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Feb 12, 2020 19:49:41   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
DASHY wrote:
It is not pure fiction that Donald Trump was, in fact, IMPEACHED by the Congress of the United States.


Impeached in a fully partisan manner, just like the founding fathers warned us against. But that's ok, y'all have given him the 2020 e******n.

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Feb 12, 2020 20:43:28   #
Seth
 
DASHY wrote:
It is not pure fiction that Donald Trump was, in fact, IMPEACHED by the Congress of the United States.


Sure, but it wasn't bipartisan, as the framers intended. It was merely an act of political desperation by one party.

The party of immaturity, corruption and lies.

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Feb 13, 2020 01:51:19   #
Kevyn
 
Seth wrote:
Sure, but it wasn't bipartisan, as the framers intended. It was merely an act of political desperation by one party.

The party of immaturity, corruption and lies.


There was no mention of political parties when the constitution was written, suggesting that the framers intended bipartisan impeachment is as wrong as it is asinine.

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Feb 13, 2020 05:51:36   #
American Vet
 
Kevyn wrote:
There was no mention of political parties when the constitution was written, suggesting that the framers intended bipartisan impeachment is as wrong as it is asinine.


That's your suggestion - not theirs.

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Feb 13, 2020 11:12:35   #
kemmer
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
They wanted 8 some odd years of imprisonment for lying to Congress? As has been pointed out, how many years did Clinton get for the very same offense?? How many will Vindman get? Or Schiff??

And by the way, it was shortly after that tarmac meeting that Hillary's crime became an "issue" and it was decided that they would not indict her. Imagine, all that decided while comparing pics of the grand kids!

7 to 9 years is in the statute guidelines for the crimes Stone has been CONVICTED of. But Trump wants his old buddy sprung, so Billy Barr is "fixing" it.
As far as Trump's concerned, Billy Barr's sole function is to protect Trump, his family, and his buddies; and to invent charges against Trump's enemies.

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Feb 13, 2020 11:44:36   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
There was no mention of political parties when the constitution was written, suggesting that the framers intended bipartisan impeachment is as wrong as it is asinine.


I guess that is why they wrote warning us about partisan actions when impeachment is on the table. Duh!

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Feb 13, 2020 11:48:06   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
7 to 9 years is in the statute guidelines for the crimes Stone has been CONVICTED of. But Trump wants his old buddy sprung, so Billy Barr is "fixing" it.
As far as Trump's concerned, Billy Barr's sole function is to protect Trump, his family, and his buddies; and to invent charges against Trump's enemies.


Let's see now. The "crime" was that he threatened a friends dog, which according to the friend, is how he talks sometimes and that he never felt threatened. Then he lied about it although the extent of the "lie" has not been revealed. If any one is inventing crimes it is the prosecution I think.

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Feb 13, 2020 11:51:22   #
kemmer
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Let's see now. The "crime" was that he threatened a friends dog, which according to the friend, is how he talks sometimes and that he never felt threatened. Then he lied about it although the extent of the "lie" has not been revealed. If any one is inventing crimes it is the prosecution I think.

Oh brother.
Why do you even post here?

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Feb 13, 2020 11:57:05   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
Oh brother.
Why do you even post here?


So, what was his crime? What was his lie?

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Feb 13, 2020 12:10:15   #
buddy42 Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl
 
woodguru wrote:
This is actually escalating faster than can be kept up with, trump thanks Barr for "taking over" the prosecution of Stone, thentweets an actually impeachably wrong statement that he as president can oversee and direct the DOJ as far as who and how they prosecute anyone he wants.

He is so wrong about the role the president plays with the DOJ it is literally impeachable. His premise would then conclude that it is up to the president who he tells the DOJ not to investigate or prosecute, which we knew, I just didn't thing trump could possibly be stupid enough to come out and say it.

If you believe I am wrong you just go back to the freakout republicans had when Clinton, the husband of a p**********l candidate met with the then current AG Lynch on the tarmac. The extreme reaction led to Lynch recusing herself from any of the Hillary issues the DOJ was looking at, a concept this administration and Barr does not get.

The president is to have zero interactions with the AG. Any suggestions or input from the white house is supposed to go through above board white house legal channels.

Barr cannot conduct DOJ business in the non partisan manner required when he is responding directly to the orders of trump
This is actually escalating faster than can be kep... (show quote)


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This is a little long but I think it is more than enough for your blatant bias if you have the balls to read it!

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/02/it_appears_that_the_jury_in_the_roger_stone_trial_was_tainted.html

February 13, 2020
It appears that the jury in the Roger Stone trial was tainted
By Andrea Widburg
From beginning to end, Robert Mueller and his squad used Roger Stone as an object lesson to frighten anyone who had high-level contact with the Trump campaign in the lead-up to and immediately after the e******n. Stone is not a savory character, but the treatment meted out to Stone, now 67, had a revolting aura of police state h*****g about it from the start. Now it turns out that this un-American police state set up a kangaroo trial to shuttle Stone into prison.

The Mueller mob started its press against Stone in January 2019, when Stone, who ought to have been a generic white-collar criminal:

... was instead subjected to a humiliating midnight predawn raid with cars full of r**t gear–clad FBI agents, all staged before the cameras of CNN, which was exclusively granted access to the scene worthy of an action movie. [Update: It is not clear who leaked news of the raid to CNN, having the effect of staging it for the most anti-Trump of networks.] This is similar to the treatment of Paul Manafort, but with the added indignity of CNN cameras.

Stone, a first-timer, was eventually convicted of lying to Congress, interfering in the House's Russian Collusion H**x investigation, and tampering with a witness. All of these charges sound serious, but the first two are garden-variety politics and a routine occurrence in D.C. As for the third, the witness at the receiving end of the fulminating threats Stone issued recognized them for the language of an angry, impotent man and found them laughable.

Despite all this, Mueller's cadre asked the judge to impose a seven- to nine-year prison term for Stone. While this is technically within the reach of the laws Stone violated, it's a grotesque demand for an elderly, first-time, non-violent offender. To give context to how truly evil this request was, John Nolte reminds us of James A. Wolfe:

Wolfe is the scumbag who completely betrayed his trust as the head of security for the Senate intelligence committee by leaking to the media (including a New York Times reporter he was allegedly banging) — all in an effort to damage Trump. While under investigation for leaking government secrets, he lied on three occasions to the FBI (a crime), eventually pleaded guilty to one count, and was sentenced to just two months.

Two months!

Eight weeks!

Fine.

I'm fine with that. Like Stone, he certainly deserves to spend some time in prison, and anything up to a year seems reasonable. Nevertheless, there is just no question what Wolfe did is much worse than what Stone's been found guilty of.

Meanwhile, Obama-ites have walked away free despite acts such as violating national security and deleting 33,000 emails, wiretapping an opponent's p**********l campaign, lying to Congress, forging FISA warrants, etc. What the Mueller gang was demanding the judge do to Stone was political thuggery of the worst sort, and Barr's DOJ was right to step in. (The only question was why the DOJ waited as long as it did.)

Naturally, the left went insane with rage that Trump and the DOJ would try to correct a manifest case of prosecutorial overreach. Indeed, they went so mad with rage that Tomeka Hart wrote a Facebook post challenging Trump and the DOJ.

Who is Tomeka Hart? She is one of the jurors who helped convict Roger Stone. Hart explained that Trump's interference was so egregious that she could no longer keep quiet:

"I have kept my silence for months. Initially, it was for my safety. Then, I decided to remain silent out of fear of politicizing the matter," Hart wrote on Facebook, adding: "But I can't keep quiet any longer."

Hart would have done her cause better to keep quiet. By identifying herself, she revealed just how corrupt the Mueller posse really was, for Hart was the last person who should have been on a politically charged jury.

First, Hart was a former Democrat congressional candidate, although party affiliation alone should not be enough to boot a potential juror from a trial. Second, and significantly, Hart h**ed Trump, his politics, and his associates:

Here are some of her Tweets about Trump and those close to Trump



But how did she get on a jury involving Trump's longtime close friend?



How did a federal court judge ever allow a far left wing activist to sit on a case where a close Trump associate faced trial?



(Hart is trying to hide the evidence, for she's started to delete her social media posts.)

Roger Stone was tried in a kangaroo court, one in which the prosecutors, and possibly the judge, colluded to ensure a guilty judgment against him. This is a disgrace and antithetical to everything America stands for.

It's becoming clear that the entire Mueller investigation was corrupt. Mueller knew by the second day that the Trump campaign had not colluded with Russia and that everything in the Steele dossier was bull fecal matter. Instead of announcing that t***h, Mueller's team embarked upon a two-year odyssey of destroying people close to Trump by catching them on process crimes. The message was clear: work with Trump, and not only will you retire from Washington in disgrace, but you will also lose everything: career, money, and even your liberty.

It's well past time to call all of these people — including Mueller himself — to account, not with police action and kangaroo trials, but with justice properly administered and impartially carried out.

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Feb 13, 2020 12:19:10   #
kemmer
 
buddy42 wrote:
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This is a little long but I think it is more than enough for your blatant bias if you have the balls to read it!

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/02/it_appears_that_the_jury_in_the_roger_stone_trial_was_tainted.html

February 13, 2020
It appears that the jury in the Roger Stone trial was tainted
By Andrea Widburg
From beginning to end, Robert Mueller and his squad used Roger Stone as an object lesson to frighten anyone who had high-level contact with the Trump campaign in the lead-up to and immediately after the e******n. Stone is not a savory character, but the treatment meted out to Stone, now 67, had a revolting aura of police state h*****g about it from the start. Now it turns out that this un-American police state set up a kangaroo trial to shuttle Stone into prison.

The Mueller mob started its press against Stone in January 2019, when Stone, who ought to have been a generic white-collar criminal:

... was instead subjected to a humiliating midnight predawn raid with cars full of r**t gear–clad FBI agents, all staged before the cameras of CNN, which was exclusively granted access to the scene worthy of an action movie. [Update: It is not clear who leaked news of the raid to CNN, having the effect of staging it for the most anti-Trump of networks.] This is similar to the treatment of Paul Manafort, but with the added indignity of CNN cameras.

Stone, a first-timer, was eventually convicted of lying to Congress, interfering in the House's Russian Collusion H**x investigation, and tampering with a witness. All of these charges sound serious, but the first two are garden-variety politics and a routine occurrence in D.C. As for the third, the witness at the receiving end of the fulminating threats Stone issued recognized them for the language of an angry, impotent man and found them laughable.

Despite all this, Mueller's cadre asked the judge to impose a seven- to nine-year prison term for Stone. While this is technically within the reach of the laws Stone violated, it's a grotesque demand for an elderly, first-time, non-violent offender. To give context to how truly evil this request was, John Nolte reminds us of James A. Wolfe:

Wolfe is the scumbag who completely betrayed his trust as the head of security for the Senate intelligence committee by leaking to the media (including a New York Times reporter he was allegedly banging) — all in an effort to damage Trump. While under investigation for leaking government secrets, he lied on three occasions to the FBI (a crime), eventually pleaded guilty to one count, and was sentenced to just two months.

Two months!

Eight weeks!

Fine.

I'm fine with that. Like Stone, he certainly deserves to spend some time in prison, and anything up to a year seems reasonable. Nevertheless, there is just no question what Wolfe did is much worse than what Stone's been found guilty of.

Meanwhile, Obama-ites have walked away free despite acts such as violating national security and deleting 33,000 emails, wiretapping an opponent's p**********l campaign, lying to Congress, forging FISA warrants, etc. What the Mueller gang was demanding the judge do to Stone was political thuggery of the worst sort, and Barr's DOJ was right to step in. (The only question was why the DOJ waited as long as it did.)

Naturally, the left went insane with rage that Trump and the DOJ would try to correct a manifest case of prosecutorial overreach. Indeed, they went so mad with rage that Tomeka Hart wrote a Facebook post challenging Trump and the DOJ.

Who is Tomeka Hart? She is one of the jurors who helped convict Roger Stone. Hart explained that Trump's interference was so egregious that she could no longer keep quiet:

"I have kept my silence for months. Initially, it was for my safety. Then, I decided to remain silent out of fear of politicizing the matter," Hart wrote on Facebook, adding: "But I can't keep quiet any longer."

Hart would have done her cause better to keep quiet. By identifying herself, she revealed just how corrupt the Mueller posse really was, for Hart was the last person who should have been on a politically charged jury.

First, Hart was a former Democrat congressional candidate, although party affiliation alone should not be enough to boot a potential juror from a trial. Second, and significantly, Hart h**ed Trump, his politics, and his associates:

Here are some of her Tweets about Trump and those close to Trump



But how did she get on a jury involving Trump's longtime close friend?



How did a federal court judge ever allow a far left wing activist to sit on a case where a close Trump associate faced trial?



(Hart is trying to hide the evidence, for she's started to delete her social media posts.)

Roger Stone was tried in a kangaroo court, one in which the prosecutors, and possibly the judge, colluded to ensure a guilty judgment against him. This is a disgrace and antithetical to everything America stands for.

It's becoming clear that the entire Mueller investigation was corrupt. Mueller knew by the second day that the Trump campaign had not colluded with Russia and that everything in the Steele dossier was bull fecal matter. Instead of announcing that t***h, Mueller's team embarked upon a two-year odyssey of destroying people close to Trump by catching them on process crimes. The message was clear: work with Trump, and not only will you retire from Washington in disgrace, but you will also lose everything: career, money, and even your liberty.

It's well past time to call all of these people — including Mueller himself — to account, not with police action and kangaroo trials, but with justice properly administered and impartially carried out.
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Hahahaha....
The trumpkins aren’t happy with simply bad mouthing the Mueller investigation, now they’re working on pretending it didn’t even happen.

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Feb 13, 2020 12:58:34   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahahaha....
The trumpkins aren’t happy with simply bad mouthing the Mueller investigation, now they’re working on pretending it didn’t even happen.


Are you on drugs?

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Feb 13, 2020 13:35:44   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Noraa wrote:
Are you on drugs?


I think she is!

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Feb 13, 2020 14:17:45   #
buddy42 Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahahaha....
The trumpkins aren’t happy with simply bad mouthing the Mueller investigation, now they’re working on pretending it didn’t even happen.


Did you even read it Anus Mouth?

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Feb 13, 2020 14:47:49   #
kemmer
 
Noraa wrote:
Are you on drugs?

Are you addressing me or Trump?

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