JW

Regarding your intellectual prowess, if you were a grocery store, your shelves would be empty... and, come to think of it, if your side ever wins, all of our grocery stores will be empty. Just ask any Venezuelan how that works.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

I predict, there will not be another democrat president for at least another twenty years.

Possibly much longer.

PeterS

You're bragging about your intellectual powers and the only thing you can come up with is a false equivalency and a slippery slope...universal healthcare equals empty grocery store shelves and if we implement one socialized program the next thing you know we are fully socialized and grocery store shelves are bare! I believe you conservatives said the same thing with Social Security and Medicaid/medicare.

Not very smart for someone claiming the intellectual venue to only one ideology...

karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!

They Were Bragging That About Us In 2010

Just Saying

Kevyn

Instead ask someone in Sweden or Denmark.

waltmoreno

Oh, ok, now I get it. Although socialism has never worked before wherever it was tried, and moreover has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of millions of people, while the rulers always live high on the hog, the type of socialism proposed by Bernie and the other Dems hasn't ever been tried before. This new and improved form will lead us to utopia.
Think of it, nirvana here on earth. What could possibly go wrong?

Hug

Pray that you are right.

bylm1-Bernie

You might want to take another detailed look at Sweden and Denmark. I think you would find that things are not as rosy as the left, including Sanders, like to portray. If it weren't for their capitalistic economy which supports what socialist programs they have, including their ridiculous vacation time, they wouldn't be able to survive. Say what you will about the slippery slope argument but a long look will show that it isn't to be ignored

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Sorry Petie, we're wise now to the L*****t and their unsuspecting mental midget supporters plan for dismantling our Republic. It's called "incrementalization." Take a little bite of the apple here, another there, and eventually there is nothing left but the core. BUT THE CORE IS WHERE THE STRENGHT REMAINS AND NEW GROWTH EMINATES! Progressive ideology and agenda are rotten to the core and for this reason always dies. Unfortunately, like one rotten apple in the barrel many are destroyed.

Smedley_buzkill

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

My My, you right wingers are convinced of your gospel as presented by the supporters of wealth for the wealthy..

But a couple of thing to point out.. Dems are for e******y.. not to socialize the country, that is the lie presented by the GOP from the 30s.. everything that does not hand the money to them is declared socialism..

Venezuela... busted economy? Yes, indeed.. but because the criminals lean left?.. no, the economy went bust because the US, that is our country, declared economic war on them a couple decades ago and they lacked the knowledge to fight back effectively and we busted them but good.. have we taken over the oil yet? I do not think so but plans have been announced.. we will have to watch..

We have been on a redistribution of wealth policy from at least the 70s.. from the working/middle class to the Ultra rich.. how has that worked for you?
efforts to return to a strong middle class the prosperity that creates for all the nation is not a goal anyone should resent.. unless you are of the 1%..

Only the right wing governments work??

Let me know, which is your favorite right wing govt.. Germany, Italy, Spain... any of the South American attempts.. none of them worked, all are destroyed, so maybe something, a little of each is a goal to strive for..

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Tell us something Perm, when did America stop working and American citizens become dependent on Federal Government? Consider,
or at least remember, that the ability to tax allows the right to control. Limit taxes you limit control. Progressives are promising so much free stuff, including removing the responsibility of repaying student loans, and the ONLY way forward for them is to use your money to buy them your v**e. Hello Suckers!

bylm1-Bernie

I'm sorry, Frosty, but it seems you have nearly everything completely bass ackwards, which, I should add, is what 99% of the l*****ts do. The left is, and always has been, for e******y of outcome, not for e******y of opportunity. The euphemism you always hear from them is to "level the playing field." That is BS. They want to knock down those who have been successful. You know, place a few obstacles in their paths so they can't do quite as well, in hopes that they won't gobble up too much of the good things which are seen to be available in a limited amount. They don't believe in growth of the economy by new markets such as cell phones, wide screen TV, better cars, or anything that expands the economy. The notion that you have to rob the wealthy so they won't take too much is a fallacy that the left cannot seem to get used to. It's called class envy or greed. If you examine the history of those countries you mentioned you'll find that marxism is the cause of their downfall, just the opposite of what you say.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

The problem with your question Mike is that I do not agree with the basic assumption..

I do not see that Americans have stopped working and are dependent on the feds..

i see that the safety net system is working and is crucial to those in dire straits..

Back during the great recession, those numbers of course went up.. little of it was due to any changes.. while the time on the programs increased due to the severe downturn, no major changes were made in the programs..

If we wish to limit taxes, and I do, let us start where the greatest progress is to be made..

Corporate welfare and the Military industrial complex..

Anything, even a small fraction of the total monies.. would dwarf the amount we could save by starving the domestic safety programs.

And the integrity of our social system is also the foundation of our nation.. we can not lose it..

I see nearly everyone working hard for the American dream as they see it.. Jobs have always been abundant in Minnesota.. in 2010 we led the nation in job creation. bonus and incentives started appearing in about 2011/12.. When I attended the U of MN, I changed jobs nearly every term to fit my class schedule..

free stuff----- I would rather pay for it going to the public than pay even more and see it given to the huge business interests which dictate our taxation..

Oh.. student loans... this is a subject needing careful study.. the extreme cost of education is a limiting factor for very many Americans and some needs doing..

But--- the cost of repaying all the loans which have been made is prohibitive and careful planning is needed before any action is done.. it is not a "yes or no" situation..

My stubborn son the lawyer. finished law school with over $100,000, to repay.. which he did only this past summer.. no, the previous fall..

And of course, if the student uses funds for everything, that has to be considered as possibly elective spending ..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Hellow Bernie,,

I keep hear nearly the same time and again.. but the t***h is that Many have huge advantage of wealth and background. Some even are born with more money then they should be able to spend in a life time yet squander it before they reach SS.. think orange,,

E******y of out come is impossible and I have never heard any Dem promote the idea.. what is promoted is the "fundamental change" to a position where each person could achieve the goal or station in life that they desire..

"Level the playing field".. what is your idea on that sound bite?

For me, it is the opportunity for the possible education needed for the position to be available to all not only the wealthy..

It is not for the removal of anyone who has already achieved that status, wh**ever that may be..

Obstacles?? why should the obstacles remain in the path of the lower income and unconnected only??

Have you ever met anyone who did not want a bustling market and told you that? I never have.. a strong economy is wanted by everyone..

And we do not intend to "rob the wealthy" to get a share of the economy..

We have had t***sfer of wealth for well over 50 years, from at least the 70s and that is what we suffer from today..wealth from the middle class to the ultra rich on a one way road,, with out the majority of Americans able to enjoy the fruit of their labor, our country will fall apart, as it seems very near to and starting at this time..

I stand on what I said about those right wing counties..