The end of the 2nd amendment: Florida’s Extreme Risk Protection law, commonly known as a red f**g law, has been used liberally by law enforcement across the state, including by many...

MR Mister Loc: Washington DC

Florida’s Extreme Risk Protection law, commonly known as a red f**g law, has been used liberally by law enforcement across the state, including by many Republican sheriffs.

Since the bill was signed into law by then-Governor Rick Scott in March 2018, the red f**g law has been used more than 3,500 to separate people from their firearms.

If it were really necessary to issue all these gun confiscation orders, you would think that mass acts of violence happened multiple times a day before the law passed, but that is simply not the case.

According to the Associated Press:

https://www.gunpowdermagazine.com/floridas-red-f**g-gun-confiscation-order-used-more-than-3-500-times/

hdjimv Loc: South Dakota

MR Mister wrote:

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Kevyn

MR Mister wrote:

Florida’s Extreme Risk Protection law, commonly kn... (show quote)

Let’s say the cops get a hand full of calls to a house or apartment for fights and domestic violence the people living there are constantly belligerent and roaring drunk they see children in the home and notice unsecured firearms. This happens all over the country and in many instances no one is arrested unless a crime is witnessed. It simply makes sense and is well within the constitution to secure the weapons in the home with a court order rather than waiting for a shooting.

hdjimv Loc: South Dakota

Kevyn wrote:

Let’s say the cops get a hand full of calls to a house or apartment for fights and domestic violence the people living there are constantly belligerent and roaring drunk they see children in the home and notice unsecured firearms. This happens all over the country and in many instances no one is arrested unless a crime is witnessed. It simply makes sense and is well within the constitution to secure the weapons in the home with a court order rather than waiting for a shooting.

Your hypothetical example is very unlikely to be anything but an anomaly in the 3,500 red f**g seizure cases in Florida. It has more chance of being a useful tool for vengeful people against innocent law abiding citizens, than a deterrent for criminal activity. Think Kevyn! If they are successful in eliminating the provisions of the 2nd, or in this case the 5th and 14th amendment, the 1st amendment and all the others won't be far behind.

American Vet

Kevyn wrote:

Let’s say the cops get a hand full of calls to a house or apartment for fights and domestic violence the people living there are constantly belligerent and roaring drunk they see children in the home and notice unsecured firearms. This happens all over the country and in many instances no one is arrested unless a crime is witnessed. It simply makes sense and is well within the constitution to secure the weapons in the home with a court order rather than waiting for a shooting.

Nope - it's not in the Constitution. Your court order needs to have due process - and Red F**g laws do not do that.

Civics class 101 for you, Kevyboy.....

bahmer

MR Mister wrote:

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Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD

Kevyn wrote:

Let’s say the cops get a hand full of calls to a house or apartment for fights and domestic violence the people living there are constantly belligerent and roaring drunk they see children in the home and notice unsecured firearms. This happens all over the country and in many instances no one is arrested unless a crime is witnessed. It simply makes sense and is well within the constitution to secure the weapons in the home with a court order rather than waiting for a shooting.

Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle

Kevyn wrote:

Let’s say the cops get a hand full of calls to a house or apartment for fights and domestic violence the people living there are constantly belligerent and roaring drunk they see children in the home and notice unsecured firearms. This happens all over the country and in many instances no one is arrested unless a crime is witnessed. It simply makes sense and is well within the constitution to secure the weapons in the home with a court order rather than waiting for a shooting.

With great power, comes great responsibility.
Responsible gun owners, and others who use firearms must live it.
If the majority doesn't, our freedom is at stake.
Our way of governance is for a good and moral people....that means sober gun control

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

hdjimv wrote:

Your hypothetical example is very unlikely to be anything but an anomaly in the 3,500 red f**g seizure cases in Florida. It has more chance of being a useful tool for vengeful people against innocent law abiding citizens, than a deterrent for criminal activity. Think Kevyn! If they are successful in eliminating the provisions of the 2nd, or in this case the 5th and 14th amendment, the 1st amendment and all the others won't be far behind.

If the parents are exposing kids to drunken belligerents, CPS will remove them. Much safer for the kids than leaving them with drunken parents.

Smedley_buzkill

Kevyn wrote:

Let’s say the cops get a hand full of calls to a house or apartment for fights and domestic violence the people living there are constantly belligerent and roaring drunk they see children in the home and notice unsecured firearms. This happens all over the country and in many instances no one is arrested unless a crime is witnessed. It simply makes sense and is well within the constitution to secure the weapons in the home with a court order rather than waiting for a shooting.

It is not within the Constitution to have someone's personal property confiscated on the unsupported word of someone. There must be a complaint sworn on penalty of perjury, and the accused is supposed to go in front of the judge BEFORE his property is taken, not after. I suppose, like most Liberals, you only adhere to the parts of the Constitution that tend to support your opinion, once they have been properly cherry-picked.

Kevyn

hdjimv wrote:

Your hypothetical example is very unlikely to be anything but an anomaly in the 3,500 red f**g seizure cases in Florida. It has more chance of being a useful tool for vengeful people against innocent law abiding citizens, than a deterrent for criminal activity. Think Kevyn! If they are successful in eliminating the provisions of the 2nd, or in this case the 5th and 14th amendment, the 1st amendment and all the others won't be far behind.

Its Florida, you don’t think there are 3500 violent unbalanced drug addled or drunken nuts likely to pull off wanton acts of violence out of the ten million people in FLorida? Watch a couple episodes of COPS and tell me that damn near all of those people shouldn’t be disarmed before they k**l someone. Hell ask a cop if they don’t get calls every day on unhinged people.

Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD

nwtk2007 wrote:

If the parents are exposing kids to drunken belligerents, CPS will remove them. Much safer for the kids than leaving them with drunken parents.

How often does this actually happen? Unless there is a trip to the emergency room (and sometimes even then) Child Protective Services tries to leave the child with the parent.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Quakerwidow wrote:

How often does this actually happen? Unless there is a trip to the emergency room (and sometimes even then) Child Protective Services tries to leave the child with the parent.

If the police are called to the home and there are parents under the influence (drunk or impaired), most of the time the cops call CPS to evaluate the situation. It happens a lot!

Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD

nwtk2007 wrote:

If the police are called to the home and there are parents under the influence (drunk or impaired), most of the time the cops call CPS to evaluate the situation. It happens a lot!

But CPS tends NOT to remove the children.

Lonewolf

H**e to tell you this but were loseing our freedom because of maybe 10% of the population they use guns to rob and k**l and law abiding citizen's get punished!
Most of our laws are based on these principles, And no-one notices the criminals ignore the laws we pass, for God's sake that's why we call them criminals!