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Feb 13, 2020 12:23:51   #
kemmer
 
[quote=padremike]
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Would you care to offer proof or is a generalized statement sufficient to encase your programmed convictions in cement?

You mean besides Trump and Barr suborning the DOJ to their own purposes?

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Feb 13, 2020 12:49:13   #
America 1
 
kemmer wrote:
You mean besides Trump and Barr suborning the DOJ to their own purposes?


No, that was our past President.
I know it's difficult for you, try to keep up.

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Feb 13, 2020 12:51:01   #
useful mattoid 45
 
padremike wrote:
I know you believe in your wicked little heart that Conservatives are destroying the Constitution and the rule of law because you've heard this constant drumbeat from the very same mob who are destroying our heritage. You're the simple folk who if a lie is repeated frequently enough believe it. Would you care to offer proof or is a generalized statement sufficient to encase your programmed convictions in cement?


Project much?

No, the republicans are disseminating messages to their base undermining our core values.

Erosion of core values is the opposite of the D's message. They hope to restore them.

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Feb 13, 2020 13:11:39   #
kemmer
 
America 1 wrote:

I know it's difficult for you, try to keep up.

You seem to be having a much greater problem with that than I.

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Feb 13, 2020 13:33:04   #
nwtk2007
 
kemmer wrote:
You mean besides Trump and Barr suborning the DOJ to their own purposes?


So why wouldn't Obama let Holder testify or release the requested documents? hmm. Contempt of Congress for Holder.

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Feb 13, 2020 14:52:11   #
kemmer
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
So why wouldn't Obama let Holder testify or release the requested documents? hmm. Contempt of Congress for Holder.

Holder didn’t order the DOJ to protect Obama’s friends. a la Billy Barr.

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Feb 13, 2020 15:02:11   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Project much?

No, the republicans are disseminating messages to their base undermining our core values.

Erosion of core values is the opposite of the D's message. They hope to restore them.


What are your party's core values? I am not being factitious, I truly want to understand your point of view. When I ran an inquiry, I saw a repeat of the following, are these the values you inferred?

Democrats represent the working class over special interests and moneyed elites
Democrats believe health care is an economic and moral right
Democrats believe education, including college, is an economic right
Democrats believe that protecting the environment is essential to our future
Democrats advocate peace over military intervention, always
Democrats protect the civil liberties of all Americans, and especially stand up for the marginalized

If I analyze these, with an open mind, the first value does not seem very "American." Are we not considered "equal" under our Constitution? Did I miss the part that says "Except people who earn or inherit the wealth of a hard-working forefather?" If you took all the money from these people and redistributed to all others, then what separates the USA from Socialist or Communist countries? Are "special" interest groups absent from the Democrat's party?

Education as a right? Tax payers, especially the "elite" mentioned in the first value, fund K1 through grade 12. But if they disappear, who will fund school age children's education? As for college, is the reference to a baccalaureate, master, or PHDs? If you say all, then you are faced with types of degrees, underwater basket weaving or hard science, and at what point will we require individuals to have a degree for flipping burgers? What happens to those individuals who, face it, are not smart enough for college? Do they become the welfare cases of tomorrow...especially if a BA is required for flipping burgers?

Health care has always been provided in the USA. Okay, some "elective" procedures have not been available nation-wide such as liposuction, breast implants (unless you are gender confused and decide to appear as a woman), face lifts and the like, but basic health care has been provided for many years. I do understand the economic argument, but if you do away with the rich, then it become a mute point.

Peace over military? This raises an interesting observation, over our history, can you guess how many Democrat presidents have staved off war? Save you some time, zero. Since 1900, 35 conflicts have been launched by Republican administrations compared to 23 by Democrats, with 10 (out of 12) GOP presidents launching one or more conflicts, compared to 8 (out of 8) Democrats.

Democrats stand up for civil liberties...especially the marginalized. In modern times, especially the last few years, the most marginalized people in the USA are the white older males. That is fact. They are routinely discriminated against in the workforce and are scorned in private. Can we expect the Democrats to hold EO rallies for them, publicly denounce bad treatment, or put them on "preferred" admissions or job placement programs? Can we expect laws to be past to protect their rights?

The only "value" on this list I can get behind is the environment. Absolutely without question.

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Feb 13, 2020 15:06:57   #
useful mattoid 45
 
Pennylynn wrote:
What are your party's core values? I am not being factitious, I truly want to understand your point of view. When I ran an inquiry, I saw a repeat of the following, are these the values you inferred?

Democrats represent the working class over special interests and moneyed elites
Democrats believe health care is an economic and moral right
Democrats believe education, including college, is an economic right
Democrats believe that protecting the environment is essential to our future
Democrats advocate peace over military intervention, always
Democrats protect the civil liberties of all Americans, and especially stand up for the marginalized

If I analyze these, with an open mind, the first value does not seem very "American." Are we not considered "equal" under our Constitution? Did I miss the part that says "Except people who earn or inherit the wealth of a hard-working forefather?" If you took all the money from these people and redistributed to all others, then what separates the USA from Socialist or Communist countries? Are "special" interest groups absent from the Democrat's party?

Education as a right? Tax payers, especially the "elite" mentioned in the first value, fund K1 through grade 12. But if they disappear, who will fund school age children's education? As for college, is the reference to a baccalaureate, master, or PHDs? If you say all, then you are faced with types of degrees, underwater basket weaving or hard science, and at what point will we require individuals to have a degree for flipping burgers? What happens to those individuals who, face it, are not smart enough for college? Do they become the welfare cases of tomorrow...especially if a BA is required for flipping burgers?

Health care has always been provided in the USA. Okay, some "elective" procedures have not been available nation-wide such as liposuction, breast implants (unless you are gender confused and decide to appear as a woman), face lifts and the like, but basic health care has been provided for many years. I do understand the economic argument, but if you do away with the rich, then it become a mute point.

Peace over military? This raises an interesting observation, over our history, can you guess how many Democrat presidents have staved off war? Save you some time, zero. Since 1900, 35 conflicts have been launched by Republican administrations compared to 23 by Democrats, with 10 (out of 12) GOP presidents launching one or more conflicts, compared to 8 (out of 8) Democrats.

Democrats stand up for civil liberties...especially the marginalized. In modern times, especially the last few years, the most marginalized people in the USA are the white older males. That is fact. They are routinely discriminated against in the workforce and are scorned in private. Can we expect the Democrats to hold EO rallies for them, publicly denounce bad treatment, or put them on "preferred" admissions or job placement programs? Can we expect laws to be past to protect their rights?

The only "value" on this list I can get behind is the environment. Absolutely without question.
What are your party's core values? I am not being... (show quote)


Oh, that got a laugh!

Marginalized older white males. Yes, sure, uh-huh

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Feb 13, 2020 15:07:42   #
American Vet
 
Pennylynn wrote:
What are your party's core values? I am not being factitious, I truly want to understand your point of view. When I ran an inquiry, I saw a repeat of the following, are these the values you inferred?

Democrats represent the working class over special interests and moneyed elites
Democrats believe health care is an economic and moral right
Democrats believe education, including college, is an economic right
Democrats believe that protecting the environment is essential to our future
Democrats advocate peace over military intervention, always
Democrats protect the civil liberties of all Americans, and especially stand up for the marginalized

If I analyze these, with an open mind, the first value does not seem very "American." Are we not considered "equal" under our Constitution? Did I miss the part that says "Except people who earn or inherit the wealth of a hard-working forefather?" If you took all the money from these people and redistributed to all others, then what separates the USA from Socialist or Communist countries? Are "special" interest groups absent from the Democrat's party?

Education as a right? Tax payers, especially the "elite" mentioned in the first value, fund K1 through grade 12. But if they disappear, who will fund school age children's education? As for college, is the reference to a baccalaureate, master, or PHDs? If you say all, then you are faced with types of degrees, underwater basket weaving or hard science, and at what point will we require individuals to have a degree for flipping burgers? What happens to those individuals who, face it, are not smart enough for college? Do they become the welfare cases of tomorrow...especially if a BA is required for flipping burgers?

Health care has always been provided in the USA. Okay, some "elective" procedures have not been available nation-wide such as liposuction, breast implants (unless you are gender confused and decide to appear as a woman), face lifts and the like, but basic health care has been provided for many years. I do understand the economic argument, but if you do away with the rich, then it become a mute point.

Peace over military? This raises an interesting observation, over our history, can you guess how many Democrat presidents have staved off war? Save you some time, zero. Since 1900, 35 conflicts have been launched by Republican administrations compared to 23 by Democrats, with 10 (out of 12) GOP presidents launching one or more conflicts, compared to 8 (out of 8) Democrats.

Democrats stand up for civil liberties...especially the marginalized. In modern times, especially the last few years, the most marginalized people in the USA are the white older males. That is fact. They are routinely discriminated against in the workforce and are scorned in private. Can we expect the Democrats to hold EO rallies for them, publicly denounce bad treatment, or put them on "preferred" admissions or job placement programs? Can we expect laws to be past to protect their rights?

The only "value" on this list I can get behind is the environment. Absolutely without question.
What are your party's core values? I am not being... (show quote)


Excellent post! It will be interesting to see if any of the leftist respond.

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Feb 13, 2020 15:10:29   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Oh, that got a laugh!

Marginalized older white males. Yes, sure, uh-huh


Here is the democrats god of demonic child sacrifice, in the spirit of celebrating their core values.



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Feb 13, 2020 15:18:45   #
nwtk2007
 
kemmer wrote:
Holder didn’t order the DOJ to protect Obama’s friends. a la Billy Barr.


DOJ protected Obama and Holder. You should know that.

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Feb 13, 2020 15:27:52   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Oh, that got a laugh!

Marginalized older white males. Yes, sure, uh-huh


Absolutely! predominantly older white men, but men in general they are struggling, many are falling precipitously behind in earning college degrees and other achievements such as earnings for unmarrieds. I watch them leaving their wives and children then violently lashing out, and began to wonder if men need something besides elaborate gender theory or a dismissive long-form hot-take.

Because it is not friendly to them, many men do not like postmodern society. They have been taught they have no innate call to leadership of home and church, and accordingly have lost the script for their lives. They have been encouraged to step back from being a breadwinner, and do not know what they are supposed to do with their lives.

They have been told that they talk too loudly and spread their legs too wide, and thus do not fit in with a feminized society. They may be the product of a divorced home, and may have grown up without an engaged father, so possess both pent-up rage and a disappearing instinct. They did nothing to choose their biological manliness, but are instructed to attend sensitivity training by virtue of it. They recognize that politically correct culture constrains free thought and free speech, and so they opt out from it.

The results are statistics...alcoholism, gender confusion, premature deaths, depression, among other alarming results.

It is time, if you believe the Democrat's core values, for you to signal a change...a call to champion our a cause to raise them to an honored position!

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Feb 13, 2020 15:33:00   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
American Vet wrote:
Excellent post! It will be interesting to see if any of the leftist respond.


I wish someone from their camp will respond.... but wishes are for fools or those who are eternal optimists, a condition my family accuses me of being. I hope, if they do...they keep to facts.

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Feb 13, 2020 16:18:48   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Pennylynn wrote:
What are your party's core values? I am not being factitious, I truly want to understand your point of view. When I ran an inquiry, I saw a repeat of the following, are these the values you inferred?

Democrats represent the working class over special interests and moneyed elites
Democrats believe health care is an economic and moral right
Democrats believe education, including college, is an economic right
Democrats believe that protecting the environment is essential to our future
Democrats advocate peace over military intervention, always
Democrats protect the civil liberties of all Americans, and especially stand up for the marginalized

If I analyze these, with an open mind, the first value does not seem very "American." Are we not considered "equal" under our Constitution? Did I miss the part that says "Except people who earn or inherit the wealth of a hard-working forefather?" If you took all the money from these people and redistributed to all others, then what separates the USA from Socialist or Communist countries? Are "special" interest groups absent from the Democrat's party?

Education as a right? Tax payers, especially the "elite" mentioned in the first value, fund K1 through grade 12. But if they disappear, who will fund school age children's education? As for college, is the reference to a baccalaureate, master, or PHDs? If you say all, then you are faced with types of degrees, underwater basket weaving or hard science, and at what point will we require individuals to have a degree for flipping burgers? What happens to those individuals who, face it, are not smart enough for college? Do they become the welfare cases of tomorrow...especially if a BA is required for flipping burgers?

Health care has always been provided in the USA. Okay, some "elective" procedures have not been available nation-wide such as liposuction, breast implants (unless you are gender confused and decide to appear as a woman), face lifts and the like, but basic health care has been provided for many years. I do understand the economic argument, but if you do away with the rich, then it become a mute point.

Peace over military? This raises an interesting observation, over our history, can you guess how many Democrat presidents have staved off war? Save you some time, zero. Since 1900, 35 conflicts have been launched by Republican administrations compared to 23 by Democrats, with 10 (out of 12) GOP presidents launching one or more conflicts, compared to 8 (out of 8) Democrats.

Democrats stand up for civil liberties...especially the marginalized. In modern times, especially the last few years, the most marginalized people in the USA are the white older males. That is fact. They are routinely discriminated against in the workforce and are scorned in private. Can we expect the Democrats to hold EO rallies for them, publicly denounce bad treatment, or put them on "preferred" admissions or job placement programs? Can we expect laws to be past to protect their rights?

The only "value" on this list I can get behind is the environment. Absolutely without question.
What are your party's core values? I am not being... (show quote)


Excellent and thoughtful presentation, and right on target.

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Feb 13, 2020 16:20:35   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
amadjuster wrote:
Here is the democrats god of demonic child sacrifice, in the spirit of celebrating their core values.


Why does that remind me of Hilary?

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