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Feb 14, 2020 16:53:57   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Every president beginning with George Washington has employed personal representatives, emissaries, envoys, or a "private party" to carry out his foreign policies. Many advantages to doing so. A personal rep or envoy is not burdened by government bureaucracy and mountains of red tape.

The Special Envoy

AMONG all the instruments available to the President in his conduct of foreign relations, none is more flexible than the use of personal representatives. He is free to employ officials of the government or private citizens. He may give them such rank and title as seem appropriate to the tasks; these designations may be ambassador, commissioner, agent, delegate; or he may assign no title at all. He may send his agents to any place on earth that he thinks desirable and give them instructions either by word of mouth, or in writing, or through the Department of State, or in any other manner that seems to him fitted to the occasion. Some have been exceedingly formal; others completely informal. Many agents have borne commissions like those of Government officers, ensuring them diplomatic rights, dignities and immunities.
Every president beginning with George Washington h... (show quote)


Bamm!

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Feb 14, 2020 16:56:21   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
You keep proving why you belong to the orange cult.. reality will never enter your skull...8 years, you do not even know the time line..

as for what was provided you can do no more then echo what the orange mouth told you.. never a fact in your venting..


By March 2015, the US had committed more than $120 million in security assistance for Ukraine and had pledged an additional $75 million worth of equipment including UAVs, counter-mortar radars, night vision devices and medical supplies, according to the Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency.
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Not one weapon. Not one. Lethal aid they claimed they needed and others said they needed, like the ambassador. Hmm, what was her name??

Blankets.

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Feb 14, 2020 16:57:18   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Every president beginning with George Washington has employed personal representatives, emissaries, envoys, or a "private party" to carry out his foreign policies. Many advantages to doing so. A personal rep or envoy is not burdened by government bureaucracy and mountains of red tape.

The Special Envoy

AMONG all the instruments available to the President in his conduct of foreign relations, none is more flexible than the use of personal representatives. He is free to employ officials of the government or private citizens. He may give them such rank and title as seem appropriate to the tasks; these designations may be ambassador, commissioner, agent, delegate; or he may assign no title at all. He may send his agents to any place on earth that he thinks desirable and give them instructions either by word of mouth, or in writing, or through the Department of State, or in any other manner that seems to him fitted to the occasion. Some have been exceedingly formal; others completely informal. Many agents have borne commissions like those of Government officers, ensuring them diplomatic rights, dignities and immunities.
Every president beginning with George Washington h... (show quote)




Twist all you want, no amount of lying will remove the taint of orange from this, one of many actions..

WASHINGTON — Even as they publicly insist President Donald Trump did nothing wrong during his call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy, his allies are privately acknowledging more serious concerns about the ethical questions raised and the potential political fallout from it — especially over the involvement of Rudy Giuliani, Trump’s personal attorney.

Two Trump allies, one of whom is a former senior White House official, described a level of concern inside the White House that is far greater than Trump and his supporters have publicly acknowledged. The former official added that Giuliani’s role is particularly problematic legally because Giuliani has purely political and personal ties to Trump and has no official role with the U.S. government.

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Feb 14, 2020 17:01:59   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
That's it? V**e and pay taxes???

Please tell us when American citizens obtained the right to v**e and began electing public officers to serve We, the People. How many centuries did it take for us to gain that right?

And what's with all the bureaucratic bulls**t? How do you t***slate that into "patriotism"?


You cannot understand the term "context"" OK>.

i do not expect you to know or agree with these points but they are a crucial part of Patriotic duty..


https://www.civics-online.org/v****g-rights/four-important-responsibilities-of-v**ers/

During his presidency, Abraham Lincoln preached the importance of the government being of, for, and by the people. He argued that v**ers played the most important role in making sure the government reflected their desires and functioned according to the guidelines of the Constitution.

Despite Lincoln’s appeal to the public, it can be argued that many people today fail to appreciate or acknowledge their role in shaping the government. As U.S. citizens, people maintain these four important responsibilities as eligible v**ers.

Registering to V**e

Most notably, people’s most important responsibility as citizens involves registering to v**e. If they are legal U.S. citizens, 18 years of age or older, and have no felony convictions on their record, people are eligible to v**e in local, state, and federal e******ns. Registering to v**e can be done online or in person. The process of becoming a registered v**er is simple and can be taken care of in a matter of minutes.

V****g in E******ns

Once they are registered to v**e, people should then make every effort to v**e in local, state, and federal e******ns. Many people dismiss this responsibility by saying that they do not care about the issues on the b****t or that they are unfamiliar with the candidates up for e******n. However, by failing to use their privilege to v**e, people essentially allow other v**ers to make decisions for them, to let their voices be heard over v**ers who make no effort go to the polls. This is one of the primary reasons why you need to v**e!

The outcomes of e******ns can impact v**ers’ personal freedoms, taxes, and other aspects of daily life that they take for granted. Because of the far reaching impact that an e******n can have, people have the duty to cast their v**e if they want a say in how their futures play out.

Casting Absentee V**es

People who have a legitimate reason for not making it to the polls can still cast their v**e by requesting an absentee b****t. The b****t can be mailed to them or they can cast an absentee v**e in person at their local e******n office. Despite not being able to v**e on E******n Day, they can still make sure that their voice is heard and that they make use of their v****g privilege.

Updating Personal Information Regularly

State and federal e******n laws can change at a moment’s notice, so it is important for people to keep their v****g information updated as needed. If they move or want to change their party affiliation, for example, they should update this information well before the next e******n takes place.

They should also stay up-to-date about the location of their polling place. The locations of polling places change regularly. A school, church, or business that was utilized as a polling place during the last e******n may not be used again for the next. V**ers can find out their polling places online or by contacting their local e******n office.

V**ers play a central role in shaping the government and their very futures. They can satisfy their duty as v**ers by observing these four important responsibilities.

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Feb 14, 2020 17:07:56   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
And what order was that??




and now you are playing dumb as if you never heard the charges or the phone call limited transcription..

the order was for the gaining dirt on Biden/son and that later resulting in the phone call. which was the demand for personal favor..

Now I know you had to know all that but now you have lost any thing more to say and resort to this sort of childish attempt to divert the subject ..

Normal run of the mill right wing floundering..



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Feb 14, 2020 17:11:36   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Twist all you want, no amount of lying will remove the taint of orange from this, one of many actions..

WASHINGTON — Even as they publicly insist President Donald Trump did nothing wrong during his call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy, his allies are privately acknowledging more serious concerns about the ethical questions raised and the potential political fallout from it — especially over the involvement of Rudy Giuliani, Trump’s personal attorney.

Two Trump allies, one of whom is a former senior White House official, described a level of concern inside the White House that is far greater than Trump and his supporters have publicly acknowledged. The former official added that Giuliani’s role is particularly problematic legally because Giuliani has purely political and personal ties to Trump and has no official role with the U.S. government.
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"Two Trump allies, one of whom is a former senior White House official" -- 99% of you h**er's information about what Trump has done/might do/thought he might do begins with some anonymous "officials" inside the White House or some such nonsense.

Cut the BS.The l*****ts have proven they cannot be trusted for honest information with their secret whistle blower, history of anonymous leaks, et, etc.

And what is a "level of concern?" Vague nonsense. Like the Articles of Impeachment. Vague and ill defined. Could mean anything to anybody, but oh wait, that was the purpose wasn't it??!!

Y'all sicken me.

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Feb 14, 2020 17:14:48   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Not one weapon. Not one. Lethal aid they claimed they needed and others said they needed, like the ambassador. Hmm, what was her name??

Blankets.


You dummy,,,, Ukraine got everything short of the Missiles trump has so belabored as a big deal.. they were not provided as an attempt to hold back the escalation of the war.. maybe it helped, maybe it made no difference..

the missiles which have been provide have not seen action and sit in a warehouse in western Ukraine, not deployed or used for any purpose..

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Feb 14, 2020 17:19:30   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Not one weapon. Not one. Lethal aid they claimed they needed and others said they needed, like the ambassador. Hmm, what was her name??

Blankets.


You may be confused over Taylor , who in 2015 was in private practice..

Most of you confusion is a result of trump lies.. some via his yes men such as Giuliani..

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/lethal-weapons-to-ukraine-a-primer/

During the Obama administration, direct commercial sales of small shipments of lethal arms to Ukraine were reviewed, approved, and licensed on a case-by-case basis by the Department of State in consultation with the Department of Defense. The US government authorized nearly $27 million of commercial defense articles and services to Ukraine in 2016 and about $68 million in 2015, portions of which are classified as lethal weaponry.

It is through this process that US-made lethal weapons arrived near Ukraine’s frontlines. According to a recent Digital Forensic Research Lab investigation, the Texas-based company AirTronic shipped 100 PSRL-1 (Precision Shoulder-Fired Rocket Launcher) systems to the Ukrainian state-run Spetstechnoexport in April 2017. Some of these rocket-propelled grenade launchers appeared during a training session of the Azov Battalion, a regiment of fighters that has been integrated into the National Guard, based near Mariupol in the summer of 2017. These weapons were reportedly used only in training exercises and likely returned to arms depots.

These direct commercial sales coupled with the US provision of advanced non-lethal weaponry, particularly counter-battery radar systems, were already in motion during the Obama administration. By comparison, Canada only recently approved a government decree permitting Canadian defense contractors on a case-by-case basis to export lethal arms to Ukraine. However, the recent raft of US and Canadian announcements created a false impression that these were the first-ever shipments of lethal weapons from the United States to Ukraine.

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Feb 14, 2020 17:22:17   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
"Two Trump allies, one of whom is a former senior White House official" -- 99% of you h**er's information about what Trump has done/might do/thought he might do begins with some anonymous "officials" inside the White House or some such nonsense.

Cut the BS.The l*****ts have proven they cannot be trusted for honest information with their secret whistle blower, history of anonymous leaks, et, etc.

And what is a "level of concern?" Vague nonsense. Like the Articles of Impeachment. Vague and ill defined. Could mean anything to anybody, but oh wait, that was the purpose wasn't it??!!

Y'all sicken me.
"Two Trump allies, one of whom is a former se... (show quote)




I suggest you retire to the bathroom and puke your guts out..

The lies and BS all comes in orange shades.. if you have no facts you post lies and insults..

good night and try to sleep, it is good for you..

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Feb 14, 2020 17:23:43   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
permafrost wrote:
At times I feel like laughing at all the useless effort put into finding some crime the trump foes have committed and nothing ever is found..

Just like B******i....

But now we are investigating some other trump pal, who, knowing the facts on trump is far more important to keep happy and silent.. so let us watch as the crime cabal unrolls its latest plot to protect the orange con man at any cost.. america be damn, gotta protect trump from those who need to know.. those that v**ed for him in error..

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/14/politics/andrew-mccabe-justice-department-investigation/index.html

The Department of Justice is dropping its criminal investigation of former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe without bringing charges, it announced on Friday.

McCabe's attorneys received a phone call and a letter from the US Attorney's Office in DC on Friday announcing the declination.
"We write to inform you that, after careful consideration, the Government has decided not to pursue criminal charges against your client, Andrew G. McCabe, arising from the referral" made by the Inspector General's office to investigate his behavior, the DC US Attorney's Office wrote. McCabe's attorneys released the letter on Friday. "Based on the totality of the circumstances and all of the information known to the Government at this time, we consider the matter closed."
A spokesperson for the Department of Justice declined to provide more information.
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One has to absolutely love DC....only in that district can double standards be acceptable. One man, a Trump supporter, may not have lied to Congress and is facing 8 years in jail. Another man lies to Congress and gets off scots free even after admitting guilt. McCabe wrote "I have been accused of ‘lack of candor,’” McCabe wrote Friday in the Post. “That is not true. I did not knowingly mislead or lie to investigators.”

“At worst, I was not clear in my responses, and because of what was going on around me may well have been confused and distracted — and for that I take full responsibility,” he wrote. “But that is not a lack of candor. And under no circumstances could it ever serve as the basis for the very public and extended humiliation of my family and me that the administration, and the president personally, have engaged in over the past year.”

DC justice is no justice for all, only for those who h**e Trump!

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Feb 14, 2020 17:33:39   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
and now you are playing dumb as if you never heard the charges or the phone call limited transcription..

the order was for the gaining dirt on Biden/son and that later resulting in the phone call. which was the demand for personal favor..

Now I know you had to know all that but now you have lost any thing more to say and resort to this sort of childish attempt to divert the subject ..

Normal run of the mill right wing floundering..


First off, dude, Vindman was not given any order like that. Trump was speaking to the Ukraine president and as far as I know, Trump cannot "order" him to do anything AT ALL. Are you using again??

And be plain, Vindman said Trump "demanded" the Ukraine president investigate the Biden's. Show us that in the transcript or reported by any other person on the call any mention of a "demand" of the Ukraine president.

This lie has a life of it's own and is, in fact, the most damning piece of the democrats "impeachment" efforts. No where have I seen a more blatant lie promulgated by any one or any group in my entire life. Never.

Illegal order???????? That term doesn't even apply, AT ALL. The sheer stupidity, once again and everytime I hear it, boggles the ever loving mind!!!!

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Feb 14, 2020 17:34:51   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
One has to absolutely love DC....only in that district can double standards be acceptable. One man, a Trump supporter, may not have lied to Congress and is facing 8 years in jail. Another man lies to Congress and gets off scots free even after admitting guilt. McCabe wrote "I have been accused of ‘lack of candor,’” McCabe wrote Friday in the Post. “That is not true. I did not knowingly mislead or lie to investigators.”

“At worst, I was not clear in my responses, and because of what was going on around me may well have been confused and distracted — and for that I take full responsibility,” he wrote. “But that is not a lack of candor. And under no circumstances could it ever serve as the basis for the very public and extended humiliation of my family and me that the administration, and the president personally, have engaged in over the past year.”

DC justice is no justice for all, only for those who h**e Trump!
One has to absolutely love DC....only in that dist... (show quote)


By the way, McCabe and Comey's lies contradicted each other, if I am remembering correctly. One of them was definitely lying. So, does this mean that it was Comey who was lying????

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Feb 14, 2020 17:39:22   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
By the way, McCabe and Comey's lies contradicted each other, if I am remembering correctly. One of them was definitely lying. So, does this mean that it was Comey who was lying????


That is logical, but putting the word logic in association with DC is an oxymoron.

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Feb 14, 2020 18:19:02   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
That is logical, but putting the word logic in association with DC is an oxymoron.


I heard that!

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Feb 14, 2020 18:59:38   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
permafrost wrote:
Twist all you want, no amount of lying will remove the taint of orange from this, one of many actions..

WASHINGTON — Even as they publicly insist President Donald Trump did nothing wrong during his call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy, his allies are privately acknowledging more serious concerns about the ethical questions raised and the potential political fallout from it — especially over the involvement of Rudy Giuliani, Trump’s personal attorney.

Two Trump allies, one of whom is a former senior White House official, described a level of concern inside the White House that is far greater than Trump and his supporters have publicly acknowledged. The former official added that Giuliani’s role is particularly problematic legally because Giuliani has purely political and personal ties to Trump and has no official role with the U.S. government.
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I did not twist, I did not lie, I gave you the facts about a president's right to employ his personal representative or agent to carry out his foreign policies.

If you were an honest man in search of the t***h instead of a bedeviled, sniveling pissant, you would do some righteous homework and find out for yourself.

FDR virtually ignored his State Dept and appointed his best buddies to carry out all kinds of foreign policy.

Obama sent members of his campaign staff to Israel in an effort to o*******w the e******n of Netanyahu. This little gig was financed by Obama's State Department - John Effing Kerry.


P**********l Appointment of Foreign Agents Without the Consent of the Senate

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