senior year.

These millennials, perhaps your one of them, want to go to the best and most expensive schools for four years, willing to take out school loans th pay the extremely high tuition, study political science or sociology or some other degree program so they don’t have to study too hard and get a degree that’s not worth much in the marketplace. Then when faced with a $160,000.00 bill start whining and want our kids who are now employed and myself to pay for it!

And they insert it in a bill intended to help working people and businesses. And you see no problem with that?

I told my kids they had four years to finish their college education, couldn’t get married til they got their degree, had to work in the summer. They sacrificed. My wife and I sacrificed. I co- signed student loans, paid the notes til they graduated, maxed out my credit cards and now your Democrat leadership wants to put provisions on the c****av***s package asking me to pay for their college tuition! Taxation without representation. They want to slip the provision into a bill intended to help the workers. I am outraged and all those who have paid for their kids education should be likewise.

The snowflake whiners need to man up and pay for their education, college and degree of their choice. If they borrow and run up a big bill, they not the taxpayer need to pay the cost like our families did! And then you have the call to say “we are filled with vitriol!” By the way, I am in my 70’s and still working so I can retire in a few more years.
Excuse me! br br If I was going to get a college ... (show quote)



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Mar 25, 2020 19:15:18   #
Tug484
 
dtucker300 wrote:
It's called MERIT and should be used more often instead of ENTITLEMENT. Good for her, and good for the parents who take responsibility to be good parents and teach their children how to be good people and responsible citizens.


Yes, they're very involved.
I agree on merit and not entitlement.

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Mar 25, 2020 21:25:43   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
dtucker300 wrote:
There is no country bigger nor smaller with our level of diversity.

Who says? I haven't actually researched that specific question but I know that most of western Europe is just as diverse as we are, if not more. I also know that India, the world's largest democracy, is incredibly diverse. They have 24 different languages. Not dialects... languages! So, get real.

dtucker300 wrote:

No need to break up the country. Just break up the Democratic party into the groups they represent that they currently promise to protect from the other groups they represent.

I can't tell if you're being serious.

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Mar 25, 2020 21:34:52   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
dtucker300 wrote:


We do need to take a serious look at our public schools, some are very successful, others not so much.

During this c****a v***s p******c with a voluntary quarantining and closure of school, many states are now considering home schooling K-12 as well as college classes.

What a wonderful revolution, home schooling to take our children out of these c*******t indoctrination camps by the teachers unions.

College changed in the 1960s from offering real education to a socialist indoctrination camps of student potheads and stoned professors thriving under government subsidies. The cost went while the quality went down.

The Trump administration's new opportunities of offering apprenticeships and trade schools as an alternative to college are particularly profitable to the future of our kids who can graduate debt free with real job sk**ls and employment and a sense of patriotism.

We must overturn President Kennedy's Executive Order 10988 legalizing the organization of labor unions within the federal, state and municipal governments. Unions were deemed a national security threat during WWII because they were allied with socialist Russia and Germany, and should be recognized as a current national security threat ingrained into the Deep State today.

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Mar 25, 2020 21:44:17   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
We do need to take a serious look at our public schools, some are very successful, others not so much.

During this c****a v***s p******c with a voluntary quarantining and closure of school, many states are now considering home schooling K-12 as well as college classes.

What a wonderful revolution, home schooling to take our children out of these c*******t indoctrination camps by the teachers unions.

College changed in the 1960s from offering real education to a socialist indoctrination camps of student potheads and stoned professors thriving under government subsidies. The cost went while the quality went down.

The Trump administration's new opportunities of offering apprenticeships and trade schools as an alternative to college are particularly profitable to the future of our kids who can graduate debt free with real job sk**ls and employment and a sense of patriotism.

We must overturn President Kennedy's Executive Order 10988 legalizing the organization of labor unions within the federal, state and municipal governments. Unions were deemed a national security threat during WWII because they were allied with socialist Russia and Germany, and should be recognized as a current national security threat ingrained into the Deep State today.
We do need to take a serious look at our public sc... (show quote)



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Mar 25, 2020 21:45:40   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
straightUp wrote:
I can't tell if you're being serious.




Europe isn't a country. Calif has 87 different languages (Maybe more), not dialects. One elementary school in Los Angeles has all 87 languages represented there. They call the school, The Tower of Babel Avenue Elementary School.

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